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How many protons, neutrons, and electrons does element zero have?


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element zero would have no protons or electrons. if you find really old periodic tables it is actually on there. here is a link about the proposed substance.



http://en.wikipedia....wiki/Neutronium

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And, the simplest option, literally bending two points of space-time to reduce the distance between or entirely eliminate the distance between two points.


put it this way... time doesn't exist... unless there's substantial presence of matter/mass... like a star... a star has the ability of creating time since it has a massive gravity output... or any other thing of gravity.... gravity (huge amounts of QUARKS )creates time (which is space being bent thus animating it)... 

so when ever something's moving... it's likely animating it's own time via it's own g-force... so the more g-force it can produce, the faster it can go through the inanimate space of nothingness... like warp speed... sailing through space created time via gravitywaves... 

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cipher13 wrote...

element zero would have no protons or electrons. if you find really old periodic tables it is actually on there. here is a link about the proposed substance.

http://en.wikipedia....wiki/Neutronium

there's no charge... it'd be a powerless element/material if that was the case... unless it's element that adapts and aborbs the charge of element elements... the idea of a neutronium element sounds like it'd be ideal for insulation, or absorbing excess/dangerous levels charges via neutrons, or wanting to isolate specific levels of charges via the application of neutrons.

that's like saying in order to make a battery i need alot of pulverized rubber instead of lithium ion / NiCD which likely use alot of electrons/protons for energy...

Modifié par FuturePasTimeCE, 24 octobre 2010 - 08:31 .


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FuturePasTimeCE wrote...

WuWeiWu wrote...

And, the simplest option, literally bending two points of space-time to reduce the distance between or entirely eliminate the distance between two points.


put it this way... time doesn't exist... unless there's substantial presence of matter/mass... like a star... a star has the ability of creating time since it has a massive gravity output... or any other thing of gravity.... gravity (huge amounts of QUARKS )creates time (which is space being bent thus animating it)... 

so when ever something's moving... it's likely animating it's own time via it's own g-force... so the more g-force it can produce, the faster it can go through the inanimate space of nothingness... like warp speed... sailing through space created time via gravitywaves... 



More that mass has an intrinsic effect on the relative value of time. When I say that our understanding of time is rudimentary, I'm not over-exaggerating. And, again, you are taking things way past my point - I also mispoke, earlier.

When I said that 'bending' the fabric of space-time to make two distant points not-so-distant was the simplest option, I meant that it was the most simplistic. Actually doing so would take something that we don't yet have - something with more mass than a planet, but less mass than a black hole. A Mass Relay, used to add mass (and thus density) to an object, could potentially provide such a solution.

Time isn't directly related to an objects gravity, but were an organic life form to experience the effects of a black hole first hand, that organic life form would PROBABLY never reach the singularity - as the life form approached the singularity (assuming it wasn't torn apart, of course), time would approach infinity. It is theorized that units of time would cease to have meaning the closer one got to the singularity of a black hole.

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FuturePasTimeCE wrote...
no, electrons are the exact opposites of protons (electrons = negatively charged... proton = positively charged... neutrons = neutral charge)... dude this is basic high school chemistry or 4th grade science.

"what is a atom, class?", 2nd Grade

anti-proton = not a "regular" proton (minus the weight), and isn't a electron either...

"remember kids... ATOMS are not science fiction. In fact, you're made of ATOMS too.", 2nd Grade class Part 2

No, electrons and protons aren't the exact opposite, it's just that the electrons have the exact opposite electric charge. It's different. Anti-protons are different particles, the exact opposite of the protons. That's why when protons and anti-protons collide, they annihilate each other. And no, that's certainly not 2nd Grade Physics. :happy:

http://en.wikipedia....wiki/Antiproton

Modifié par Phaedon, 24 octobre 2010 - 09:20 .


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FuturePasTimeCE wrote...

WuWeiWu wrote...

Mass Relays: Bending the fabric of space until two distant points aren't so distant.

it's caled a einstein rossen bridge... it literally punches a hole in space time thus entering other branes of dimensions (entering a state of pure universal energy)... 

let's call our human reality, relativity... it's what our human senses perceive as immediate reality... the universe's overall reality is beyond that... that's like how we can only see light on the EM spectrum, yet can't see xrays/gamma rays... it's beyond our human senses to perceive those invisible powerful spectrums as reality... we can't even hear sub-sonic sounds of the EM spectrum, yet we're human... we "know" reality better than reality itself.

but by entering a wormhole/einstein-rossen bridge, you're reaching even more exotic nature of the super-complexed universe... a wormhole is like the universe's tunnel or subway ride to get from point a to point b in record magnetic time.

factors for faster than light travel: space-time, matter, gravity, magnetism, sub-atomic particles/antimatter, etc

things to check out to get a idea of the possibility of futuristic space travel:

string theory
m-theory
Einstein's theory of relativity aka E=MC2
Einstein-Rossen bridge aka Wormhole (two blackhole jointed to create a super gravity tunnel, shortcut aka FTL travel aka Hyperspace)
Einstein's theory of Space-Time, Matter+Gravity
hesseinberg's particle uncertainy theory
lightspeed/speed of light
Anti-matter
Stephen Hawkins
Nova/PBS
Discovery Science Channel
History Channel
School science books
observation of modern day aviation
observation of modern day railways/subways (think of a subway tunnel as being hyperspace, and the tracks being the gravitational acceleration/relay to carry that train from one area to another... think of the train as to being a starship, on wheels.)

if you want a idea of how energy force/kinetic fields work just imagine how the o-zone layer works/or the earth's magnetic field... magnetism = wondrous.


I thought that mass relays didn't fold space ?

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Phaedon wrote...

FuturePasTimeCE wrote...

WuWeiWu wrote...

Mass Relays: Bending the fabric of space until two distant points aren't so distant.

it's caled a einstein rossen bridge... it literally punches a hole in space time thus entering other branes of dimensions (entering a state of pure universal energy)... 

let's call our human reality, relativity... it's what our human senses perceive as immediate reality... the universe's overall reality is beyond that... that's like how we can only see light on the EM spectrum, yet can't see xrays/gamma rays... it's beyond our human senses to perceive those invisible powerful spectrums as reality... we can't even hear sub-sonic sounds of the EM spectrum, yet we're human... we "know" reality better than reality itself.

but by entering a wormhole/einstein-rossen bridge, you're reaching even more exotic nature of the super-complexed universe... a wormhole is like the universe's tunnel or subway ride to get from point a to point b in record magnetic time.

factors for faster than light travel: space-time, matter, gravity, magnetism, sub-atomic particles/antimatter, etc

things to check out to get a idea of the possibility of futuristic space travel:

string theory
m-theory
Einstein's theory of relativity aka E=MC2
Einstein-Rossen bridge aka Wormhole (two blackhole jointed to create a super gravity tunnel, shortcut aka FTL travel aka Hyperspace)
Einstein's theory of Space-Time, Matter+Gravity
hesseinberg's particle uncertainy theory
lightspeed/speed of light
Anti-matter
Stephen Hawkins
Nova/PBS
Discovery Science Channel
History Channel
School science books
observation of modern day aviation
observation of modern day railways/subways (think of a subway tunnel as being hyperspace, and the tracks being the gravitational acceleration/relay to carry that train from one area to another... think of the train as to being a starship, on wheels.)

if you want a idea of how energy force/kinetic fields work just imagine how the o-zone layer works/or the earth's magnetic field... magnetism = wondrous.


I thought that mass relays didn't fold space ?

dude, gravity folds space... space is probably weird... like a piece of paper weird... you can fold paper, ball it up, cut through it, to get to the other side of paper, you can square paper... i don't know... that kind of falls within einstein's idea too. a paper being folded/shaped/balled or the very event of paper being balled = the idea of time occurring... the paper's in motion then... where as things that are drawn on it come to life i guess... paper = space, force/balling it/etc = time... like the sun, say if the sun was a giant hand just balling the fabrics of paper-time... as the moments pass of balling the fabrics it's product of the event is called time... time is a product of quantum mechanics. the sun is like a tree of time, time is gravity's exhaustion, where as oxygen is a tree's waste product/exhaustion.

but in the future... they probably have tons of different ways of traveling throughout space... space folding/warp, wormholes/hyperspace, light-sailing, combustion-able engine... who knows... 

it's like choosing to travel by horse, using a chariot, car, hybrid car, electric car, or a magnetic flying car... taking a bus or plane... different options for traveling... i'm sure the future has plenty of them.

you probably have different layers of space/sub-space as to how you can have different layers of paper... m-branes should like the idea of a huge cosmic desk or file cabinet... that hold the papers of space.

Brian Greene explains this concept perfectly, or Michio Kaku... Brian Cox... alot of scientific people have a good grasp on Einstein's string theory approach... even hawkins.

Modifié par FuturePasTimeCE, 24 octobre 2010 - 02:07 .


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I am aware that gravity folds space (relativity ftw), but I think that mass relays just "shoot" ships with a great speed (oh god, I don't want to know what acceleration would do to the people in the ship).

Btw, the string theory is still just a theory, aren't they running some experiments right now in FermiLab ?

Modifié par Phaedon, 24 octobre 2010 - 02:27 .


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Phaedon wrote...

I am aware that gravity folds space (relativity ftw), but I think that mass relays just "shoot" ships with a great speed (oh god, I don't want to know what acceleration would do to the people in the ship).

Btw, the string theory is still just a theory, aren't they running some experiments right now in FermiLab ?

maybe the idea of space being like a piece of paper, is like the super magnetic mass relays being the quantum cosmic scissors that cut shortcuts within space-time, as to how we cut holes in paper/fabrics via scissors.

Modifié par FuturePasTimeCE, 24 octobre 2010 - 02:30 .


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You mean like this ?

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Well since dark energy is supposed to fold space in order to 'change' the mass of an object, I guess that it's possible.

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Phaedon wrote...

You mean like this ?
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Well since dark energy is supposed to fold space in order to 'change' the mass of an object, I guess that it's possible.

 that's a mapping of string theory... i think string theory is the subatomic notion of sub-atomic particles' sub-particle basis... there's a atom, then sub-atoms (neutron, proton, electron, graviton/nucleus), then there's quarks, barbyrons, etc... then to the smallest levels being the strings or something... i think that's what string theory mainly about... the basis of basic makings of a atom's inner atoms... 

i'm not a expert on this sort of stuff... :huh:so i could be wrong... it's just my personal perception and or idea of how i think of this type of stuff.

Modifié par FuturePasTimeCE, 24 octobre 2010 - 02:37 .


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Yeah, I think that the strings have the smallest possible length, the Planck if I remember correctly. What Pretor suggested (Dark Fluid) makes sense for vessels, I still don't know about mass relays though.

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Phaedon wrote...

Yeah, I think that the strings have the smallest possible length, the Planck if I remember correctly. What Pretor suggested (Dark Fluid) makes sense for vessels, I still don't know about mass relays though.

what's that? :huh:you totally grabbed my interest with this dark fluid talk... what's a planck in science speak?

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I am no expert, but from what I remember, in case the universe is 'holographic' (string theory), then the planck constant applies and there are units for some stuff. I believe that these are the lowest possible values these units can take (other than zero or negative numbers I guess). The planck length, according to wikipedia is equal to:
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For Dark Fluid, check Pretor's post, this was the first time I heard this term.

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A single neutron is all that is in the core.

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tnfstc wrote...

A single neutron is all that is in the core.

i'd say there's a whole lot of protons+antiprotons, clinging on to ONE neutron.

Modifié par FuturePasTimeCE, 24 octobre 2010 - 08:09 .


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Actually



Neutronium is a proposed name for a substance composed purely out of neutrons. The word was coined by scientist Andreas von Antropoff in 1926 (before the discovery of the neutron itself) for the conjectured "element of atomic number zero" that he placed at the head of the periodic table.[1][2] However, the meaning of the term has changed over time, and from the last half of the 20th century onward it has been used legitimately to refer to extremely dense phases of matter resembling the neutron-degenerate matter postulated to exist in the cores of neutron stars. Science fiction and popular literature frequently use the term "neutronium" to refer to a highly dense phase of matter composed primarily of neutrons.



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I'm going with the neutron-dense option,



neutrons do have a distribution of positive and negative charges within them, and if huge amounts of energy (beyond what can be generated today) is applied one could adjust the charge of a neutron.



Eezo is stated to either increase or decrease mass when exposed to a positive or negative electrical current, it is not stated however, what magnitude of current is needed to achieve this change.



Assuming that the power requirement to adjust mass in eezo is high, when electrical current of sufficient magnitude is run through the material, the balance of charges in the element's neutrons changes to be more positive or negative. Depending on how much current goes through, this change in charges could make the eezo become more or less attractive to subatomic particles in surrounding atoms.


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Dr. Doctor wrote...

I'm going with the neutron-dense option,

neutrons do have a distribution of positive and negative charges within them, and if huge amounts of energy (beyond what can be generated today) is applied one could adjust the charge of a neutron.

Eezo is stated to either increase or decrease mass when exposed to a positive or negative electrical current, it is not stated however, what magnitude of current is needed to achieve this change.

Assuming that the power requirement to adjust mass in eezo is high, when electrical current of sufficient magnitude is run through the material, the balance of charges in the element's neutrons changes to be more positive or negative. Depending on how much current goes through, this change in charges could make the eezo become more or less attractive to subatomic particles in surrounding atoms.

hopefully the mass effect 3 codex explains this.

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FuturePasTimeCE wrote...

Dr. Doctor wrote...
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hopefully the mass effect 3 codex explains this.


LOL Good luck with that

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It's all about the Higgs bosons.....

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MajFauxPas wrote...

It's all about the Higgs bosons.....

all i know is anti-matter is a important factor... which ever way it's produced...

protons, or neutrons.

Modifié par FuturePasTimeCE, 25 octobre 2010 - 01:33 .


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Can someone explain Higgs bosons to me ? What wikipedia says makes no sense.

Bosons create fields that give mass to any object within them ?

Modifié par Phaedon, 25 octobre 2010 - 04:25 .


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Phaedon wrote...

Can someone explain Higgs bosons to me ? What wikipedia says makes no sense.

Bosons create fields that give mass to any object within them ?

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what's the difference between hyperspace and wormholes?

warp speed = gravity waves...

how come they don't have hyperspace in mass effect?

Modifié par FuturePasTimeCE, 25 octobre 2010 - 04:58 .


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Phaedon wrote...

Can someone explain Higgs bosons to me ? What wikipedia says makes no sense.

Bosons create fields that give mass to any object within them ?


Higgs bosons seem to be particles used as a part of the standard model of particle physics that help explain how other particles interact with each other through three known forces: strong, weak and electromagnetic interactions, but there is no known way to measure them or prove they exist.

Also relating to mass effect FTL travel and travel using mass relays, it seems that the alcubierre drive or metric can help explain how something can move at such speeds as described in the in-game codex, warping space-time in the process.

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also it is possible that the mass relay could also create a traversable wormhole where again higgs bosons seem to be the key... with the goal of this research being to reach a theory of everything

edit: fixing grammar and adding links:)

Modifié par Praetor Shepard, 25 octobre 2010 - 05:17 .