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[ThisIsMadness91]

So is Pallin dead, or under arrest?

[Mr. MannlyMan]

Samuel L Shepard wrote...

fortunesque wrote...

auberonh wrote...

It's kind of strange though, because it seems like hardly anyone who played ME 1 would choose Udian unless they wanted to max out on Renegade points. Anderson helps you no matter what and Udina treats you like a jerk.

It is odd, but that's the way they did it. Maybe we'll find out why later...

And congrats on getting ME1. You have purchased a spectacular game

I think what the writers want by making Udina councillor is that it will add more drama and confrontation in ME3 and maybe set up missions trying to convince people about the reapers than if you had Anderson as councillor or something along those lines. 

This is my thought as well.

It also sets him up as an antagonist for ME3, which is a good move IMO (despite my wanting to keep Anderson in power). Udina is a hated character, and he is fairly familiar to players who completed ME1 and ME2; having him return as a vindictive Councillor will make us veteran ME fans go "Ah ****, this guy NEEDs to die now".

Now, how about a comic that tells us about how Udina became an ambassador on the Citadel? TIM is being given an origins comic, so why not Udina?

[TMA LIVE]

Samuel L Shepard wrote...

fortunesque wrote...

auberonh wrote...

It's kind of strange though, because it seems like hardly anyone who played ME 1 would choose Udian unless they wanted to max out on Renegade points. Anderson helps you no matter what and Udina treats you like a jerk.

It is odd, but that's the way they did it. Maybe we'll find out why later...

And congrats on getting ME1. You have purchased a spectacular game

I think what the writers want by making Udina councillor is that it will add more drama and confrontation in ME3 and maybe set up missions trying to convince people about the reapers than if you had Anderson as councillor or something along those lines. 

It seems that way, since...

SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS

It seems someone is replacing the higher ups on the Citadel with humans, with Udina as official Councilor, and Bailey as the new executor and Commander. It's possible someone kicked Anderson off from Councilor before Retribution. Cerberus maybe?

Modifié par TMA LIVE, 26 octobre 2010 - 12:21 .

[kidbd15]

Even though Anderson was my choice, I'd rather them make the books established canon and have Udina as Councilor. It would make the ME universe a little bit more established and easier to build on. IMO building massively upon the ME universe is more important than Anderson being councilor.



BUT, if other important decisions were removed, then no, that would not be good (such as Rachni and people dying).

[Emperor Mars]

"Councilor Udina" What kind of happy horse**** is this?!

[Getorex]

Brodyaha wrote...

Maestro975 wrote...

I'm guessing this all has to do with Thane's loyalty mission:


If Shep failed to stop Kolyat (Thane's son) from killing Talid (corrupt turian politician), or simply didn't undertake the mission at all (or didn't even recruit Thane to begin with), then Kolyat kills Talid, Talid becomes a martyr for the anti-human movement. If Talid was saved, then he becomes more powerful, the fact that a human saved him doesn't matter, because his anti-human stance is good business. Either way, anti-human sentiment becomes a problem. TIM gives Elias Kelham political support to counter-balance the growing alien influence (as hinted at the end of the mission). Udina is dirty, and working with Kelham somehow. They decide that Executor Pallin, as an alien, is a threat, so they set him up, so a human Executor (Bailey) can take over and clean house.

That.....would work really awesomely.

Well, except...I am just now finishing a new playthrough of ME 1 and 2 (halfway through suicide mission at suicidal difficulty). I goofed doing Thane's loyalty mission and lost the target and couldn't get to him in time, Kolyat shot him and...it resets to the beginning to try again. There is no letting Kolyat kill anyone IF you actually start the loyalty mission. I believe you would have to refuse to do it at all to get your outcome.

Just sayin.

By the way, suicidal difficulty isn't really suicidal. It is actually what the hardened level (or whatever the level beneath suicidal is) should be. I've found only a few portions of a few missions that were fairly difficult at suicidal difficulty (Freedom's Progress final fight, a portion of Mordin's recruitment mission, and a couple others). That and choosing Garrus and Thane to go with you during at least the middle portion of the suicide mission is not so great a team combo.

One final note...I don't get the love of Garrus, at least in ME1. It had been a while since I played it and so had forgotten but Garrus dies the quickest of any teammate I have with me on any mission until rather late in ME1. I mean, even with Tali with me early it was inevitably Garrus who I kept expending meds on to resuscitate during combat. Rice paper armor, poor judgement (racing out into heavy gunfire, screw the cover) means one swift Turian fatality.

[SagaciousTien]

The new comic is good. I love the fact that we're with Bailey for now - I've got a strong feeling he'll take a part in Mass Effect 3. Possibly as a love interest/ squad member. Surprised I didn't see this written on the ME Wiki yet.

[The_Numerator]

Fracking Cylons...

I mean, what?

Modifié par The_Numerator, 26 octobre 2010 - 04:29 .

[PROKNIFER69]

GAH! Damn these incessant updates raising my hopes for dlc then dashing them violently against a brick wall of sadface

atleast its something im interested in.

[Ulathar]

Comic looks pretty good so far and I like the setting/beginning of the story. This could be quite awesome.

[DaBigDragon]

Just read the rest of the comic using that URL trick.

VERY interesting. So, Bailey's the new Executor for C-Sec for ME3.

What was that info that Pallin wanted off the datapad I wonder? It was never explained.

[NamiraWilhelm]

DaBigDragon wrote...

Just read the rest of the comic using that URL trick.

VERY interesting. So, Bailey's the new Executor for C-Sec for ME3.

What was that info that Pallin wanted off the datapad I wonder? It was never explained.

Ahhh cheers i hadnt read it yet  why did i come back here before i did

[Criz]

getting a bit off the topic concerning whether Udina should be Councilor or not...

next time give the comic artist and colourists proper reference material, because the look of the turian changes from what the councillor lookes like to Pallin and back

¬_¬

[RiouHotaru]

ThisIsMadness91 wrote...

So is Pallin dead, or under arrest?

The comic seems to imply Bailey shot him fatally, but I don't buy it.  Pallin was a rather important character in Retribution, seeing as he helped execute the plan to remove Cerberus from the Citadel.  Also, I can't see Bailey getting off the hook so easily as the comic implies if Pallin is dead.  I mean, corrupt or not, killing your boss, especilly a police officer?  That's a serious thing.  Unless Udina pulled every string in the book...

I dunno, I liked Pallin a lot, him dying like that seems cheap and ill-thought out.  How was a 30-year veteran who played by-the-book (Even his officers say as such about him!) suddenly going dirty?  It makes no sense whatsoever.  Unless this is a lead-in to a DLC of some kind, I'm quite pissed.

[masterkajo]

Will this comic somehow be available to either download or as a comic book? Just my collector instincts tingling

Modifié par masterkajo, 26 octobre 2010 - 11:14 .

[PARAGON87]

RiouHotaru wrote...

How was a 30-year veteran who played by-the-book (Even his officers say as such about him!) suddenly going dirty?  It makes no sense whatsoever.  Unless this is a lead-in to a DLC of some kind, I'm quite pissed.

This.  A hundred times this.

[Gibb_Shepard]

By the looks of it, Palin turns out to be a dirty cop, something that is completely against his character, shown in ME1 and Retribution. It seems Mac Walters has once again gotten a character and given him/her a complete retcon. Nice.

[Paladin Latham]

Default Shepard is lame. His decisions are the worst.

[AkaTenar]

Blast-it-all it's tomorrow and I want to read the rest.  Who do I need to ummm..  lightly tap with my shoe to get to see it?

[LiquidGrape]

Is it just me, or is this the ugliest comic ever conceived?

[Pacifien]

LiquidGrape wrote...
Is it just me, or is this the ugliest comic ever conceived?

It's not pretty. Or well laid out. And the colors are dull. The writing is stilted. It's pretty much everything I expect from a franchise comic.

[TMA LIVE]

Pacifien wrote...

LiquidGrape wrote...
Is it just me, or is this the ugliest comic ever conceived?

It's not pretty. Or well laid out. And the colors are dull. The writing is stilted. It's pretty much everything I expect from a franchise comic.

Plus, it's free. Thus it's cheap.

Modifié par TMA LIVE, 26 octobre 2010 - 03:08 .

[Ryzaki]

Pacifien wrote...

LiquidGrape wrote...
Is it just me, or is this the ugliest comic ever conceived?

It's not pretty. Or well laid out. And the colors are dull. The writing is stilted. It's pretty much everything I expect from a franchise comic.

The bolded is my biggest problem. Especially considering how much better ME games are written compared to them. I could understand the other three but storyline? Come on now...<_<