LobselVith8 wrote...
I think the racial discimination would fit better with the treatment of the elves, but that's another discussion for another time. Using the Connor example is exactly why the Chantry's treatment of mages needs to be changed: they condition mages to gather as much power as possible in order to survive against the templars that are sent to hunt them down. If the Chantry didn't imprison people because of their magical ability and spread its view of magic as evil, then Isolde never would have feared for Connor or thought that there was something wrong with him. Nobody is saying mages shouldn't be properly trained; people are arguing against imprisoning them for being mages.
Then don't use racial discrimination as your analogy. If anything, use quarantine.
Making the system nicer (the reforms I suggested: keeping contact, for example) won't negate the need for forced training, and that's as much what Isolde was afraid of as anything else. She was going to loser her child if Connor left. No change on the Chantry's part can reasonably change that Connor would have to be taken along until at least adulthood.
People like Isolde, who love their children so much they don't want to let them go, will always circumvent the rules needed to protect everyone.
And there's also a reason to fear the Chantry as well - ask the Dalish. According to them, the Chantry sent the templars into the Dales because they kicked out their missionaries after refusing to convert to their religion. What happened after the Dales was taken over by Orlais? Their religion was outlawed. Should the lives of mages be placed with an institution that openly condemms them?
The lives of mages should be planned by the insitution that can handle them while mitigating the dangers to the populace. You can want any changes you want and you can wish anything you wish, but the Chantry remains the only non-magical instution to allow the Mages to live with some form of security without losing their tongues.
The Chantry lockup is entirely unnecessary. There are mages in Rivain with leadership positions,
Rivian is small, backwater, far from Ferelden, and culturally different. What goes wrong there doesn't hurt as many people. Their shamanistic policies also including deliberate abomination risks.
Now, if you think that Ferelden's monarchs and populace will stand by and invite the Rivian shamans to take over one of their major institutions...
there were elven mages who were in leadership positions of Arlathan and the Dales (and their descendants are now the Keepers of the nomadic Dalish clans).
We don't know anything about how the elves raise their mages: we have nothing to suggest they aren't also trained in isolation, or pass similar rituals to the Harrowing. Certainly abominations have been a problem with every society.
Father Eirik was a mage and the head of the Haven Chantry, and Kolgrim may be a mage since he knew about the fate of the Urn. There's no reason mages shouldn't be permitted to govern themselves.
...Haven is your idea of an enlightened, safe model for society at large?
It's been nearly a 900 years of the same system and nothing has changed, and nothing ever will unless someone does something to implement that change.
Right. Where have I heard that before...
Ah, yes. The blood mage rebellion. That turned out so well for everyone involved. Social reform, one abominationed-filled circle at a time.