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[Perfect-Kenshin]

I mean, it's their work of art. When someone insults what you put countless hours into completing, it's typical to get very offended. Sometimes, your feelings even get hurt. So when they see a bunch of people saying stuff like "this sucks" , "the game developers were being lazy when they did X", "WoW is way better than this crap", or "I could make a better game than this", does a part of them die on the inside? Or what about the comments made on this board in regards to countless complaints which have already been made about Dragon Age 2?

Modifié par Perfect-Kenshin, 20 octobre 2010 - 04:39 .

[Leonia]

I don't think they'd be in this industry if they had a soft skin, honestly.

Besides, our tears do fuel their coffee pot after all.

Modifié par leonia42, 20 octobre 2010 - 04:40 .

[Rogue Unit]

I'm pretty sure they're used to it be now. I would guess it does get annoying but people have to right to voice their opinions at the same time.

[_-Greywolf-_]

I think they would be hardened to that sort of thing by now however I have seen a few posts by the devs where a poster seems to have struck a nerv.

[Weiser_Cain]

I think of it this way. I'm trying to get them to make a better game. If I get a little harsh I'm sorry but I really want to be able to give them my money.

That and I don't say anything I wouldn't say in person, not that that's any safeguard, I've been banned for things I say in real life all the time, the internet negates my personal charm it seems.

[Merced256]

Certainly appears so given the tone of some replies.

[eucatastrophe]

leonia42 wrote...

I don't think they'd be in this industry if they had a soft skin, honestly.

Besides, our tears do fuel their coffee pot after all.

Pretty much said it all here.

[Thunderfox]

I think they get annoyed at people jumping to conclusions. but Offended? No

[AlexXIV]

Well it is not art. It is business. So they surely welcome customer feedback like every other company, to improve their products. However this feedback should be sort of constructive or at least valid. We have alot of whining and assuming going on here, and that's hardly something Bioware can act on. Especially if people complain about a game they know next to nothing about and have never even played (such as DA2).

[Mike Laidlaw]

"This sucks" is a little annoying, simply because it gives us nothing to go on. "I really didn't like X because I was expecting Y, or thought that it needed Q" is very helpful, since it points out action items.



Personal insults, though? Those niggle. Not like we're going to burst into tears, but I will admit to a few eyerolls whenever anyone musters up the urge to refer to us as stupid / out to [verb] [noun] because we hate game play or implies that we're making choices in the look/design of the game out of some urge to punish the PC/Console/Atari 2600 crowd.

[Bryy_Miller]

Perfect-Kenshin wrote...

I mean, it's their work of art. When someone insults what you put countless hours into completing, it's typical to get very offended.

I don't mean to sound like an **** here, but not really. While things like Comment Fatigue DO occur, it's generally not a productive response to **** and moan about somebody that doesn't like your work, or even get upset. So somebody doesn't like your ****? No big deal. Take whatever criticism that is there which is productive (if any at all), and move forward.

[AlexXIV]

Bryy_Miller wrote...

Perfect-Kenshin wrote...

I mean, it's their work of art. When someone insults what you put countless hours into completing, it's typical to get very offended.

I don't mean to sound like an **** here, but not really. While things like Comment Fatigue DO occur, it's generally not a productive response to **** and moan about somebody that doesn't like your work, or even get upset. So somebody doesn't like your ****? No big deal. Take whatever criticism that is there which is productive (if any at all), and move forward.

Well yes, but usually people who complain are also people who care. Or they could just ignore it. So I think the question is not whether Bioware gets annoyed, but rather how to make a proper complaint. It's almost funny how people seem to think shouting gets them anywhere, especially in the internet. As if people would only disagree because something is wrong with their ears.

[WidowMaker9394]

What's with hate on the Atari 2600 crowd, Mike? Have we not suffered enough?

[Lumikki]

Everyting allways affect someone or something one way or other, it's just question how much. Like in any family if someone is allways negative agaist some family member, it will cause problems in they relationship.

We all know that more constructive feedback is good for developers. How ever, do we all customers understand that all our feedback is also based our own personal taste and way to look situations and it's not allways same view point or taste what other customers have. So, it's up to developers see the all different view points what customers have and how much every taste or view points are supported. Also we customers here in forum are the most active ones, but also minority.

Customers allways become more negative when something goes to direction they don't like. More passion they have to something, more emotional they seem to be.

Modifié par Lumikki, 20 octobre 2010 - 08:20 .

[Lintanis]

Atari 2600 , Bring back memories 

[Ryllen Laerth Kriel]

Pacman = Darkspawn



Stage = Lothering



Little Pellets = Villagers



Ghosts = Hawke and other refugees who can fight back.



Let the battle of Lothering commence!

[upsettingshorts]

Mike Laidlaw wrote...
implies that we're making choices in the look/design of the game out of some urge to punish the PC/Console/Atari 2600 crowd.

After reading about Jesse Houston and Christina Norman's struggles with Gave Dev Story I so wanted to Tweet a joke, "Looks like they need to 'dumb down' Game Dev Story for the game developer crowd." 

But didn't because I figured they'd think I was insulting them and not the people on the forums who break out those same criticisms.  

Modifié par Upsettingshorts, 20 octobre 2010 - 10:15 .

[Legbiter]

Your gripes and petty whining are their chief sustenance. Without it they would quickly wither and go into torpor.

[Maconbar]

Legbiter wrote...

Your gripes and petty whining are their chief sustenance. Without it they would quickly wither and go into torpor.

Whine demons aren't well understood. Its suspicious that we haven't seen lore about them.

[John Epler]

Eh. I worked retail throughout university. I'm used to it - and honestly, most of the people on these forums are quite polite and well-reasoned. Things that annoy me a little? As Mike said, personal insults. And I'll also add the 'I hope BioWare fails because they're not making the game I want them to'!



But generally, I've got a pretty thick skin. Having someone curse at you because they dropped their 2000 dollar television and I won't replace it for free gives you a pretty hefty immunity to being insulted.

[Dave of Canada]

JohnEpler wrote...

But generally, I've got a pretty thick skin. Having someone curse at you because they dropped their 2000 dollar television and I won't replace it for free gives you a pretty hefty immunity to being insulted.

That sounds like an interesting story.

[John Epler]

Dave of Canada wrote...

JohnEpler wrote...

But generally, I've got a pretty thick skin. Having someone curse at you because they dropped their 2000 dollar television and I won't replace it for free gives you a pretty hefty immunity to being insulted.

That sounds like an interesting story.

Oh, I've got four and a half years of selling televisions at a major electronics retailer. The stories abound. Some of them I don't entirely believe, and I was there for them. I've occasionally considered writing a book - between myself and the other people I know who were in a similar situation, I could fill a few hundred pages without issue.

But I digress -  I'm getting off-topic! 

[ErichHartmann]

This forum would be mundane without complaints. It's a laugh riot to see how posters behave.

[Saibh]

Huh. You know, I was expecting a "No, but we do sacrifice panda bear cubs every time someone tells us we should crucify ourselves for adding leaping animations."



But you guys have feeeeeeeelings!

[Lord_Valandil]

Haters gonna hate.