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How many protons, neutrons, and electrons does element zero have?


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I would guess there would be zero but how does that work? Is there a theory behind this "new element" or does it just sound cool? I'm curious to see how much thought was out into the basis of mass effect

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*cough*plot device*cough*it's all krogan nuts*cough*

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Element Zero has 666 Neutros 666 Protons and 666 Badass Electrons.



I know it looks impossible but the element that give you Jedi powers cant be less badass than that!!! o_O

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Hidrogen has 1 proton, therfore, it is number 1 in periodic element table. EEZO should have 0 protons in it's core, but it can still have neutrons, don't know how many though.

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Who said it is named Eezo because it has less matter than Hydrogen?

There are probably thousands of elements out there that could have strange effects and yet weight as much as lead.

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Its atomic weight is plot. Why not ask after the mechanical advantage offered by biotic powers so you can determine Alenko's extra caloric needs over the course of ME1? It's completely irrelevant.

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CottonBALL wrote...

Hidrogen has 1 proton, therfore, it is number 1 in periodic element table. EEZO should have 0 protons in it's core, but it can still have neutrons, don't know how many though.


Ok, THAT is impossible in the physical universe we inhabit- №ofProts=№ofNeuts

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desonnac00 wrote...

CottonBALL wrote...

Hidrogen has 1 proton, therfore, it is number 1 in periodic element table. EEZO should have 0 protons in it's core, but it can still have neutrons, don't know how many though.


Ok, THAT is impossible in the physical universe we inhabit- №ofProts=№ofNeuts

Just what is going on around here?

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Christmas Ape wrote...

Its atomic weight is plot. Why not ask after the mechanical advantage offered by biotic powers so you can determine Alenko's extra caloric needs over the course of ME1? It's completely irrelevant.


You know the funny thing?  There's an entry in the ME1 codex that tells you just that.

I remember back when I was playing the game I did some quick mental calculation to see how many cars my Shepard could biotically throw in a day, using that information.  Forgot what the answer was, though.

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Oblarg wrote...

Christmas Ape wrote...
Its atomic weight is plot. Why not ask after the mechanical advantage offered by biotic powers so you can determine Alenko's extra caloric needs over the course of ME1? It's completely irrelevant.

You know the funny thing?  There's an entry in the ME1 codex that tells you just that.

As someone who read the ME1 Codex rather obsessively, I highly doubt that. It mentions an increased need for caloric intake and some small static discharges, but no figures are given.

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desonnac00 wrote...

CottonBALL wrote...

Hidrogen has 1 proton, therfore, it is number 1 in periodic element table. EEZO should have 0 protons in it's core, but it can still have neutrons, don't know how many though.


Ok, THAT is impossible in the physical universe we inhabit- №ofProts=№ofNeuts

It's not impossible in the Mass Effect universe. In MEU, the speed of light is not the highest there is, even though photons have no mass. Eezo has 0 protons, and should have a special position in the element table. I believe that it would be in the top middle, seperated by the rest of the elements.

Modifié par Phaedon, 22 octobre 2010 - 05:28 .


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desonnac00 wrote...



CottonBALL wrote...



Hidrogen has 1 proton, therfore, it is number 1 in periodic element table. EEZO should have 0 protons in it's core, but it can still have neutrons, don't know how many though.




Ok, THAT is impossible in the physical universe we inhabit- №ofProts=№ofNeuts




That is wrong. Usually for any given number of protons there are various numbers of neutrons capable of building a stable nucleus. That is how the various isotopes of some elements can exist. The number of protons determines the element, the number of neutrons the isotope. for example hydrogen has 1p 0n; deuterium has 1p 1n and tritium has 1p2n but is unstable and radioactive all three are isotopes of hydrogen.

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Christmas Ape wrote...
As someone who read the ME1 Codex rather obsessively, I highly doubt that. It mentions an increased need for caloric intake and some small static discharges, but no figures are given.

4500 calories a day. Biotics: Life as a Biotic

Modifié par Pacifien, 22 octobre 2010 - 05:36 .


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That is wrong. Usually for any given number of protons there are various numbers of neutrons capable of building a stable nucleus. That is how the various isotopes of some elements can exist. The number of protons determines the element, the number of neutrons the isotope. for example hydrogen has 1p 0n; deuterium has 1p 1n and tritium has 1p2n but is unstable and radioactive all three are isotopes of hydrogen.


Yup, forgot to mention isotopes as well. Hell, deuterium was 'created' before even helium.

But anyway, things on the Mass Effect Universe are different. Before you start complaining about 'plot devices', consider that they may (theoretically ofcourse) be true, or not far from the truth. We can never be 100% of something in science. (http://en.wikipedia....ertainty_theory)

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Pacifien wrote...

Christmas Ape wrote...
As someone who read the ME1 Codex rather obsessively, I highly doubt that. It mentions an increased need for caloric intake and some small static discharges, but no figures are given.

4500 calories a day. Biotics: Life as a Biotic

Alliance military standard field ration values do not a weight-manipulated-to-calories-burned calculation make. I stand correct, though I will admit a figure of limited value is given.
That's what I get for not giving a damn about Alenko, I guess.

Modifié par Christmas Ape, 22 octobre 2010 - 05:54 .


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Neutronium does not sound as cool as Element Zero or Eezo.



http://en.wikipedia....wiki/Neutronium

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Praetor Shepard wrote...

Neutronium does not sound as cool as Element Zero or Eezo.

http://en.wikipedia....wiki/Neutronium

Well, I imagine that a lot of human scientific terms would have to change to fit with alien scientific theories. For example, the Hawking radiation might be called Ethyta's Law of Tiny Black Hole Radiation or general relativity could be called general relative field or whatever.

Some scientific terms are also just put there as 'flags'. For example, when new elements are discovered, they get a new name.

Modifié par Phaedon, 22 octobre 2010 - 09:45 .


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Alenko should try British Army 24 hour ration packs (4000 calories) supplemented with a few Mars bars...:lol:

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What happened to this forum?

Opening threads about plot device speculations.... What's next? A thread titled: "EA tech support hangs up when I call and ask to speak with Tali, Why?"

That's what happens when you go 2 months without a new DLC announcement I guess... :D



Jonesey2k wrote...

Alenko should try British Army 24 hour ration packs (4000 calories) supplemented with a few Mars bars...:lol:



That's all it is really, when compared to the standard GI, they get the same "perks" as a modern-day spec ops units would.

But of course, Eezo is sci-fi for magic fairy dust, so anything possible "in-game".

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Thanks for the mostly cool replies. The zero proton idea makes sense in this context

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Wasn't the idea of element zero based off of dark matter and dark energy?



If so, I would say it was composed of entirely different elementary particles (ie no protons, neutrons, or electrons)

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Turian Antiquarian wrote...

What happened to this forum?

Opening threads about plot device speculations.... What's next? A thread titled: "EA tech support hangs up when I call and ask to speak with Tali, Why?"

That's what happens when you go 2 months without a new DLC announcement I guess... ../../../../images/forum/emoticons/grin.png


We're gonna party like it's 2008!... :wizard:

Well, back then the forums were ruled by people obsessing over how indoctrination worked and how husks are formed/built. It's more interesting than coming back to the forums every week and seeing a new Legion=Awesomesauce thread or pages of Tali Love.

Modifié par Mr. MannlyMan, 23 octobre 2010 - 06:16 .


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I was thinking about how ezo is used to make ships travel at FTL speeds and it got me thinking. The only thing I can think of is that Tachyons travel faster then the speed of light and have imaginary mass so maybe when a certain charge is passed through ezo it produces Tachyons which the ship somehow uses to achieve FTL Speeds. And Since Tachyons cant go slower then the speed of light when you want to drop out of FTL you turn off the charge which stops it from producing Tachyons thereby slowing you to normal speeds. Just a thought before I go to bed could use some more work. May also account for the mass manipulation of objects in a mass effect field.

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Turian Antiquarian wrote...

What's next? A thread titled: "EA tech support hangs up when I call and ask to speak with Tali, Why?"

:D



(the obvious answer would be: "Try 780-430-0164 instead.")