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[Eternal Phoenix]

Master Bandit wrote...

Elton John is dead wrote...

Master Bandit wrote...

Elton John is dead wrote...

-Semper- wrote...

so you are coming here begging for a vote and the same time there's absolutely no support at all, not even a single word about an upcoming patch or other news regading all those bugs. but if there's somewhere a more then senseless award to win you're constantly crawling out of your cave... that's hilarious.

You tell them! 

Merilsell wrote...

Done, in all categories possible I've voted for DA:O. But since I'm rebellious I voted in the 'game to watch' category for Fable 3

Semper said that Bioware doesn't provide support for its fans but if you thought Bioware was bad, you haven't seen Bethesda or Lionhead. Fable II was bugged like Hell and support was only provided 5 months after the release. Fable II had game killings bugs and everything, Fallout New Vegas also has game killing bugs. At least Dragon Age didn't have game killing bugs. Don't vote for Fable 3 people, it'll be as bad as the second one, I warned you about Vegas and you didn't listen and it looks like I was right - it suffers from game killing bugs and so will Fable III suffer from game killing bugs. 

First: Could you address "game killing bugs" in Fable 2 and 3? Because i'v played Fable 2 in over 100 hours without losing anything or seeing any major bugs... And please, don't predict bugs in a game when it's not out yet.

Second: Fallout New Vegas got tons of bug, yes. But guess what, they're fixing it ,and the first patch camed out the 22nd, the same day for EU consumers and three days after for U.S consumers. That's days, not weeks or months. And a new one will probably come out next week. Right after the launch they said that patches are on the way and in development.

Third: Dragon Age didn't have killing bugs?! Are you serious?! I need to wait for about 6-7 months before i got a patch for save corruptions... Bad support right here. And the lack of communication at the beginning made thing even worse.

1. Unlike you, I brought Fable II the day it came out. Just Google game killing bugs for Fable II and you come across articles on gaming sites mentioning them.

http://www.1up.com/n...-2-bug-reported

2. Fallout Vegas shouldn't have that many bugs on the day of release, not game killing bugs, that's just not acceptable. As far as I know, no patch was released. The patch is pending. 

http://www.product-r...h-being-tested/

3. I was right about Fallout Vegas being bugged, I doubt that I will be wrong about Fable III being bugged.

4. I played through Dragon Age various times and never encountered a game killing bug. I encountered a few minor bugs but that was it. It still had more work on than Fable II and Fallout Vegas. 

1. 2-3 months and it was fixed (You said 5 months and that's bogus.) Unlike Dragon Age with it's 7-8months for a game breaking bug to get fixed. Orzammar story glitch and corruption, both "game breaking" and both addressed in the 1.04 patch that camed out in july. That's 8 months of waiting.
Fable 2: http://www.shacknews...article.x/56710

2. This is true, and it unaccepable, but like i pointed out, it got fast fixes, unlike Dragon Age. And i got prompted a patch for the 360 yesterday. Just search the forums and you'll see.
Patch: http://cinemablend.c...ased-27693.html
Forums: http://forums.bethso...box-360-issues/


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4. I think the bugs are far more superior for the consoles, or so it seems like. I encounter bugs all the time with this game. Especially in Awakening.

1. It was 5 months. Patches were released over time.

2. Yeah and I guess that is why the article says the release of the patch is pending. If you did get a patch, I doubt it fixed everything. Even if it did, game killing bugs are still not acceptable. Those without Xbox live will have to do with the bugs. So nope, not even if the patch was release 1 hour after the game was released in shops, it's not acceptable, many don't have Xbox Live and they shouldn't have to go and get it along with internet to fix the game. 
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4. I am using the console version and only ever encountered bugs in Awakening which was a mediocre experience. 

[DeadJediJamie]

Thomas9321 wrote...

Voted for Origins in everything it was up for. I was surprised not to see it in the soundtrack category.

EDIT: Wow, I read this thread for five minutes and I already want to vomit. Good to know I'm part of a fanbase that isn't full of insane, incoherant ranting morons.

There are no words that can adequately express my distaste for you and your rampant fanboyisms. You're part of a fanbase that stumbles through life with their eyes closed, ignorant of all problems and won't hear a bad word said against your favourite developer, likely because you're an xbox 360 player that doesn't have anywhere near the level of technical problems that the PC version does.

[NKKKK]

likely because you're an xbox 360 player that doesn't have anywhere near the level of technical problems that the PC version does.

While I agree with most of what you said, it's really us Xbox players and our lack of modding community that gives the shaft in this end.

[Eternal Phoenix]

DeadJediJamie wrote...

Thomas9321 wrote...

Voted for Origins in everything it was up for. I was surprised not to see it in the soundtrack category.

EDIT: Wow, I read this thread for five minutes and I already want to vomit. Good to know I'm part of a fanbase that isn't full of insane, incoherant ranting morons.

There are no words that can adequately express my distaste for you and your rampant fanboyisms. You're part of a fanbase that stumbles through life with their eyes closed, ignorant of all problems and won't hear a bad word said against your favourite developer, likely because you're an xbox 360 player that doesn't have anywhere near the level of technical problems that the PC version does.

You still get to mod to fix the game yourself. Xbox 360 players are stuck with the bugs until a patch. But still - the bugs in DA:O are not as bad as the bugs encountered in Fallout: New Vegas or Fable II. 

Modifié par Elton John is dead, 24 octobre 2010 - 01:44 .

[Heather Cline]

I only voted for DA in one category. With so many bugs I didn't believe it deserved more. I voted for ME2 in two categories since there wasn't any other categories for DA or ME2.

[Hel]

Uncharted 2: Among Thieves (and Mass Effect 2) for the win!

[Gold Dragon]

Tatinger wrote...

A Golden Dragon wrote...

Most of those were errors on the PLAYER-side...

And you would know this how, o mighty seer?  I didn't have the game crash on me once (though, I have a top-of-the-line computer; I can only empathize with those players who were suffering with that particular problem while having to deal with all the other issues that have been reported).  If you had actually bothered to read what people have been posting, you'd see that has nothing to do with the reason why we're not voting for DA:O for any of the categories it has been nominated for.

*sigh*  Tatinger, I spoke ONLY of my experiences within Origins and Awakening.  The ONLY crashes I suffered were player-caused thru things that Developers have absolutely NO CONTROL OVER!  Is it the Developers fault if my HDD is in bad need of defragmenting (the drive was nearly 60% fragmented, FYI)?  No, it is not.  Player-side problem.  It MIGHT have been a memory leak (or something) that caused a crash after about 7 hours of straight play-thru.  If so, THAT is something Devs could do, but as it only happened once, and I couldn't repeat it, the Devs would most likely ignore it in favor of something they actually could track down.

Again, I do NOT speak for the majority of players (many of which have quite legitimate complaints, I might add), nor am I trying to influence any votes for (or against) Dragon Age.  If someone feels that DA:O deserves a top spot, vote for it.  If someone believes that it doesn't, then by all means, vote for something else!  And enjoy it, either way.

And lastly, Tatinger, I take what you did (singling out one part of one sentence and slamming me for it) as a personal attack, and should it happen again, I will report it.  However, if you feel that this "conversation" needs to continue, feel free to PM me, and we can continue there.  But to continue here will likely get us BOTH in hot water, or even banned.  Let us avoid this, please.

[Bahlgan]

Will not even take this thread seriously until Awakening's bugs are fixed.

[Tatinger]

A Golden Dragon wrote...

*sigh*  Tatinger, I spoke ONLY of my experiences within Origins and Awakening.  The ONLY crashes I suffered were player-caused thru things that Developers have absolutely NO CONTROL OVER!  Is it the Developers fault if my HDD is in bad need of defragmenting (the drive was nearly 60% fragmented, FYI)?  No, it is not.  Player-side problem.  It MIGHT have been a memory leak (or something) that caused a crash after about 7 hours of straight play-thru.  If so, THAT is something Devs could do, but as it only happened once, and I couldn't repeat it, the Devs would most likely ignore it in favor of something they actually could track down.

Again, I do NOT speak for the majority of players (many of which have quite legitimate complaints, I might add), nor am I trying to influence any votes for (or against) Dragon Age.  If someone feels that DA:O deserves a top spot, vote for it.  If someone believes that it doesn't, then by all means, vote for something else!  And enjoy it, either way.

And lastly, Tatinger, I take what you did (singling out one part of one sentence and slamming me for it) as a personal attack, and should it happen again, I will report it.  However, if you feel that this "conversation" needs to continue, feel free to PM me, and we can continue there.  But to continue here will likely get us BOTH in hot water, or even banned.  Let us avoid this, please.

That's fair enough -- that is to say, that you were only speaking of your own issues with the game -- but that's definitely not how it "read" (and to make sure it wasn't just me, I did run your post past a number of people who all came away with the same impression/conclusion: that by generalizing a group and their reaction to a situation that you couldn't possibly have any supportive evidence for or knowledge about (i. e., saying things like "Most of those were errors on the PLAYER-side" instead of "these were the errors that I had encountered while playing...", etc., etc..) you were effectively dismissing the many varied claims and criticisms that people had had with the game, out of hand. Of course, now that you've clarified all of this, I'm sure that it will be very much appreciated by all who have been frustrated by their DA:O-A gaming experience (through no fault of their own) and felt the need to voice that displeasure by not voting for said game in any of The Golden Joystick categories that it had been nominated for).  Dig? Word.

Finally, to answer your closing statement with one of my own: I'm sorry that you felt that my selective quoting of that half-a-sentence of yours (out of a grand total of two-and-a-half) was somehow misrepresenting what you had to say on the issue (insert academic eye-roll here) and that I was somehow using it to 'slam' you (boy, if that's slamming, I'd hate to see how you'd handle some of the thread postings on this board where things really get heated) but I have to say that I take great humour in the fact that, with this lastest posting of yours, you're all of a sudden using a first person invective to chide me for my apparent misunderstanding of your use of the third person in your first post!  LOL! You can't have it both ways, you know.

Modifié par Tatinger, 30 novembre 2010 - 09:25 .

[Bahlgan]

DeadJediJamie wrote...

Thomas9321 wrote...

Voted for Origins in everything it was up for. I was surprised not to see it in the soundtrack category.

EDIT: Wow, I read this thread for five minutes and I already want to vomit. Good to know I'm part of a fanbase that isn't full of insane, incoherant ranting morons.

There are no words that can adequately express my distaste for you and your rampant fanboyisms. You're part of a fanbase that stumbles through life with their eyes closed, ignorant of all problems and won't hear a bad word said against your favourite developer, likely because you're an xbox 360 player that doesn't have anywhere near the level of technical problems that the PC version does.

Actually I'd say PC gets the good side because players can mod their way past any bug out there. But I agree, people like this guy need some desperate help due to the contributions of the infection that is the blindness towards innovation of fixing bugs.

[UberDuber]

jojimbo wrote...

No vote from me because WH was a flaming turd.
You insulted my intelligence with lacklustre D Lol C
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So what has Bioware got to say in way of an explanation or apology for this lacklustre rubbish story ending? Surely for the love of God you can't be at all happy with this latest DLC cashcow?

I think you ought to be considering re-making the whole thing and this time doing it the justice it deserves.
then i might vote for you, you have lost your way since DA:O and Guildwars2 is gonna kick your butts

 I agree with you. I got no questions answered or got anything explained to me. As far as I know my warden and Morrigan disappeared into thin air for the next ten years. I mean how am I suppose to move onto Hawke with an ending like that? I'm not by the way.

[Eternal Phoenix]

Master Bandit wrote...

First: Could you address "game killing bugs" in Fable 2 and 3? Because i'v played Fable 2 in over 100 hours without losing anything or seeing any major bugs... And please, don't predict bugs in a game when it's not out yet.

http://uk.gamespot.c...iii/review.html

Looks like I was right about Fable III Master Bandit. It's another Fallout New Vegas with technical issues and glitches. Buy at your own risk. 

[Heather Cline]

It does have some glitches and technical issues but none of them are game breaking that I've seen so far. Just some problems with the Sanctuary or frame rates dropping during battles or running around the world. That and the dog can't keep up with you unlike in Fable 2 where your dog ran beside you all the time or went off to show you were to dig. Which hopefully will be fixed in a patch soon.

[TostitoBandito]

DeadJediJamie wrote...

You're part of a fanbase that stumbles through life with their eyes closed, ignorant of all problems and won't hear a bad word said against your favourite developer, likely because you're an xbox 360 player that doesn't have anywhere near the level of technical problems that the PC version does.

I bought DA:O on Xbox 360 and trust me, we got the short end.  Patches on the consoles, and xbox specifically, were MONTHS later than the same fixes on the PC.  It took them over a year to fix the dex bug on xbox; this was fixed in one of the first couple patches on PC if I recall.  I think the game was out for several months before xbox even got the first patch that PC users got within a week or two of release.  For the first 6 months or so after release, the Bioware DA:O Xbox 360 Support forum had no Bioware posts/replies except for when a new DLC was coming out.  They'd put out a title update with only what they needed to fix so the DLC would run, and then be silent until the next DLC came out.  It wasn't until after the first few DLC's when we actually got the first real patches and bug fixes.

Your generalization about Xbox users is also out of touch.  I own both a gaming PC and and an Xbox 360, and I buy and play games on both.  I played all the Baldur's Gate and Icewind Dale games on PC back in the day, but got DA:O on 360 in part so my whole household can play with a single copy and a single set of DLC's while using their own accounts and profiles via Xbox Live.  If I bought it on Steam it's locked to the account so it's basically setup for a single user.  I (mistakenly) figured the support would be the same so I decided to save the headache and get the 360 version.

[Morrigans God son]

I didn't even vote, opps I'm sure half of the fan base didn't even vote.

Didn't DAO win RPG OF THE YEAR IN 2009?

[ninja0809]

Morrigans God son wrote...

I didn't even vote, opps I'm sure half of the fan base didn't even vote.
Didn't DAO win RPG OF THE YEAR IN 2009?

well if that's true then great, cuz they didnt win crap in 2010!

good thing mass effect 2 brought in 2 big awards ^^

[mad825]

Morrigans God son wrote...

I didn't even vote, opps I'm sure half of the fan base didn't even vote.
Didn't DAO win RPG OF THE YEAR IN 2009?

no.
The date of release of DAO was after the awards therefore they dont qualiify, DAO didn't even win the "one to watch" beucase of the MW craze .

but to be fair, ME2 was the newer, succssor to Bioware's latest achivements so instead DA2 may win it next year if The Wicher 2 or Deus Ex: human re-evaluation dont become as big hits.

Modifié par mad825, 31 octobre 2010 - 02:55 .

[Tiberius88]

I will support DA:O because I have it for the PC so the toolset/mods helped a lot to make the game awesome. Awakening and DLCs ... they were bugged, had no real testing and many bugs are still present in the Ultimate Edition of DA:O. Sorry BioWare but you should not release content unless it is tested AND if there might be some MINOR bugs left - FIX THEM!

[BallaZs]

ninja0809 wrote...

Morrigans God son wrote...

I didn't even vote, opps I'm sure half of the fan base didn't even vote.
Didn't DAO win RPG OF THE YEAR IN 2009?

well if that's true then great, cuz they didnt win crap in 2010!

good thing mass effect 2 brought in 2 big awards ^^

Well, I'm sure that DA was MY GAME OF THE NEXT 10 YEAR  (Which means nothing I know)
But it's feels good to state that.
There is no better RPG out there better than DAO.

[Casafyn]

I didn't get to vote. I hope DA:O won RPG. It was impressive and deserves it. I have and always will love what that game managed to do for choose your own adventure rpg stories.

I concur about the DLC (D lol C made me laugh), and I also have my concerns about DA2. I think Bioware doesn't get what made DA:O so awesome, how personal story developed with NPC's was awesome, and they're leaving us hanging and expecting us to swallow new and shallow npc interaction in DLC and then just pick up and start over with all new everything in sequels.

But, I have hope. And hopeful me will go out and buy any more DLC, and DA2 because of how impressed I was with DA:O and hoping for more story about those original npc's and my character. But the franchise can only last so long on the coattails of it's originator before I move on. :{

Modifié par Casafyn, 10 novembre 2010 - 06:40 .

[casedawgz]

Voted for ME2 and DA:O whenever possible. Except soundtrack. I still get aroused thinking about Brutal Legend's soundtrack.

[Casafyn]

Oh I LOVED the DA soundtrack. In fact, I wanted to buy a physical CD, but ended up having to wait so I can purchase an MP3 set online.

[originalabsinthe]

No.

[Valcutio]

What the heck are some of you talking about? There's been a TON of support for Dragon Age for both new content and bug fixes. Bioware is the greatest game company in the world. I'm not saying that as a fanboy of Bioware, I'm saying it as a fan of games as a whole.

The interaction of the developers with the community has been amazing and the way some ppl have treated them has been nothing short of shocking. As gamers we are a much harsher consumer base, which I think is a great thing, but when a company goes out of their way to be a part of the community that has formed around their products, we should strive to be more constructive and less inflamatory.

For the record, as an avid PC gamer, I didn't encounter a single game-breaking bug in either Origins, Awakenings or any of the other DLC. I ran across a few inconsistancies in the quest chains, but nothing that would warrant not awarding DA:O and ME2 all of the acclaim that both products deserve.

You guys have my vote.

Modifié par Valcutio, 14 novembre 2010 - 05:06 .