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[HopHazzard]

As I play DA2, trying out the different classes I'm finding the main draw of act 1 for me is my relationship with Carver. I'm having some difficulty motivating myself to finish the warrior I started.

[HopHazzard]

leggywillow wrote...

Chignon wrote...
I can't count the times I got an annoyed "Not now, sister!", "It's a bloody templar, not now!" or, alternatively, "It's the blasted Knight Captain! Don't!"

Those are my favorite lines.  Carver just sounds so frustrated.  This one was my favorite:

Hawke: Something something mages are awesome
Cullen: Why would you say that?
Carver: Yes, why would you say that to the templar right in front of you?!

He seems to be in disbelief that his sibling is apparently the dumbest person in Thedas. XD

I know I'm responding to a three day old post, but I just have to say Carver's frustration over my inability to stay way from/keep my mouth shut around templars was a frequent source of amusement to me. I also found it rather heart warming. He's so surly and argumentative most of the time I was always like, "Aww. You really do care!" when he would do that.

Modifié par HopHazzard, 25 mars 2011 - 05:27 .

[Rheia]

I agree I adore Carver. It's odd... I didn't think I'd like him so much. Figured I'd like Bethany more. But... I like Bethany just fine, she's a fine sister, good character, but somehow she just doesn't have same impact on my Hawke that Carver does.

Case in point, I was sad on a playthrough when I took Bethany without Anders to the deep roads. But with Carver... his goodbye to mother, and consequent scene when he gets sick and Hawke forced to kill him...

"...you always have asked for the world.."
"...and you always gave it."

Really broke my heart, that.

[WhisperingCity]

Chignon wrote...
Edit

If you've never tried Awakening, you can get this quest if you chose the pre-made import "The Martyr."

Ugh. My first play through used my own martyr import, which is the one where Carver ended up a templar. My second play through, where he's become a warden, has used a different import and I'm too far along to go back now. Crap luck. I may have to let it slide for a while. At this rate, I'll never get around to finishing my archer. 

HopHazzard wrote...
I know I'm responding to a three day old post, but I just have to say Carver's frustration over my inability to stay way from/keep my mouth shut around templars was a frequent source of amusement to me. I also found it rather heart warming. He's so surly and argumentative most of the time I was always like, "Aww. You really do care!" when he would do that.

A frequent source of amusement for me was listening to him get hit on by some random woman on the docks. It was so wonderfully awkward. Well, she was either hitting on him or day dreaming about what he would look like drowning, heh. And I agree with whoever it was that said the letter from Peaches, when playing a FemHawke, was a missed opportunity. I would've loved to wave it at him and crow "hello, Mr. Bravest Man I've Ever Known!" Rivalry +10

Rheia wrote...
Case in point, I was sad on a playthrough when I took Bethany without Anders to the deep roads. But with Carver... his goodbye to mother, and consequent scene when he gets sick and Hawke forced to kill him...

"...you always have asked for the world.."
"...and you always gave it."

Really broke my heart, that.

Ok, so maybe I went meta a little on my first run. I told myself I wouldn't, but that scene was unacceptable. At least when he left later anyway, I had the peace of mind of knowing he was still alive. 
 
 

[Sialater]

Rheia wrote...

I agree I adore Carver. It's odd... I didn't think I'd like him so much. Figured I'd like Bethany more. But... I like Bethany just fine, she's a fine sister, good character, but somehow she just doesn't have same impact on my Hawke that Carver does.

Case in point, I was sad on a playthrough when I took Bethany without Anders to the deep roads. But with Carver... his goodbye to mother, and consequent scene when he gets sick and Hawke forced to kill him...

"...you always have asked for the world.."
"...and you always gave it."

Really broke my heart, that.

Oh, Maker, one conversation I never want to have with him.  Good thing I adore Anders and take him everywhere.  :innocent:

[leggywillow]

Rheia wrote...

"...you always have asked for the world.."
"...and you always gave it."

Really broke my heart, that.

OMG, that is so sweet and sad!

[Chignon]

Rheia wrote...

I agree I adore Carver. It's odd... I didn't think I'd like him so much. Figured I'd like Bethany more. But... I like Bethany just fine, she's a fine sister, good character, but somehow she just doesn't have same impact on my Hawke that Carver does.

Case in point, I was sad on a playthrough when I took Bethany without Anders to the deep roads. But with Carver... his goodbye to mother, and consequent scene when he gets sick and Hawke forced to kill him...

"...you always have asked for the world.."
"...and you always gave it."

Really broke my heart, that.

That's so sad. I don't think I'll be doing this anytime soon. Or ever.

WhisperingCity wrote...

A frequent source of amusement for me was listening to him get hit on by some random woman on the docks. It was so wonderfully awkward. Well, she was either hitting on him or day dreaming about what he would look like drowning, heh. And I agree with whoever it was that said the letter from Peaches, when playing a FemHawke, was a missed opportunity. I would've loved to wave it at him and crow "hello, Mr. Bravest Man I've Ever Known!" Rivalry +10

The ambient banter is hilarious!

Random woman: "You look like a sinker. "
Carver: "... never going near a ship again! "

[Rheia]

Also, in act after Carver's death (after Bethany's too) Companions have some ambient dialog if you click on them. Varrick have some extra on the bertrand quest too. His ambient comment is very heartfelt though, as is Isabella's. She sounds very, very sad.

Modifié par Rheia, 25 mars 2011 - 07:21 .

[sleepingbelow]

Man, Carver is even more bad ass in this playthrough. I'm currently doing the Qunari invasion, and I was comparing the Carver encounter on youtube to mine.

The one on youtube is, I'm assuming, a Rivalry Carver, and he's all business, and that's cool. However, my Hawke, despite being an aggressive "red answer" Hawke, tried to work things out in Act I and push him towards Friendship. Carver's suddenly way more zen-jedi Warden. He's even cooler than my Hawke. Total bad ass.

Not to mention Carver doesn't come off as whiny at all if you play a Hawke that is mostly red answers. He comes off as more the beleaguered younger sibling to an oppressive control freak. I was pumped that he got out from under my character's thumb.

Modifié par sleepingbelow, 26 mars 2011 - 04:11 .

[Chignon]

I really like that the dialogue changes depending on whether Hawke pursued the friendship or rivalry path with him.

[Sialater]

I may try to reign in Margaret's smartassedness on my next run....

Nah... who'm I kidding.

[Sarah1281]

leggywillow wrote...

Rheia wrote...

"...you always have asked for the world.."
"...and you always gave it."

Really broke my heart, that.

OMG, that is so sweet and sad!

I found it on Youtube. It's one of those 'let's play Dragon Age' videos so the Carver part starts at 6:15.

[Chignon]

Sialater wrote...

I may try to reign in Margaret's smartassedness on my next run....

Nah... who'm I kidding.

You could always try with another Hawke who is less ... Margaret-ish. 

[Margaret_TheElf]

Margaret teh elf says, "WAT?".....oh, oh I see. Different Margaret Hawke, mah bad.

[Pix]

Hmm.. Carver seems to have all the personality that Bethany didn't have- It almost makes me want to play through as a mage to get to know him.. but then, would I have to side with the mages again? I don't want to really.

[Sialater]

Chignon wrote...

Sialater wrote...

I may try to reign in Margaret's smartassedness on my next run....

Nah... who'm I kidding.

You could always try with another Hawke who is less ... Margaret-ish. 

I"m going to try.  She'll get Fenris.

[leggywillow]

Sarah1281 wrote...
I found it on Youtube. It's one of those 'let's play Dragon Age' videos so the Carver part starts at 6:15.

Aww. 

The guy playing cracked me up, though.  Just "No.  No, no, no.  Don't even.  Shut up.  Is this seriously happening?"

[WhisperingCity]

Chignon wrote...
The ambient banter is hilarious!

Random woman: "You look like a sinker. ../../../images/forum/emoticons/w00t.png"
Carver: "... never going near a ship again! ../../../images/forum/emoticons/andy.png"

I was tickled that there were three different banters. By the end of Act I, I was just thinking geez, take it easy there cougar. No means no!

Pix wrote...
Hmm.. Carver seems to have all the personality that Bethany didn't have- It almost makes me want to play through as a mage to get to know him.. but then, would I have to side with the mages again? I don't want to really.

Na, you don't have to side with the mages if you don't wanna. My first mage did, but my second one changed her mind about mages ruling themselves after what happened to her mother. It doesn't mean she liked/agreed with Meredith, but just saw her as the lesser of two evils after that. Until she went, you know, all lyrium-idoled.

[Chignon]

Sialater wrote...

I"m going to try.  She'll get Fenris.

I'll probably try the rivalry path soon. Maybe.

Pix wrote...

Hmm.. Carver seems to have all the personality that Bethany didn't have- It almost makes me want to play through as a mage to get to know him.. but then, would I have to side with the mages again? I don't want to really.

On my first playthrough as a mage, I sided with the templars.

There are good reasons to side with either of the two. It was nice to know that Hawke's sibling would stand by his/her side no matter what decisions you make, though.

My worst fear was that Hawke and Bethany/Carver would end up on opposing sides and would have to fight on a  far off mountain-peak.

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WhisperingCity wrote...

I was tickled that there were three different banters. By the end of Act I, I was just thinking geez, take it easy there cougar. No means no!

Wait, there are three banters? Damn - missed the other two, it seems.

Modifié par Chignon, 26 mars 2011 - 09:55 .

[WhisperingCity]

The ones I got during all my traipsing through the docks was the one you said, and to the best of my memory -

Woman: I can always tell a Fereldan chin.
Carver: *uncomfortable laugh* Yes, good day to you.

Woman: This your brother? He like the motion of the ocean?
Carver: Thanks, but no thanks.

[Chignon]

I don't know whether to be disturbed or amused by this.

[Sjofn]

Critical Miss wrote...

I love Carver, maybe because I have a younger brother and we fight all the time.

When my mage saw this, she raged and spared no mage after this little incident with Thrask and Grace.

http://i1086.photobu...rvercropped.jpg 

Your Carver looks a lot like my first MANHAWKE. Scary!

[leggywillow]

Oh, in that YouTube video where Carver dies, he seems to look like the default Carver except with brown eyes.  Is that a mod, or one of the other presets?  I'd like to know; I kinda like Carver with brown eyes.

[Sjofn]

Carver had brown eyes in my first Manhawke playthrough, I think it might change based on your Hawke's eyes? Bethany's seem to change at random all the freaking time for me too.


EDIT: Clarifying: He had brown eyes but was otherwise default. Same with Bethany. I apparently tend towards Hawkes that get the default face/hair ... except one really, really tragic Bethany. Her hair is horrible. I might let her die in the Deep Roads as an act of mercy.

Modifié par Sjofn, 26 mars 2011 - 11:50 .

[Chignon]

leggywillow wrote...

Oh, in that YouTube video where Carver dies, he seems to look like the default Carver except with brown eyes.  Is that a mod, or one of the other presets?  I'd like to know; I kinda like Carver with brown eyes.

He has brown eyes in my current playthrough, too, and I chose the light brown eye colour option for my Hawke from the right side of the slider. I hope that helps.

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Sjofn wrote...

EDIT: Clarifying: He had brown eyes but was otherwise default. Same with Bethany. I apparently tend towards Hawkes that get the default face/hair ... except one really, really tragic Bethany. Her hair is horrible. I might let her die in the Deep Roads as an act of mercy.

That's mean - but kinda funny.

Modifié par Chignon, 26 mars 2011 - 11:52 .