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[primero holodon]

Considering how many aliens would gladly bang shepard I think the answer is fairly clear.

[maxernst]

Eledran wrote...

Probably as much as anyone can find a cat, or a dog or a jellyfish attractive.

But then again, people who play ME find Turians and Drell attractive, but those creatures are still very much like us.
So it would heavily depend on the form of the Alien in question...

Yes, I think this makes sense.  We can find animals aesthetically pleasing but attractive in the sense of being turned on by them?  Not most of us.  So I think except for very similar aliens like Asari, they probably wouldn't be attracted to us. 

[Icinix]

 Me maybe.

...probably not you.

[fongiel24]

primero holodon wrote...

Considering how many aliens would gladly bang shepard I think the answer is fairly clear.

Yes, but it's Shepard. Try to get the image of Shepard out of your head and replace it with the looks and personality of Conrad Verner or Fist and ask yourself if aliens would gladly bang them.

[Saibh]

fongiel24 wrote...

primero holodon wrote...

Considering how many aliens would gladly bang shepard I think the answer is fairly clear.

Yes, but it's Shepard. Try to get the image of Shepard out of your head and replace it with the looks and personality of Conrad Verner or Fist and ask yourself if aliens would gladly bang them.

Mordin suggests that the asari affect something neurally to make them seem attractive to other species--not to mention the ability to mate with them successfully. In that vein, if "asari look attractive" gets hardwired into the aliens' collective consciousness, it's not a far leap for humans to look attractive to them by default. Same bodies, same faces, with very little difference.

As I said earlier, I think it's much weirder for aliens to be attracted to human men, who look a great deal like female asari. Especially with species without breasts, like the quarians--without that very obvious indicator of sex, human males must look a great deal like ugly asari.

Of course, I've only seen one case of a non-quarian or asari being attracted to a human male...in no small part because we've never seen a female non-quarian or asari.

Modifié par Saibh, 26 octobre 2010 - 04:10 .

[William Adama]

I thought it was made canon that Asari look like the opposite sex of any aliens species. For humans they look human, for Salarians they look Salarian and for Turians etc.



Go to Illium's bar (I think it's called Eternity) and listen to the bachelor party conversation (at the table with the dancing asari on it). I thought it was a nice touch...

[Saibh]

William Adama wrote...

I thought it was made canon that Asari look like the opposite sex of any aliens species. For humans they look human, for Salarians they look Salarian and for Turians etc.

Go to Illium's bar (I think it's called Eternity) and listen to the bachelor party conversation (at the table with the dancing asari on it). I thought it was a nice touch...

Nah. That's an off conversation that has no bearing on the world. If that was the case, why do asari corpses, asari holograms, asari photographs, asari babies etc all look like human females? 

[kalle90]

If I find the alien attractive, why couldn't it find me attractive?



Talking in the big picture of course. Some individuals are more attractive than others

[maxernst]

Saibh wrote...

William Adama wrote...

I thought it was made canon that Asari look like the opposite sex of any aliens species. For humans they look human, for Salarians they look Salarian and for Turians etc.

Go to Illium's bar (I think it's called Eternity) and listen to the bachelor party conversation (at the table with the dancing asari on it). I thought it was a nice touch...

Nah. That's an off conversation that has no bearing on the world. If that was the case, why do asari corpses, asari holograms, asari photographs, asari babies etc all look like human females? 

Because the universe revolves around Commander Shepard? 

[Evelinessa]

ReconTeam wrote...

ModestmeNTaLmogul wrote...
Yeah,some aliens did find humans attractive.Turian men seem to have a "fetish" for human women but I dont know about the other aliens...

I don't recall hearing that. I remember Mordin talking about a fetish some krogan have for salarians (safeword is genophage) but does FemShep get hit on by turians?

I've only seen one turian hit on my femshep and that was on Samara's loyalty mission.

[curly haired boy]

aliens aren't attracted to humans.



aliens are attracted to shepard.



there's a difference.

[BuddyBurkman]

Evelinessa wrote...

ReconTeam wrote...

ModestmeNTaLmogul wrote...
Yeah,some aliens did find humans attractive.Turian men seem to have a "fetish" for human women but I dont know about the other aliens...

I don't recall hearing that. I remember Mordin talking about a fetish some krogan have for salarians (safeword is genophage) but does FemShep get hit on by turians?

I've only seen one turian hit on my femshep and that was on Samara's loyalty mission.

He's only in it for the good times, and according to Commander Shepard, good times are over.

Modifié par BuddyBurkman, 28 octobre 2010 - 07:07 .

[ObserverStatus]

belwin wrote...

the five fingers!
nasty!

but all races have some semblances ya know.
2 legs, one head, arms, torso etc.

Inamorda: Stupid base-10 math. That's what they get for having extra fingers.

[Schattenkeil]

I think that would be an a mutual base. An alien would find your species no more attractive than you would find them attractive. Though they may react to completely different impulses, smells, voice patterns, movement patterns might be more important to them than the actual looks, but you will still be pretty alien to them. Biologically seen it doesn't make a lot of sense  to be attracted to members of a species you can categorically not generate offspring with. The exception are probably Asari who can find attraction in pretty much anything. Probably even a hanar.

Modifié par Schattenkeil, 28 octobre 2010 - 09:46 .

[Getorex]

Phategod1 wrote...

I basically romanced Humes save for my renegade shep that romanced Liara. To answer your question though they would either look similar to us or be evolved enough to look past the exterior.

Not really. Evolution will never bring a species to be "into" other species. Not how it works (except in games and Star Trek). Biology doesn't work that way for inherently obvious reasons. Putting aside the common conceit of games and movies, it is flat-out impossible for any alien species to be sexually or romantically interested in humans (and vice versa).

Suppose for a moment (thought experiment):

Let's suppose for a moment that a Bonobo chimp actually had roughly human-level intelligence and communications capabilities. You can actually sit down with one and converse with it, be friends, etc. This in no way means that it would ever be sexually interested/romantically interested in you nor vice versa (to do so would actually be a pathology).

Apply the same argument to dogs, horses, tigers, ostriches, dolphins, etc. In a way they are ALL aliens, with the caveat that every single one of them is evolutionarily related to you with varying distances (counted in 10s of millions of years wrt the mammals, the birds are over 100s of millions of years separate from you - they are, truly and in fact, feathered dinosaurs). They are thus infinitely closer to you in all ways than ANY alien from ANY other planet ever could be. Yet they are beyond romantic pursuit regardless of their intelligence and communication abilities. They would exclusively "dig" conspecifics as do healthy, normal humans.

That is a separate issue (reality vs fantasy) than what is depicted in this game or in movies. Remember, ALL aliens in ANY game or story are actually merely tools to express human ideas and social mores and have little or nothing to do with REAL aliens. All sci fi and fantasy is actually about the "human condition", not about different species ACTUALLY loving and humping and kissing each other.

Modifié par Getorex, 28 octobre 2010 - 02:44 .

[Getorex]

Schattenkeil wrote...

I think that would be an a mutual base. An alien would find your species no more attractive than you would find them attractive. Though they may react to completely different impulses, smells, voice patterns, movement patterns might be more important to them than the actual looks, but you will still be pretty alien to them. Biologically seen it doesn't make a lot of sense  to be attracted to members of a species you can categorically not generate offspring with. The exception are probably Asari who can find attraction in pretty much anything. Probably even a hanar.

Indeed. From real life, an example to illuminate the actual reality of the situation:

I'm a biologist (biochemist). My brother is a wildlife biologist. He used to work at Sea World in San Diego some years ago, taking care of sea mammals (primarily sea lions and otters and walrus', though he did have some interaction with the dolphins). There is (or was) a dolphin pool there where you could go and, if fortunate, get kind of close and personal with dolphins. Sometimes they would come up along the side and take a look at you and let you pet them on the head, along the back, or roll over and let you pet their bellies. All really nice and cool, really. A chance to "commune" with what is literally an alien species with an intelligence not like that (at all) of humans.

Well, there was a subset of the population who would make regular visits to the pool (they were usually women, which may or may not have significance). These people had to be watched for and dealt with by ushering them away from the pool because they believed they had a "special relationship" or "special connection" with the dolphins. Often, they thought that they (and the dolphins) "understood" each other and loved each other. Towards this end, rather than simply petting the dolphins on the head and belly as a normal person would, they would go the extra mile and start manipulating the sex organs of the male dolphins. Basically, they were attempting to jack off the dolphins "out of love" and in keeping with their "special" relationship.

Hopefully, ALL of you are repelled by this. Hopefully, the image that forms in your head brings disgust. The dolphins are NOT sexually enticed by humans, they do NOT have a "special" relationship with ANY of these people and CANNOT do so. This is a pathology on the part of the perp. No doubt there is some sad reason for it but nonetheless... It wouldn't matter one iota if the dolphins actually had human-level (or greater) intelligence and the ability to express that to us in a completely understandable conversation. It would still be freakish to jack off a dolphin. It would still be a psychosexual pathology.

It would be the same thing with ANY intelligent (or non-intelligent for that matter) alien species. In real life. In games and movies, knock yourself out.

Modifié par Getorex, 28 octobre 2010 - 03:30 .

[Getorex]

mashavasilec wrote...

bringing a scientific base to Mass Effect xenophilia... heavy risk

Expressed in a manner 100% in character for Thane.

Normally I wouldn't volunteer it but the question for the thread directly asks a theoretical question along the lines of "what if...?" There is a huge discussion you could have as well as to why it would be impossible to mate with even the Asari or why ANY of the species depicted would be biologically incompatible with all the others beyond any odd surface sexual attraction.

But that's a completely different thread.

Oh, and "HAH!" I LOVE your sig. Very funny.

Modifié par Getorex, 28 octobre 2010 - 04:06 .

[Getorex]

maxernst wrote...

Eledran wrote...

Probably as much as anyone can find a cat, or a dog or a jellyfish attractive.

But then again, people who play ME find Turians and Drell attractive, but those creatures are still very much like us.
So it would heavily depend on the form of the Alien in question...

Yes, I think this makes sense.  We can find animals aesthetically pleasing but attractive in the sense of being turned on by them?  Not most of us.  So I think except for very similar aliens like Asari, they probably wouldn't be attracted to us. 

Leaving aside the simple fact that if you actually, in real life, came across a physically real Turian (not a dude in costume, ladies) with the real flesh, spikes, smell, size, shape...your response would most assuredly NOT be, 'Hey baby, wanna date?" It would be more like, 'GAH! What ARE you?! Please don't kill me!" If one came upon in one at night and from fair darkness, it is a solid bet that screaming, pants wetting, if not outright fainting and shock would ensue.

The cartoon is safe, tame, unreal, and attractively depicted. The real deal would be an entirely different tank of piranhas.

Modifié par Getorex, 28 octobre 2010 - 04:27 .

[Getorex]

Icinix wrote...

 Me maybe.

...probably not you.

Hah!

And your sig...been meaning to ask...is that Jack Handy by any chance?

[CalJones]

I think our head hair might be fascinating for some aliens, but I also think a lot of them would be repelled by our body hair...

[Lord_Caledore]

Getorex wrote...
The cartoon is safe, tame, unreal, and attractively depicted. The real deal would be an entirely different tank of piranhas.

Yea, I think if most people who are attracted to Turians saw a "real" one, they'd run away screaming.

[deleted]

Like several people mentioned, if there are actual aliens, the chance that they would look similar in appearance to us (at least as similar to us as the asari) is zero. No human would find them attractive and vice versa.

[nevar00]

Well... yeah, if we can be attracted to aliens, there is no reason to why they couldn't feel the same. Just look at some of the Garrus/Thane/Tali/Asari fans here...



Besides, personality >>>>>>> looks. Hell I'd take Samara or Tali over Miranda or Jack. Sure, Miranda has DAT ASS, but she's a b*tch... and Jack scares me.



Remember that fat ugly guy in High School who still got all the girls because he was funny? My point exactly. Personality is what matters to most people... not looks or biological reproduction (necessarily: sterile folks!). Dolphins are a completely different discussion: first and foremost they aren't "intelligent".