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[Weiser_Cain]

It's stupid. It's like Muhammad Ali doing footwork every time he signed a contract.

[SSV Enterprise]

Muhammad Ali doesn't have a strict religious code he zealously follows when doing business.

[Epic777]

To to the OP: warp - Rips enemies apart at the molecular level and stops health regeneration

Modifié par Epic777, 21 octobre 2010 - 05:11 .

[Foolsfolly]

@yorkj86: I lol'd!

[Aumata]

Just a side note, but who to say that the Science in Mass Effect hasn't encounter every known thing. Case point being creating a relay station, no one know how to make one. Reave, and dominate would more than likely be a rarity that no one couldn't explain and written off as such. Scientist today still encounter stuff that can't be explained know matter what theory you place it in.

[SSV Enterprise]

What, are justicars not religious? Seems like it to me, right down to how Samara says "Find peace in the embrace of a goddess" before she kills someone.



Anyways, I'd more readily compare the glowing (and kneeling) to how someone lays his or her hand on the Bible (or Koran, or Torah, depending on your religion) before providing witness in the court. Does it cause an physical restriction on the person to prevent the person from lying? No, it's only a tradition, like the justicar oath.

[Evil_Weasel]

Epic777 wrote...

To to the OP: warp - Rips enemies apart at the molecular level and stops health regeneration

????  I dont understant the point to that statment? I am aware of the description for Warp, but thankyou for making sure of that.

Is there some reason you think that warp also is out of line with other biotic powers, because it is totaly reasonable based on the ME1 codex. It is due to a rapidly shifting mass raising / lowering fields shreading the target.

I may need some more context for that post to mean anything......moving on.

[Fortlowe]

Maybe Reave works through the Omni tool.

[AntiChri5]

Cryo blast and Incinerate are explained well.

[Fortlowe]

Neofelis Nebulosa wrote...

Fortlowe wrote...

Maybe Reave works through the Omni tool.

Which would make even less sense. Just like the Cryo-Blast and Incineration Powers that are just as stupid as Reave and Dominate.

Well, if biotics dissentegrated some of the biological mass of an enemy, then the omni tool could, hypothetically at least, retrieve, process, modify, and use that biological material as a medigel approximate for the omni tool's user.

Incinerate and Cryo-Blast are also not unexplainable. The omni tool already has to have the ability to excite(heat) or tranquilize(cool) molecules for its minifacturing processes. Hurling a projectile that broadcasts this effect on contact should also be in the omni tool's capabilities.

Of course Burt Reynolds can Reave, Dominate, Cryo-Blast, and Incinerate without an omni tool....

Modifié par Fortlowe, 22 octobre 2010 - 05:50 .

[curly haired boy]

reave was always used purely for barrier-stripping in my playthroughs. if i've got an enemy down to health, no way i'm wasting a long-cooldown power on them when i can spend 2 seconds throwing out a neural shock, throw, or pull.



as for reave's health-regen aspect, i basically view it as an medigel-sapping deal. i figure everyone's got some in their armor, so reave just steals it while it's doing its other things. it's a warp+neural shock+medigel drain combo.



on charge: it would have been awesome if charge DIDN'T phase through solid objects, but instead punched holes in them (would have required destructible environments, though). can you imagine how awesome fights would be? heavy charge rips up floor tiles and shatters railings as your wreck your way at awesome speeds towards your helpless victim.



but alas, that's not how it works.

[oyukichan]

curly haired boy wrote...

on charge: it would have been awesome if charge DIDN'T phase through solid objects, but instead punched holes in them (would have required destructible environments, though). can you imagine how awesome fights would be? heavy charge rips up floor tiles and shatters railings as your wreck your way at awesome speeds towards your helpless victim.

I, for one, would have loved this!  And in the same vein, Shockwave should destroy items in its path as well.

I love the Vanguard, but destructable environments would have made it much more badass to see!

I also view Reave as something like the medigel-leech or omni-tool repurposing.  I'm sure there are explanations (in game lore) for both Reave and Dominate, so maybe we'll see something more about it some day.  They've explained everything else fairly well, so why not! 

[Zaisha_temp]

curly haired boy wrote...
on charge: it would have been awesome if charge DIDN'T phase through solid objects, but instead punched holes in them (would have required destructible environments, though). can you imagine how awesome fights would be? heavy charge rips up floor tiles and shatters railings as your wreck your way at awesome speeds towards your helpless victim.

but alas, that's not how it works.

They couldn't do that: nobody would play the other classes.

[Terraneaux]

yorkj86 wrote...

"Find peace in the embrace of the goddess" is an expression.  The asari are predominantly pantheists, and Athame-worship (Athame being the "goddess") is a minority religious practice.  Samara herself may be religious, but the Justicar Order is not a religious order.  "The Code does not exist to bring about spiritual enlightenment."  Additionally, as it's an expression, saying that it makes her religious is like saying someone is religious for saying "Bless you" after someone sneezes, or that Tali is necessarily religious for saying "Oh, Keelah". 

Tali doesn't say 'Keelah se'lai' before she kills Geth, though.  I'm fairly certain that the Justicars are a religious order, however.  Failing that, their reverence for the Code before all else is functionally a religious belief.  

Modifié par Terraneaux, 22 octobre 2010 - 01:09 .

[SOG TOUGH]

Can't be unique to Asari because Shepherd can learn them, and they aren't magic because they are enhanced by Biotic upgrades, so they are biotic abilities.

[The Spamming Troll]

my hope for the advancement of biotics in ME3 can only be summed up in exactly one word.....



bioticskullcrush.

[Severyx]

yorkj86 wrote...

SOG TOUGH wrote...

Can't be unique to Asari because Shepherd can learn them, and they aren't magic because they are enhanced by Biotic upgrades, so they are biotic abilities.

Gameplay mechanics ignore lore.  Shepard being able to learn Reave and Dominate means nothing.

This.

It's purely gameplay. Stop trying to tear into something that's not really important. Shepard can't jump in the game, but I don't spend countless hours trying to figure out what world mechanic keeps him from leaving the ground on command.

Now if you tried to explain this in some sort of plot or story, then you'd have an issue. This is why nobody does it.

[JCHorner]

Reave and Dominate go beyond Biotics because Asari go beyond Biotics. They have abilities they haven't made public to the rest of us.



Also, Samara can't come back, just like Wrex can't - because one of Morinth. Wrex will not be part of Shepards squad again, and neither will Samara.