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[Saibh]

joey_mork84 wrote...

For them to be a bit more realistic, I think every single person/alien on the ship should be romancable, because in real life, they would all be possibilities. Even Joker and Chakwas. Not so sure that real life individuals would find a real life Turian, or any other alien species attractive, regardless of personality, but that's completely subjective to the individuals involved. But from a video game, that's asking too much. They would probably have to take a lot away from other areas in the game to add all these romances, more than likely. Still a nice thought lol

...No, in real life Shepard would have the ability to come on to everyone, but why would they all be universally attracted to Shepard? That doesn't make any sense. They wouldn't be possibilities--Shepard would hit on them and it wouldn't work. While an option like that would go a long way to clearing up "Why doesn't Kasumi like me?!", they can't include every possible scenario of how Shepard might handle her/his crewmates.

[joey_mork84]

I said they would be possibilities, not that they would all just jump right into bed with him given enough time, but that the possibility would be there.

[Icinix]

Saibh wrote...

joey_mork84 wrote...

For them to be a bit more realistic, I think every single person/alien on the ship should be romancable, because in real life, they would all be possibilities. Even Joker and Chakwas. Not so sure that real life individuals would find a real life Turian, or any other alien species attractive, regardless of personality, but that's completely subjective to the individuals involved. But from a video game, that's asking too much. They would probably have to take a lot away from other areas in the game to add all these romances, more than likely. Still a nice thought lol

...No, in real life Shepard would have the ability to come on to everyone, but why would they all be universally attracted to Shepard? That doesn't make any sense. They wouldn't be possibilities--Shepard would hit on them and it wouldn't work. While an option like that would go a long way to clearing up "Why doesn't Kasumi like me?!", they can't include every possible scenario of how Shepard might handle her/his crewmates.

You mean like the attempt on Samara that fails?

I like the idea of being able to try for everyone, but having them laugh at you.  Even better, if certain parameters in the face creation increased / decreased their attractable rating.

But thats awfully close to creating a dating game sim.  Then again, I won't be happy until all those genres are merged into one super game that will cause me to give up my life and never play any other game again.

But yeah, like the devs have said before, adding variables for things like that means less time on other things the majority of people will play.  Better off to avoid romancing X number of people and have more time on things everyone will encounter.

[cihimi]

Tranceptor wrote...

ReconTeam wrote...

Dr. Hacksaw is kinda old.

She's english. English women get better with age.

At least that's what Ihear.

Well, you heard wrong. English women are the best hors d'oeuvre in the whole damn Citadel.

[MrnDvlDg161]

Negative.



Although with age comes experience, too much age, and you'll be sleeping with whats equivalent to your grandmother!



We don't need to install a Cougar Town DLC in the Mass Effect universe --- why someone wants to see their Shepard smooching with a interstellar Janice Dickenson ( bleh!) I don't know... but then again ---- some people want to be friends with the Reapers and take The Geth as their best friend.

[ninja0809]

just how old is chakwas....60? She sure knows how to watch her figure.

[Xeranx]

Phaedon wrote...

And for what crime exactly has the bounty been placed on the romance ?

LMAO!!  That brought tears to my eyes.

I was really expecting it or something really.  I can see a very special (as in mature and I don't know how else to explain it).  If it's at all possible that would make up for the relationships that occurred in ME2.

MrnDvlDg161 wrote...

Negative.

Although with age comes experience, too much age, and you'll be sleeping with whats equivalent to your grandmother! 

We don't need to install a Cougar Town DLC in the Mass Effect universe --- why someone wants to see their Shepard smooching with a interstellar Janice Dickenson ( bleh!) I don't know... but then again ---- some people want to be friends with the Reapers and take The Geth as their best friend.

If Chakwas was anything like Janice Dickenson that would definitely kill any interest I have or would have in her.  Thankfully Chakwas is a sensible, caring, charismatic individual.  Dickenson on the other hand...I don't want to give her any more type time.

Modifié par Xeranx, 27 octobre 2010 - 12:09 .

[FuturePasTimeCE]

screw this romance crap... it has nothing to do with some guy's mission or career. it's a interference. it's disturbing his futuristic habitat. shepard probably doesn't want to be slowed down.

Modifié par FuturePasTimeCE, 27 octobre 2010 - 04:36 .

[mariahchu]

joey_mork84 wrote...

For them to be a bit more realistic, I think every single person/alien on the ship should be romancable, because in real life, they would all be possibilities.

Well, not totally...  I mean, they could be like, not emotionally available (kinda like Samara) or even married to someone not on the ship... I mean, I get what you're saying, but at the same time, in real life, not *everyone* is romaceable.  

Unless you REALLY think you're THAT smooth??  

[mariahchu]

ninja0809 wrote...

just how old is chakwas....60? She sure knows how to watch her figure.

It's the future dude, she probably just gives herself a shot of Femi-slim or something. ( if you get the reference.)

And why do I picture her as Helen Mirren?  Still gorgeous and smart as ever!

[joey_mork84]

mariahchu wrote...

Unless you REALLY think you're THAT smooth??  

Oh, I am.. lol

[Getorex]

Saibh wrote...

joey_mork84 wrote...

For them to be a bit more realistic, I think every single person/alien on the ship should be romancable, because in real life, they would all be possibilities. Even Joker and Chakwas. Not so sure that real life individuals would find a real life Turian, or any other alien species attractive, regardless of personality, but that's completely subjective to the individuals involved. But from a video game, that's asking too much. They would probably have to take a lot away from other areas in the game to add all these romances, more than likely. Still a nice thought lol

...No, in real life Shepard would have the ability to come on to everyone, but why would they all be universally attracted to Shepard? That doesn't make any sense. They wouldn't be possibilities--Shepard would hit on them and it wouldn't work. While an option like that would go a long way to clearing up "Why doesn't Kasumi like me?!", they can't include every possible scenario of how Shepard might handle her/his crewmates.

I love my horses and I like to think that they kinda like me, but I don't wanna do them and they don't have a desire to do me. Sexual attraction isn't universal, trans-species (in normal people), nor equal opportunity.

You ask, "why would they all be universally attracted to Shepard?". I ask, why do people here want Shepard to be totally indiscriminate in who he nails? Is he a dog smelling a **** in heat or something? Did Miranda's resurrection work damage Shepard's brain so that he gets a hardon for anything and anyone that moves? Really? I think this Shepard needs a chemical castration to keep the crazy trans-species wanderings down.

[Getorex]

mariahchu wrote...

joey_mork84 wrote...

For them to be a bit more realistic, I think every single person/alien on the ship should be romancable, because in real life, they would all be possibilities.

Well, not totally...  I mean, they could be like, not emotionally available (kinda like Samara) or even married to someone not on the ship... I mean, I get what you're saying, but at the same time, in real life, not *everyone* is romaceable.  

Unless you REALLY think you're THAT smooth??  

Picure this: the movie "ET: The Extraterrestrial" with hot teenage girls (or college girls) and guys instead of cutesy little kids. ET himself is the same little trollish wrinkled thingy.

Now then, to make it a "bit more realistic" do ya'll REALLY think the human girls might want to bang the little troll? He's cute, sure, but not in THAT way.

How about "Close Encounters of the Third Kind"? Would some of you REALLY think it even remotely realistic if they redid that so the humans being taken aboard the ship at the end could "date" the tall, stringy, swollen-head aliens? REALLY? You REALLY find that sort of elephant man distortion of the human form sexually nifty? I mean, hey, it's great to have you on board as a friend and all but I do NOT want to dip my wick into THAT. Yeesh. I would find it freakish if they themselves were interested in what equates to a variant of bestiality and want to dip (or whatever they do) into ME. No thank you, but that human chick you brought onboard over THERE...she's nice.

It is generally called fetishism, not romance.

Modifié par Getorex, 27 octobre 2010 - 04:46 .

[joey_mork84]

Getorex wrote...

mariahchu wrote...

joey_mork84 wrote...

For them to be a bit more realistic, I think every single person/alien on the ship should be romancable, because in real life, they would all be possibilities.

Well, not totally...  I mean, they could be like, not emotionally available (kinda like Samara) or even married to someone not on the ship... I mean, I get what you're saying, but at the same time, in real life, not *everyone* is romaceable.  

Unless you REALLY think you're THAT smooth??  

Picure this: the movie "ET: The Extraterrestrial" with hot teenage girls (or college girls) and guys instead of cutesy little kids. ET himself is the same little trollish wrinkled thingy.

Now then, to make it a "bit more realistic" do ya'll REALLY think the human girls might want to bang the little troll? He's cute, sure, but not in THAT way.

How about "Close Encounters of the Third Kind"? Would some of you REALLY think it even remotely realistic if they redid that so the humans being taken aboard the ship at the end could "date" the tall, stringy, swollen-head aliens? REALLY? You REALLY find that sort of elephant man distortion of the human form sexually nifty? I mean, hey, it's great to have you on board as a friend and all but I do NOT want to dip my wick into THAT. Yeesh. I would find it freakish if they themselves were interested in what equates to a variant of bestiality and want to dip (or whatever they do) into ME. No thank you, but that human chick you brought onboard over THERE...she's nice.

It is generally called fetishism, not romance.

You can already romance the aliens. I'm talking about the other humans on your crew besides just those you take on missions.

[PnXMarcin1PL]

chasedark wrote...

 with Chakwas.  It is necessary.<3

romance needed ? find yourself a girlfriend, to do so simply outside your home

[Getorex]

joey_mork84 wrote...

Getorex wrote...

mariahchu wrote...

joey_mork84 wrote...

For them to be a bit more realistic, I think every single person/alien on the ship should be romancable, because in real life, they would all be possibilities.

Well, not totally...  I mean, they could be like, not emotionally available (kinda like Samara) or even married to someone not on the ship... I mean, I get what you're saying, but at the same time, in real life, not *everyone* is romaceable.  

Unless you REALLY think you're THAT smooth??  

Picure this: the movie "ET: The Extraterrestrial" with hot teenage girls (or college girls) and guys instead of cutesy little kids. ET himself is the same little trollish wrinkled thingy.

Now then, to make it a "bit more realistic" do ya'll REALLY think the human girls might want to bang the little troll? He's cute, sure, but not in THAT way.

How about "Close Encounters of the Third Kind"? Would some of you REALLY think it even remotely realistic if they redid that so the humans being taken aboard the ship at the end could "date" the tall, stringy, swollen-head aliens? REALLY? You REALLY find that sort of elephant man distortion of the human form sexually nifty? I mean, hey, it's great to have you on board as a friend and all but I do NOT want to dip my wick into THAT. Yeesh. I would find it freakish if they themselves were interested in what equates to a variant of bestiality and want to dip (or whatever they do) into ME. No thank you, but that human chick you brought onboard over THERE...she's nice.

It is generally called fetishism, not romance.

You can already romance the aliens. I'm talking about the other humans on your crew besides just those you take on missions.

Sorry, I wasn't clear...I wasn't necessarily directing my comment to YOU. I was addressing the general idea that ALL creatures great and small in the ME universe should be "available". Wha? Vorcha? Volus'? VARREN? Sweet Cthulhu NO!

As for the aliens...for the male Shep, ALL the potential LI's are VERY close to human female ideal in form. NONE are clearly alien, not in body form, not in face (Bioware/EA Games could retcon us and arrange for Tali's hidden face to turn out to look like a Predator alien rather than the very human form it has based on glimpses availed in ME1 and ME2 but that would be cruel and pointless). That...benefit...of selecting clearly non-human and outright un-physically-attractive aliens...is left (happily) only for the fem Sheppers out there.

As it is, you can go with a freebie: Kelly. She is available for private visits to your cabin after the suicide mission if you don't pick anyone else. Or do you have in mind stealing Gabby from her guy/coworker in engineering? He doesn't appear to be doing anything with her so why not? Is that it? Or Chakwas? Watch out with going with Chakwas. The way she turns to you all trance-like and stare-eyed whenever you visit to talk...she's either a zombie, on drugs, or a pod person and not REALLY a human.

Modifié par Getorex, 27 octobre 2010 - 05:05 .

[cihimi]

FuturePasTimeCE wrote...

screw this romance crap... it has nothing to do with some guy's mission or career. it's a interference. it's disturbing his futuristic habitat. shepard probably doesn't want to be slowed down.

Shepard is a goddamn tiger. And if the deer comes to him, he will devour it. Comes with the territory.

[joey_mork84]

@Getorex: LOL!.. I kinda thought the general consensus of romancing things like varren or the like would go without saying.. Those are the alien equivalent to dogs and well.. That would be messed up lol..

I get what you're saying for the other aliens, though. The fem-sheps did kinda get the short stick as for romances and yes, the male-shep romances (even aliens) possess the attractive human female forms. I would seriously laugh, though if Tali ended up with a squid for a face or something. That would be hilarious and totally unexpected. I'm not one for romancing the aliens anyway. So far, in both ME1 and ME2, Liara is the only alien I've romanced (even though I just recently got the games). Seriously, though, that post made me literally LOL.. Thanks for the laugh lol

Modifié par joey_mork84, 27 octobre 2010 - 05:13 .

[kalle90]

Saibh wrote...
...No, in real life Shepard would have the ability to come on to everyone, but why would they all be universally attracted to Shepard? That doesn't make any sense. They wouldn't be possibilities--Shepard would hit on them and it wouldn't work. While an option like that would go a long way to clearing up "Why doesn't Kasumi like me?!", they can't include every possible scenario of how Shepard might handle her/his crewmates.

That makes sense. It would be helpful to give 1 flirt response with Kasumi and have her turn us down. Would stop the questions atleast.

Getorex wrote...
I love my horses and I like to think that they kinda like me, but I don't wanna do them and they don't have a desire to do me. Sexual attraction isn't universal, trans-species (in normal people), nor equal opportunity.

Did Miranda's resurrection work damage Shepard's brain so that he gets a hardon for anything and anyone that moves? Really? I think this Shepard needs a chemical castration to keep the crazy trans-species wanderings down.

That doesn't. Comparing horses to these aliens that act very much like humans and mostly look like us too? Atleast for me more LIs doesn't mean I'd bang them all with the same Shepard. If there are too few options Bioware might as well make a canon one. Ok you cleared up some of that with your newer post

Anyways,
The must haves:
Ashley, Kaidan, Liara, Miranda, Tali, Jack, Garrus, Jacob, Thane, Kelly
That's an awful lot already, but I really doubt it stops there so...

The new ones (IMO realistically):
Samara, some new squadmates (1 human male and female atleast), Kasumi, Zaeed

Plus I'd appreciate if there were a couple who aren't in my squad (realistically):
Shiala, Aria, Parasini, Reegar

Modifié par kalle90, 27 octobre 2010 - 05:15 .

[Getorex]

On the subject of sorts...what's up with Jack? Hell, you head down and make a play for her and she jumps you just fine. She has a good time, YOU have a good time. Good times had by all. After that it's all attitude. "You had your fun, now it done" kind of crap.



Oh yeah Jack? YOU had YOUR fun too, as I recall. YOU were moaning and groaning right there with me. I know you got off a couple times so I know this wasn't a "chore" or drudgery but now you have a problem with it and pretend you didn't enjoy the ride too? Don't want to do it again? WTF is the matter with you? Is this another "issue" from your torturous childhood? GET OVER IT.

[Getorex]

kalle90 wrote...

Saibh wrote...
...No, in real life Shepard would have the ability to come on to everyone, but why would they all be universally attracted to Shepard? That doesn't make any sense. They wouldn't be possibilities--Shepard would hit on them and it wouldn't work. While an option like that would go a long way to clearing up "Why doesn't Kasumi like me?!", they can't include every possible scenario of how Shepard might handle her/his crewmates.

That makes sense. It would be helpful to give 1 flirt response with Kasumi and have her turn us down. Would stop the questions atleast.

Getorex wrote...
I love my horses and I like to think that they kinda like me, but I don't wanna do them and they don't have a desire to do me. Sexual attraction isn't universal, trans-species (in normal people), nor equal opportunity.

Did Miranda's resurrection work damage Shepard's brain so that he gets a hardon for anything and anyone that moves? Really? I think this Shepard needs a chemical castration to keep the crazy trans-species wanderings down.

That doesn't. Comparing horses to these aliens that act very much like humans and mostly look like us too? Atleast for me more LIs doesn't mean I'd bang them all with the same Shepard. If there are too few options Bioware might as well make a canon one.

Anyways,
The must haves:
Ashley, Kaidan, Liara, Miranda, Tali, Jack, Garrus, Jacob, Thane, Kelly
That's an awful lot already, but I really doubt it stops there so...

The new ones (IMO realistically):
Samara, some new squadmates (1 human male and female atleast), Kasumi, Zaeed

Plus I'd appreciate if there were a couple who aren't in my squad (realistically):
Shiala, Aria, Parasini, Reegar

My horses: let's say they were capable of speech and thought roughly equal to a human. I STILL wouldn't want a romantic relation with them and they wouldn't want one with me. Different species and all, but I understand your point...

Good portions (certainly the money shot portion) of the romance stuff is not a lot of extra work and diversion from other things. They simply change the cartoon shape filling the partner's role. Like with ME1 it was irrelevant whether you went with Ash or Liara, the roll in the hay was identical - just different colored skin.

It is the dialog differences you have to go to with each character that takes up time and space (and money). They can't really duplicate the same dialog with each character for the LI thread. Plus, to make it even remotely acceptable rather than outright eye-rolling or laughable it would require more dialog and more depth. Hard to do. I can see the dev's point of not wanting to divert all the time and effort into that vs the meat and potatoes of the game mission itself. Fight or f*ck? For the former, do an FPS. For the later, do Secondlife (seriously - theres all the latter you could want there in cartoon form and even the chance of a creepy and obsessive online e-romance to boot). For a good deal of the former and just a bit of the latter, do ME.

Modifié par Getorex, 27 octobre 2010 - 05:23 .

[joey_mork84]

Jack is my favorite romancable character. I love her attitude lol.. And I'm seriously jealous of all her tattoos. Simply put, Jack is hot *drools* lol

[Getorex]

joey_mork84 wrote...

Jack is my favorite romancable character. I love her attitude lol.. And I'm seriously jealous of all her tattoos. Simply put, Jack is hot *drools* lol

I'm fond of the Jack character too. Luscious lips, steaming eyes. Smokin' bod.

I like her attitude BEFORE the playful roll around. After with the standoffishness...not so much.

[kalle90]

Getorex wrote...
It is the dialog differences you have to go to with each character that takes up time and space (and money). They can't really duplicate the same dialog with each character for the LI thread. Plus, to make it even remotely acceptable rather than outright eye-rolling or laughable it would require more dialog and more depth. Hard to do. I can see the dev's point of not wanting to divert all the time and effort into that vs the meat and potatoes of the game mission itself. Fight or f*ck? For the former, do an FPS. For the later, do Secondlife (seriously - theres all the latter you could want there in cartoon form and even the chance of a creepy and obsessive online e-romance to boot). For a good deal of the former and just a bit of the latter, do ME.

True, but: What is done is done.

Bioware can't just make Jack and Thane less important in ME3 than Ash and Garrus are. That would screw those who chose them. The other option is to make everyone matter just as little - not good for anyone. At the same time Bioware has to try to expand and appeal to the ME3 newcomers too.

So we need atleast 9 LIs just to satisfy the fans of ME1 and 2 (Plus Kelly, Samara and Shiala are potential LIs too in one way or another). I also doubt ME3 settles for anything less than 3 new LIs per gender - the bar made with ME2.

The good side is that the dialogue can be done by seperate people and it doesn't have to directly affect the other parts of the game. ME2 used 2 DVDs so they don't have strict space limits. So the biggest issue is probably money.