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[Zy-El]

Sylriel wrote...
I do have my opinions of Alistair and they are really not all very pleasant, containing words like whiny, weepy, and spineless.  I will not discuss them here however as this thread is about your wonderful project and not my opinions.  But I will say opinions of him have not been without input from the female persuasion either.

It does surprise me how many people really do like Alistair.  My own female friends who are familiar and have played the game do not hold him in high regard at all.  Their opinion is he is “not man enough”.  Not my words, so please be kind. 

His biggest crime according to my female friends is he doesn’t take the initiative to approach the Female Warden on his own to be friendly or to try and start something.  His bashfulness is cute, but he should have “tried”.  Blame is not really placed on him though, as it is really Bioware’s fault for scripting him this way.  Bioware would have done better if they had given Alistair some self initiated cut scenes upon entering the camp where he is shown trying.

Try romancing Alistair after he's hardened. 

When Alistair gave her the rose, he was quite forward and planted a kiss on my FMage without prompting.  Then backed off and asked "if it was too soon".

Later on, she walked into camp and he ambushed her with sweaty palms and all.  He was definitely hardened in more than one way.  He was at 95+ Approval and we hadn't done the deed yet.  He was more than a little keen to jump her bones.  I almost expected him to say, "GET IN THE TENT, WOMAN!!!"   (ala Male Warden to Morrigan). 
Now that would have been a sharp reversal of roles! 

Modifié par Zy-El, 24 octobre 2010 - 03:12 .

[tuppence95]

 Warning... that update to Dahlia's wedding file was NOT uploaded by her.  Someone else uploaded it.  If you are going to download her mod, make sure her name is there as the uploader and also make sure that the endorsements weren't turned off.

[Costin_Razvan]

Hmm, ignoring the hack ( will be dealt with swift I imagine with all the reports on it ). Then I want to ask if you will use this mod for other characters as well?

[tuppence95]

Whew! They've already taken it down.

[tuppence95]

Costin, there's been talk about it, but I doubt Dahlia will do it.  After she gets rested up, she has the rest of the Alistair epilogue mods to do.

But ... I heard a rumor that maybe KoP might be considering trying to do something.   

[KnightofPhoenix]

It's not even a rumor. It's a rumor of a rumor

[ejoslin]

Zy-El wrote...

Sylriel wrote...
I do have my opinions of Alistair and they are really not all very pleasant, containing words like whiny, weepy, and spineless.  I will not discuss them here however as this thread is about your wonderful project and not my opinions.  But I will say opinions of him have not been without input from the female persuasion either.

It does surprise me how many people really do like Alistair.  My own female friends who are familiar and have played the game do not hold him in high regard at all.  Their opinion is he is “not man enough”.  Not my words, so please be kind. 

His biggest crime according to my female friends is he doesn’t take the initiative to approach the Female Warden on his own to be friendly or to try and start something.  His bashfulness is cute, but he should have “tried”.  Blame is not really placed on him though, as it is really Bioware’s fault for scripting him this way.  Bioware would have done better if they had given Alistair some self initiated cut scenes upon entering the camp where he is shown trying.

Try romancing Alistair after he's hardened. 

When Alistair gave her the rose, he was quite forward and planted a kiss on my FMage without prompting.  Then backed off and asked "if it was too soon".

Later on, she walked into camp and he ambushed her with sweaty palms and all.  He was definitely hardened in more than one way.  He was at 95+ Approval and we hadn't done the deed yet.  He was more than a little keen to jump her bones.  I almost expected him to say, "GET IN THE TENT, WOMAN!!!"   (ala Male Warden to Morrigan). 
Now that would have been a sharp reversal of roles! 

He doesn't have to be hardened.  These things happen if you're patient

[Addai]

tuppence95 wrote...

 Warning... that update to Dahlia's wedding file was NOT uploaded by her.  Someone else uploaded it.  If you are going to download her mod, make sure her name is there as the uploader and also make sure that the endorsements weren't turned off.

*madface*  That's terrible.  Stupid people are stupid and need to get a life.

[Costin_Razvan]

Addai: Welcome to the internetz! We have lolcats, 4chan and cookies.

And yes, it was intended from me to say that. Some people hate the internet, and some governments ban parts of it, I can't blame em at all and I feel they are fully justified. People on the web made two girls and one cup after all. "shivers" ( and please don't ask me what that is if you don't know, because trust me you WANT to remain ignorant ).

Modifié par Costin_Razvan, 24 octobre 2010 - 10:27 .

[sylvanaerie]

ejoslin wrote...

Zy-El wrote...

Sylriel wrote...
I do have my opinions of Alistair and they are really not all very pleasant, containing words like whiny, weepy, and spineless.  I will not discuss them here however as this thread is about your wonderful project and not my opinions.  But I will say opinions of him have not been without input from the female persuasion either.

It does surprise me how many people really do like Alistair.  My own female friends who are familiar and have played the game do not hold him in high regard at all.  Their opinion is he is “not man enough”.  Not my words, so please be kind. 

His biggest crime according to my female friends is he doesn’t take the initiative to approach the Female Warden on his own to be friendly or to try and start something.  His bashfulness is cute, but he should have “tried”.  Blame is not really placed on him though, as it is really Bioware’s fault for scripting him this way.  Bioware would have done better if they had given Alistair some self initiated cut scenes upon entering the camp where he is shown trying.

Try romancing Alistair after he's hardened. 

When Alistair gave her the rose, he was quite forward and planted a kiss on my FMage without prompting.  Then backed off and asked "if it was too soon".

Later on, she walked into camp and he ambushed her with sweaty palms and all.  He was definitely hardened in more than one way.  He was at 95+ Approval and we hadn't done the deed yet.  He was more than a little keen to jump her bones.  I almost expected him to say, "GET IN THE TENT, WOMAN!!!"   (ala Male Warden to Morrigan). 
Now that would have been a sharp reversal of roles! 

He doesn't have to be hardened.  These things happen if you're patient

hehe I would say SOME parts of him have to be hardened for the second cutscene

[Yankee23]

A wedding pic so the thread doesn't go to page two.

[Dawnielle]

this is the lovliest thing!

You are amazing,

and to be honest, you shouldnt have had to do this! Bioware should have.

This would have been a nice ending to the female warden, but we never really got an ending.

Thanks so very much! I love it! I play only on PS3, but I Imagine theres alot that can be done on the PC.

Thanks again, thanks so much.

[DahliaLynn]

You're welcome very very happy you enjoy the mod!

[SupidSeep]

*sniff* *sniff*
(hugs personal Ser Pounce-a-Lot to cry into its fur)

Oh, yes, not really a bug, just that my HNF DW rogue re-equipped weapons and activated Momentum before the cutscene ... so the cutscene plays out with Momentum's visual effect ("vapor trail") in effect ...

(runs after Ser Pounce-a-Lot to cry some more)

[Wedger]

Beautiful mod. I looooved the tear in Fergus' eye. And the proud look on Eamon's face. And dog, and oh I could go on and on. I keep replaying it! Thank you

Modifié par Wedger, 29 octobre 2010 - 04:27 .

[Axekix]

DahliaLynn wrote...

I'm pleased to present you with the product of many months of hard work.

I've produced this scene because I felt it was truly missing from the end-game when Female HNF PC marries Alistair.
I had hoped to be given a nice closing scene to an incredible game, and although it is true that it is impossible to create a scene for every possible ending, I tried to make at least one contribution with regards to the Alistair Romance. I hope to continue with the rest of the scenes planned for this mod.

I hope you enjoy!
   

Alistair's Royal Wedding

You tube video may be viewed here

Wow this mod is incredible.  I mean really, really  well done.  I could easily believe it was an official cutscene in the game (tbh it looks better than most of the official ones imo).  I can't even imagine how long it took to do this all on your own.

You've set the bar pretty high Dahlia! I don't even have a fem cousland game though, so I just have the yt video to go by

Modifié par Axekix, 29 octobre 2010 - 10:57 .

[DahliaLynn]

Thanks Axekix!

Many thanks  to Sunjammer for helping me with scripts and integration, along with my QA team for their awesome devotion.

BTW, there is a vanilla Cousland save-game on my Bioware download site, in case you just want to see what it looks like in-game
Thanks again!

Modifié par DahliaLynn, 31 octobre 2010 - 11:34 .

[Rykoth]

There needs to be a version for male Warden + Anora, Warden + Leliana as well.

[Addai]

Rykoth wrote...

There needs to be a version for male Warden + Anora, Warden + Leliana as well.

Erm, I'm assuming that you're saying this as a "I wish there were..." rather than as a demand?  Assuming that, fire up the toolset and get on it!

[Liliandra Nadiar]

Well, For Anora it would mostly just be a matter of switching Fergus for Loghain. Of course, I barely know how to work the toolset as is so I'm just going to quietly pine away over here and play my female noble.

[DahliaLynn]

Liliandra Nadiar wrote...

Well, For Anora it would mostly just be a matter of switching Fergus for Loghain. Of course, I barely know how to work the toolset as is so I'm just going to quietly pine away over here and play my female noble.

You forget the fact that they look at each other lovingly when walking up the Aisle, not to mention the entire romantic atmosphere, the loving looks vetween Alistair and PC. I don't believe such a romantic style relationship exists between Anora and Male Cousland. Anora/Male Cousland would be a political wedding if anything, and this scene doesn't fit the political atmosphere in my opinion. It would look rather odd in fact.

Modifié par DahliaLynn, 06 novembre 2010 - 01:32 .

[Zjarcal]

DahliaLynn wrote...

Liliandra Nadiar wrote...

Well, For Anora it would mostly just be a matter of switching Fergus for Loghain. Of course, I barely know how to work the toolset as is so I'm just going to quietly pine away over here and play my female noble.

You forget the fact that they look at each other lovingly when walking up the Aisle, not to mention the entire romantic atmosphere, the loving looks vetween Alistair and PC. I don't believe such a romantic style relationship exists between Anora and Male Cousland. Anora/Male Cousland would be a political wedding if anything, and this scene doesn't fit the political atmosphere in my opinion. It would look rather odd in fact.

I agree.

While there's a chance the relationship between a HNM and Anora could eventually reach love, it certainly isn't the case at the start. I don't think Anora would act like the HNF in this scene if it were her wedding with the HNM.

[KnightofPhoenix]

DahliaLynn wrote...
You forget the fact that they look at each other lovingly when walking up the Aisle, not to mention the entire romantic atmosphere, the loving looks vetween Alistair and PC. I don't believe such a romantic style relationship exists between Anora and Male Cousland. Anora/Male Cousland would be a political wedding if anything, and this scene doesn't fit the political atmosphere in my opinion. It would look rather odd in fact.

I concur.
The only hints of Anora / Cousland rapprochement is at the Awakening epilogue, which is after the wedding.
The ambience of the mod is too romantic to fit a political wedding (though Couslands can marry Alistair for purely political reasons, but we can't expect a mod for every possibility )

[KnightofPhoenix]

Zjarcal wrote...
While there's a chance the relationship between a HNM and Anora could eventually reach love, it certainly isn't the case at the start. I don't think Anora would act like the HNF in this scene if it were her wedding with the HNM.

Tbh, I have a hard time picturing Anora walking up the alley. I think her perfect wedding is her sitting on the throne and have the Cousland walk up the alley and be knighted and wed at the same time lol

It's actually pretty symbolic.

[tuppence95]

KnightofPhoenix wrote...

DahliaLynn wrote...
You forget the fact that they look at each other lovingly when walking up the Aisle, not to mention the entire romantic atmosphere, the loving looks vetween Alistair and PC. I don't believe such a romantic style relationship exists between Anora and Male Cousland. Anora/Male Cousland would be a political wedding if anything, and this scene doesn't fit the political atmosphere in my opinion. It would look rather odd in fact.

I concur.
The only hints of Anora / Cousland rapprochement is at the Awakening epilogue, which is after the wedding.
The ambience of the mod is too romantic to fit a political wedding (though Couslands can marry Alistair for purely political reasons, but we can't expect a mod for every possibility )

I tested the wedding mod with a HNF/Alistair political marriage, and the wedding mod did not trigger.  Unless something has changed since the release, political marriages do not get the romantic wedding.