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[curly haired boy]

Their full canon name is the Vile Batarians.

"Slavery is an integral part of the batarian caste system, despite being
illegal according to Council law, and it is currently unknown how the
batarians maintained standing on the Citadel for so long with slavery
still actively practiced. The custom is so deeply ingrained in batarian
culture that batarians consider the Council's anti-slavery standing to
be prejudicial.
Rogue batarian slave rings are feared throughout the galaxy, especially
among colonists."

"The batarians
have colonized the world, forcing slaves to work in their mines and
agri-habitats. The labor is hot, endless, and backbreaking, even in the
low-G environment. Every horror story told by slaves elsewhere in the
cluster seems to be topped by one from Logasiri. The most famous is that
of the slaver Silparon, who worked to death 420 slaves over the course
of a galactic standard year and ground up their bodies for compost in
his greenhouses."

Clearly they're a blight on the galaxy. In ME3 I'm sure there will be myriad ways to eliminate their race. Obviously the easiest is to point the Reaper fleet in their direction first. But that lacks the personal touch. I'm a fan of marshalling all of my shepard's forces in a Grand Purge of the galaxy. We'll start with their homeworld, but we won't end there. We'll hunt them down until the last of their four-eyed demon spawn lies gutted on the floor.

Who's with me?

Modifié par curly haired boy, 25 octobre 2010 - 04:20 .

[General User]

The batarians have a heap load of bad karma headed their way. I’d like to see some poetic justice myself. Something like… the batarians try and cut a deal with the Reapers (to wipe out those pesky humans of course) and end up as the first race to be indoctrinated/exterminated.

[manwiththemachinegun]

If the Citadel fleet were to.... "acidentally" abandon their fleet defenses around Bataria during the Reaper invasion...

Well, that'd just be terrible now wouldn't it?

[Iyacathor]

I love Batarians, your thread makes me sad. I love Batarians more than any person in the real world, their plight speaks to the darkest depths of my soul. I spend my days in agony waiting for the sweet nights when I can once again be whisked away by my dreams to the lands where the Batarians roam free. Their eyes are enchanting, mesmerizing even, and I spend hours just gazing into their liquid depths hoping only for their acknowledgment. My greatest dream for Mass Effect 3 is to kill Commander Shepard and all his filthy crew for their opposition of such a noble and beautriful species as the Batarians. I leave my Shepard to die, over and over every time he encounters a Batarian in Mass Effect just so I can heal the hurt that being aggressive to a single Batarian brings me.



DOWN WITH THE COUNCIL AND ITS XENOPHOBIC WAYS! UP WITH BATARIANS, OUR GLORIOUS AND ILLUSTRIOUS LEADERS! MAY THEIR REIGN BE ETERNAL, THEIR JUSTICE SWIFT AND THEIR WRATH EVER-TERRIBLE! KILL ALL THOSE WHO OPPOSE THEIR GLORY!

[LorDC]

Slavery itself isn't a problem in my eyes. But the fact that they are attacking Alliance in Skyllian Verge is enough reason to destroy their civilzation.

[curly haired boy]

Shandepared wrote...

I like batarians.

You, sir! You are a blight!

[LorDC]

Shandepared wrote...

I like batarians.

Seriously? I always thought you were in "human supremacist" group?

[Grand Admiral Cheesecake]

[quote]Shandepared wrote...

I like batariansuote]
Why?
What have they done to deserve your affection?

Modifié par Grand Admiral Cheesecake, 24 octobre 2010 - 08:19 .

[NYG1991]

Yea slavery doesn't bother me all that much. It's the pay and the hours that suck.



It's great exercise though

[Kaiser Shepard]

They are the only race, sans the geth, aware of the greater scheme of things. Although that is only because they have the Leviathan of Dis on their side, whose Word some of them now consider to be truth, such as the so-called "Mad" Prophet on Omega.

[CroGamer002]

Do not support.

[Mindlog]

I hope one of ME3's profound choices will be picking out the prettiest rocks to drop on the Batarian Homeworld.

[CommanderSheperd117]

 hmmm genocide and being able to go to war on a galactic scale in ME3 would be nice. You have to unite all of your army and then you can go to war w/ whatever species, but whatever losses you take is less ships to fight the reapers with.

[Phaedon]

Genocide is not a joking matter.

Also, just because someone's traditions are different than yours, they don't make them bad. Before you say 'Humans would never do that and how can you say that it's not bad' please check feudarchy and failure to pay debts. 'Bad' and 'Good' are human concepts, turians don't even recognize them.

Modifié par Phaedon, 24 octobre 2010 - 08:40 .

[curly haired boy]

Phaedon wrote...

Genocide is not a joking matter.

Also, just because someone's traditions are different than yours, they don't make them bad. Before you say 'Humans would never do that and how can you say that it's not bad' please check feudarchy and failure to pay debts. 'Bad' and 'Good' are human concepts, turians don't even recognize them.

batarians are welcome to enslave and murder their own species.

as soon as they touch ONE HAIR on a human, that's it, it's over.

and they've done a lot more than touching over the years.

[Inquisitor Recon]

"Cheaper labor he said."

"Goddamn terrorist I said."

Zaeed is right.

[General User]

curly haired boy wrote...

Phaedon wrote...

Genocide is not a joking matter.

Also, just because someone's traditions are different than yours, they don't make them bad. Before you say 'Humans would never do that and how can you say that it's not bad' please check feudarchy and failure to pay debts. 'Bad' and 'Good' are human concepts, turians don't even recognize them.

batarians are welcome to enslave and murder their own species.

as soon as they touch ONE HAIR on a human, that's it, it's over.

and they've done a lot more than touching over the years.

I agree. One of the major beefs I have with the Alliance as a whole is that they are not at war with the batarians right now, and as long as a single human remains in batarian custody. Genocide may or may not be on the table in that war (did Sherman have burn Atlanta, so to speak). 
 
From a storytelling perspective I would still like to see the batarians die by their own hand. Hubris and cruelty coming back to bite them.



The batarians are interesting because they are humans, metaphorically (though I guess all aliens in ME are to one extent or another). While humans are continuously seeking to overcome their barbaric past, the batarians seem content to wallow in it. Destroying the batarians could be of tremendously cathartic value for the human race (and the player of ME3).

Modifié par General User, 24 octobre 2010 - 09:07 .

[envoy1978]

Oh yeah - I support this. Curly is always right.

[Grand Admiral Cheesecake]

General User wrote...

curly haired boy wrote...

Phaedon wrote...

Genocide is not a joking matter.

Also, just because someone's traditions are different than yours, they don't make them bad. Before you say 'Humans would never do that and how can you say that it's not bad' please check feudarchy and failure to pay debts. 'Bad' and 'Good' are human concepts, turians don't even recognize them.

batarians are welcome to enslave and murder their own species.

as soon as they touch ONE HAIR on a human, that's it, it's over.

and they've done a lot more than touching over the years.

I agree. One of the major beefs I have with the Alliance as a whole is that they are not at war with the batarians right now, and as long as a single human remains in batarian custody. Genocide may or may not be on the table in that war (did Sherman have burn Atlanta, so to speak). 
 
From a storytelling perspective I would still like to see the batarians die by their own hand. Hubris and cruelty coming back to bite them.



The batarians are interesting because they are humans, metaphorically (though I guess all aliens in ME are to one extent or another). While humans are continuously seeking to overcome their barbaric past, the batarians seem content to wallow in it. Destroying the batarians could be of tremendously cathartic value for the human race (and the player of ME3).

Sherman burning Atlanta wasn't genocide.
It was total war.
The South's infrastructure was allowing it to fight on, so you destroy that infrastructure.

And wiping the Batarians out would only make sense if they were either A) Indoctrinated or still hampering the war effort.

Modifié par Grand Admiral Cheesecake, 24 octobre 2010 - 09:12 .

[Tranceptor]

Phaedon wrote...

Genocide is not a joking matter.

I agree and so promise not to laugh out loud should they be wiped from the galaxy like ***t being rinsed off the bottom of my boot.

I will, however, be doing cartwheels on the inside.

Also, just because someone's traditions are different than yours, they don't make them bad. Before you say 'Humans would never do that and how can you say that it's not bad' please check feudarchy and failure to pay debts.

Humans can be every bit as bad without a doubt and have proven this over and over through history and into the present day. But as a whole, I think that those kinds of humans have become the exception and not the rule. It seems to be the opposite with batarians.

'Bad' and 'Good' are human concepts, turians don't even recognize them.

Good thing Shep isn't a Turian otherwise the whole bad and good argument would be hollow.

Modifié par Tranceptor, 24 octobre 2010 - 09:17 .

[General User]

Grand Admiral Cheesecake wrote...

General User wrote...

curly haired boy wrote...

Phaedon wrote...

Genocide is not a joking matter.

Also, just because someone's traditions are different than yours, they don't make them bad. Before you say 'Humans would never do that and how can you say that it's not bad' please check feudarchy and failure to pay debts. 'Bad' and 'Good' are human concepts, turians don't even recognize them.

batarians are welcome to enslave and murder their own species.

as soon as they touch ONE HAIR on a human, that's it, it's over.

and they've done a lot more than touching over the years.

I agree. One of the major beefs I have with the Alliance as a whole is that they are not at war with the batarians right now, and as long as a single human remains in batarian custody. Genocide may or may not be on the table in that war (did Sherman have burn Atlanta, so to speak). 
 
From a storytelling perspective I would still like to see the batarians die by their own hand. Hubris and cruelty coming back to bite them.



The batarians are interesting because they are humans, metaphorically (though I guess all aliens in ME are to one extent or another). While humans are continuously seeking to overcome their barbaric past, the batarians seem content to wallow in it. Destroying the batarians could be of tremendously cathartic value for the human race (and the player of ME3).

Sherman burning Atlanta wasn't genocide.
It was total war.
The South's infrastructure was allowing it to fight on, so you destroy that infrastructure.

And wiping the Batarians out would only make sense if they were either A) Indoctrinated or still hampering the war effort.

Alas, the perils and pitfalls of RW metaphors have ensnared me once again. Genocide was a poor choice of words to describe Sherman’s “March to the Sea,” perhaps “extreme violence of dubious necessity” would have been a better choice. 

[Grand Admiral Cheesecake]

General User wrote...

Grand Admiral Cheesecake wrote...

General User wrote...

curly haired boy wrote...

Phaedon wrote...

Genocide is not a joking matter.

Also, just because someone's traditions are different than yours, they don't make them bad. Before you say 'Humans would never do that and how can you say that it's not bad' please check feudarchy and failure to pay debts. 'Bad' and 'Good' are human concepts, turians don't even recognize them.

batarians are welcome to enslave and murder their own species.

as soon as they touch ONE HAIR on a human, that's it, it's over.

and they've done a lot more than touching over the years.

I agree. One of the major beefs I have with the Alliance as a whole is that they are not at war with the batarians right now, and as long as a single human remains in batarian custody. Genocide may or may not be on the table in that war (did Sherman have burn Atlanta, so to speak). 
 
From a storytelling perspective I would still like to see the batarians die by their own hand. Hubris and cruelty coming back to bite them.



The batarians are interesting because they are humans, metaphorically (though I guess all aliens in ME are to one extent or another). While humans are continuously seeking to overcome their barbaric past, the batarians seem content to wallow in it. Destroying the batarians could be of tremendously cathartic value for the human race (and the player of ME3).

Sherman burning Atlanta wasn't genocide.
It was total war.
The South's infrastructure was allowing it to fight on, so you destroy that infrastructure.

And wiping the Batarians out would only make sense if they were either A) Indoctrinated or still hampering the war effort.

Alas, the perils and pitfalls of RW metaphors have ensnared me once again. Genocide was a poor choice of words to describe Sherman’s “March to the Sea,” perhaps “extreme violence of dubious necessity” would have been a better choice. 

No Total War fits.
If your foe can still fight on because they have the means to, you simply destroy those means.
It was that or have another year or two of stalemates with thousands of more deaths possible.

[General User]

Very well, I support “Total War” against the batarians. In all fairness, “extreme violence of dubious necessity” is, to my way of thinking, a fine working definition of “Total War.”