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#51
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At least Liara gets *attention*. It's like some other characters never even existed.

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I e-mailed Drew Karpyshyn after the ME: Retribution book came out and asked him about the whole Udina/Anderson Councilor thing. This is what he replied:

My e-mail to him:

"Hello,

I'm reading through your new Mass Effect book. Been
awesome so far, but how come you went with Udina being a councilor and
Anderson an advisor? What if you chose Anderson to be the councilor in
the games? Is what you wrote a retcon?"



His response:

"Sometimes for the novels, certain things have to be "taken for granted" in

order to tell a story. Anderson couldn't just leave if he was on the

Council.



But this isn't really a "ret-con", as there was no established canon in

the first place.



I realize some people get very upset when something is established that

contradicts their personal game experience, and we try to minimize the

impact. But if we want to continue expanding the Mass Effect universe,

there are times when we have to take certain decisions from the game and

go with one alternative over another so we can build on what has happened.



Hopefully the Mass Effect fans will understand our position and not get

too bent out of shape.

Drew"

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Shavon wrote...
And anyone who thinks otherwise is WRONG.

Apparently.


Yeah.

Comic!Liara is a petulant, bratty, temperamental, aggressive and violent teenage girl that is nothing like the considerate, thoughtful, intelligent, methodical and introspective Liara of ME1/ME2/LotSB.

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LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...

Shavon wrote...
And anyone who thinks otherwise is WRONG.

Apparently.


Yeah.

Comic!Liara is a petulant, bratty, temperamental, aggressive and violent teenage girl that is nothing like the considerate, thoughtful, intelligent, methodical and introspective Liara of ME1/ME2/LotSB.


In your opinion. This isn't even defending a character; it's turning into a pissing match about who is correct. 

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Maybe he becomes defacto councilor because Anderson decides its:wizard: time to kick some ass.

Modifié par casedawgz, 25 octobre 2010 - 08:22 .


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casedawgz wrote...

Maybe he becomes defacto councilor because Anderson decides its:wizard: time to kick some ass.


See my post above.

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LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...

Shavon wrote...
And anyone who thinks otherwise is WRONG.

Apparently.


Yeah.

Comic!Liara is a petulant, bratty, temperamental, aggressive and violent teenage girl that is nothing like the considerate, thoughtful, intelligent, methodical and introspective Liara of ME1/ME2/LotSB.


Each to their own, you've got your own interpretations

Hows about we stay on topic, since this thread has had some interesting points

Modifié par NamiraWilhelm, 25 octobre 2010 - 08:26 .


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Well, I for one, like the Mass Effect comics, as do many others. Perhps some of us are 'sheep' or too easily pleased, but that is better than being butthurt over everything little thing that doesn't turn out the way some fans expected.

Can't wait to read this comic, as well. If others expect more "redemption" quality, then don't waste the money. Simple enough.


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fortunesque wrote...

LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...

Shavon wrote...
And anyone who thinks otherwise is WRONG.

Apparently.


Yeah.

Comic!Liara is a petulant, bratty, temperamental, aggressive and violent teenage girl that is nothing like the considerate, thoughtful, intelligent, methodical and introspective Liara of ME1/ME2/LotSB.


In your opinion. This isn't even defending a character; it's turning into a pissing match about who is correct. 


Pissing contest. Great idea of settling disputes Fort Image IPB 

That actually seems the best way to sort debates like this

Modifié par NamiraWilhelm, 25 octobre 2010 - 08:28 .


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If purchasers of the comics feel like voicing their distaste for how Redemption went, I don't see what is wrong with that.

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DaBigDragon wrote...

casedawgz wrote...

Maybe he becomes defacto councilor because Anderson decides its:wizard: time to kick some ass.


See my post above.


Ugh. Stomp on all my dreams of shooting mercenaries with Keith David :(

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DaBigDragon wrote...

I e-mailed Drew Karpyshyn after the ME: Retribution book came out and asked him about the whole Udina/Anderson Councilor thing. This is what he replied:

My e-mail to him:

"Hello,

I'm reading through your new Mass Effect book. Been
awesome so far, but how come you went with Udina being a councilor and
Anderson an advisor? What if you chose Anderson to be the councilor in
the games? Is what you wrote a retcon?"



His response:

"Sometimes for the novels, certain things have to be "taken for granted" in

order to tell a story. Anderson couldn't just leave if he was on the

Council.



But this isn't really a "ret-con", as there was no established canon in

the first place.



I realize some people get very upset when something is established that

contradicts their personal game experience, and we try to minimize the

impact. But if we want to continue expanding the Mass Effect universe,

there are times when we have to take certain decisions from the game and

go with one alternative over another so we can build on what has happened.



Hopefully the Mass Effect fans will understand our position and not get

too bent out of shape.

Drew"


Oh wow, so I take it this means that the books don't fit in with all playthroughs and that they can't explain it away by saying Anderson stepped down after ME2...

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NamiraWilhelm wrote...


Pissing contest. I like your way of settling disputes Fort Image IPB 

That actually seems the best way to sort debates like this


It puts females at quite the disadvantage though :unsure:

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fortunesque wrote...

NamiraWilhelm wrote...


Pissing contest. I like your way of settling disputes Fort Image IPB 

That actually seems the best way to sort debates like this


It puts females at quite the disadvantage though :unsure:


Not me Image IPB Its a little messy, but possible

#65
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NamiraWilhelm wrote...

fortunesque wrote...

NamiraWilhelm wrote...


Pissing contest. I like your way of settling disputes Fort Image IPB 

That actually seems the best way to sort debates like this


It puts females at quite the disadvantage though :unsure:


Not me Image IPB Its a little messy, but possible


We... just went there... didn't we? :?

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AwesomeName wrote...

DaBigDragon wrote...

I e-mailed Drew Karpyshyn after the ME: Retribution book came out and asked him about the whole Udina/Anderson Councilor thing. This is what he replied:

My e-mail to him:

"Hello,

I'm reading through your new Mass Effect book. Been
awesome so far, but how come you went with Udina being a councilor and
Anderson an advisor? What if you chose Anderson to be the councilor in
the games? Is what you wrote a retcon?"



His response:

"Sometimes for the novels, certain things have to be "taken for granted" in

order to tell a story. Anderson couldn't just leave if he was on the

Council.



But this isn't really a "ret-con", as there was no established canon in

the first place.



I realize some people get very upset when something is established that

contradicts their personal game experience, and we try to minimize the

impact. But if we want to continue expanding the Mass Effect universe,

there are times when we have to take certain decisions from the game and

go with one alternative over another so we can build on what has happened.



Hopefully the Mass Effect fans will understand our position and not get

too bent out of shape.

Drew"


Oh wow, so I take it this means that the books don't fit in with all playthroughs and that they can't explain it away by saying Anderson stepped down after ME2...


That's how I understand it, yeah.

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rynluna wrote...

If purchasers of the comics feel like voicing their distaste for how Redemption went, I don't see what is wrong with that.


Yeah, but their opinions shouldn't be called wrong if the liked it.

Anyways, I kind of wish the art was a bit better. Seems little cheat and rushed, but then again, it's free.

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rynluna wrote...

If purchasers of the comics feel like voicing their distaste for how Redemption went, I don't see what is wrong with that.


Shouldn't the same be said for those who actually liked the comic?

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@ Fort



Now im just confused. But im gonna say.... yes. Yes we did.

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DaBigDragon wrote...

AwesomeName wrote...

DaBigDragon wrote...
(snip)


Oh wow, so I take it this means that the books don't fit in with all playthroughs and that they can't explain it away by saying Anderson stepped down after ME2...


That's how I understand it, yeah.


If that's the case, then Retribution could've never happened in my game is what he's saying. 

But his reasons don't work. Anderson quits. That's the easiest way to get around that. Is it stupid for a Councilor to quit because he wants to stop a Cerberus? Maybe. But it still works. It still just seems like he just didn't realized he solved his own problem, but created another one.  

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fortunesque wrote...

In your opinion. This isn't even defending a character; it's turning into a pissing match about who is correct. 


Of course. My views regarding the comic are subjective. Where did I state otherwise?

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Shavon wrote...
Shouldn't the same be said for those who actually liked the comic?


Of course.  What I'm trying to say is that Bioware is a company that should be able to take criticism for their games and other media as well.

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LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...

fortunesque wrote...

In your opinion. This isn't even defending a character; it's turning into a pissing match about who is correct. 


Of course. My views regarding the comic are subjective. Where did I state otherwise?


Here.

LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...

Shavon wrote...
And anyone who thinks otherwise is WRONG.

Apparently.


Yeah.



#74
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NamiraWilhelm wrote...

fortunesque wrote...

NamiraWilhelm wrote...


Pissing contest. I like your way of settling disputes Fort Image IPB 

That actually seems the best way to sort debates like this


It puts females at quite the disadvantage though :unsure:


Not me Image IPB Its a little messy, but possible


I remember this one party... eh, nevermind.

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LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...

Of course. My views regarding the comic are subjective. Where did I state otherwise?


LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...

Shavon wrote...
And anyone who thinks otherwise is WRONG.

Apparently.


Yeah.

Comic!Liara is a petulant, bratty, temperamental, aggressive and violent teenage girl that is nothing like the considerate, thoughtful, intelligent, methodical and introspective Liara of ME1/ME2/LotSB.


Im guessing there lol

edit: Ninja'd Image IPB

Modifié par NamiraWilhelm, 25 octobre 2010 - 08:40 .