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[Eradyn]

Sure it's an interesting quote...but you first need substance and a solid foundation for your stances and arguments before anyone can begin to use you to keep anyone else straight. I reiterate: these are BW's characters. They made them, they have story archs for them, etc. When a character has a solid foundation of development that we can draw from, then we can help keep BW straight because we are aware of what they have revealed. Such sources for Pallin are very sparse as his development is not deep or great; it's kind of hard to keep them straight when we know so little. And so we must defer to BW.

I think it also bears stating that what we keep them straight with is what is in the final product. I read that interview and it is NOT about us telling them about their characters. It is about our wiki reminding them about what made the final cut.

Modifié par Eradyn, 26 octobre 2010 - 07:03 .

[Arbalest7]

I don't see what the problem is the comic hints pretty heavily that Palin was set-up and that Udina is up to something. Look I picked Anderson as Councilor myself but I can understand why they either reworked/retconned in Udina, it opens up story possibilities with the Council that would not be possible with Anderson. Part of the current trend seems to be isolating Shepard from any political organization. Wouldn't be surprised if the opening of ME3 had Udina/Council declaring Shepard rogue.

[DaBigDragon]

If anything, at the very least, this sets up a side quest for ME3 where we have to find out how and why Pallin was set up.

[mopotter]

Shavon wrote...

Well, at the risk of sounding like a broken record. It's a comic book. People shouldn't expect Shakespeare. I'm not saying Liara's characterization was flawless, but I never thought it was that bad to begin with.

Also, the comic is blamed for the beginning of Liara's ooc-ness, or renegade side. That was my angle with this.

I'll join the ranks of people who liked the comic books.  I like books with more depth and story, but as a comic book I enjoyed it.   

[Wowlock]

I hope we get a quest to kick Udina's ass....



Just Sayin'

[Chris Priestly]

Have you seen that more pages are available on USA Today? That Captain Bailey is turnign out to be quite the badass.

[Eradyn]

@LIAM: Eep, sorry. Wasn't trying to argue either.



I enjoyed the plot elements the comic has opened up. I want to go in there and find out just what was going on. I'm also not sure about having my Shepard trust anyone but herself and her crew in ME3.



Pure ME3 speculation: I can see this opening up, say, a mechanic of "who do you trust"? Say we need to build alliances but we can't be sure who's really on the up-and-up and who's angling for what. Yay, the fun of politics (not really a "yay" ). We're being shown by BW that NO FACTION is really entirely trustworthy or good.



Cerberus: ...It's Cerberus. Plus TIM's power-hungry ways.

Alliance: Riddled with Cerberus ops...who can you trust?

Council: Crazy **** going down, ala Pallin's setup and Udina's maneuvering.

[Eradyn]

Bleh. Sorry for the doublepost...guess I shouldn't be doing this on a phone.^^;

Modifié par Eradyn, 26 octobre 2010 - 08:27 .

[RiouHotaru]

Chris Priestly wrote...

Have you seen that more pages are available on USA Today? That Captain Bailey is turnign out to be quite the badass.

Haha, most of us read the whole thing yesterday Chris, but thanks.

[Sylvanas]

Chris Priestly wrote...

Have you seen that more pages are available on USA Today? That Captain Bailey is turnign out to be quite the badass.

The bastard murdered pallin.

[Nyx2k]

Okay, aside from the story, which was great, I thought about something. Make sure to read the full post, or you might not quite get what im up to.
You all say that this comic plays after ME2. But in the end Bailey is promoted to commander. And if you remember Shepards line in Talis loyalty mission: "I actually never got promoted" upon the Quarians calling him Captain, that would mean, that the story takes place in the time between ME and ME2. As we all now Bailey is Captain in ME2, so he got another promotion from Commander to Captain later on.
This would be the logical conclusion, but there is a flaw in it.
But now if we look at the first page of the comic it clearly states Bailey as Captain. Now who messed up the ranks? Or does C-Sec have a different rank system? I know that Captain stands above Commander, but that doesnt quite make sense.

See what I mean? Anyone else notice that?

Modifié par DJ_D, 26 octobre 2010 - 10:02 .

[FuturePasTimeCE]

Chris Priestly wrote...

Have you seen that more pages are available on USA Today? That Captain Bailey is turnign out to be quite the badass.

are they going to add more?:happy:

[Arbalest7]

The story takes place in 2186 and ME2 takes place in 2185. Also Shepard was referring to Naval ranks (Captain is the naval equivalent to a Colonel), C-Sec is a police force and, in the United States at least, Commander/Inspector is two ranks above Captain.

[Nyx2k]

Oh, okay. Thanks for cearing that up for me. I gotta admit, I have absolutely no clue about military or Law enforcement ranks.

[Getorex]

DJ_D wrote...

Okay, aside from the story, which was great, I thought about something. Make sure to read the full post, or you might not quite get what im up to.
You all say that this comic plays after ME2. But in the end Bailey is promoted to commander. And if you remember Shepards line in Talis loyalty mission: "I actually never got promoted" upon the Quarians calling him Captain, that would mean, that the story takes place in the time between ME and ME2. As we all now Bailey is Captain in ME2, so he got another promotion from Commander to Captain later on.
This would be the logical conclusion, but there is a flaw in it.
But now if we look at the first page of the comic it clearly states Bailey as Captain. Now who messed up the ranks? Or does C-Sec have a different rank system? I know that Captain stands above Commander, but that doesnt quite make sense.

See what I mean? Anyone else notice that?

It's a nit but I suspect the Bioware/EA games writers, to a man, haven't any military experience amongst them. That being the case, they may not quite get military rank structure. OR you could give them more credit and realise that civilian police ranks are a f*cking joke and in no way, shape, or form match up with military ranks. There's virtually no comparison. A police sgt is NOT the same as a military sgt. A police Lt is nothing at all comparable to a military Lt and so forth. Same with captain. Those civil ranks are divorced from military ranks. You do NOT go from Sgt to Lt and other officer ranks in the military without a LOT of paperwork, special officer training, and a college degree. Amongst civil cops, there's no barrier between Sgt and officer ranks, just time and experience.

[NKKKK]

Um, why is Udina councilor instead of a general position of power which doesn't need to be named to give leeway to what his role is?



WTF BIOWARE? DO YOU CARE ABOUT OUR CHOICES?

[Chala]

NKKKK wrote...

Um, why is Udina councilor instead of a general position of power which doesn't need to be named to give leeway to what his role is?

WTF BIOWARE? DO YOU CARE ABOUT OUR CHOICES?

In one of the books is explained what happened with Anderson and why he left the charge....

[RyuAzai]

I am curious, since Udina is looking to be the canon pick.



Is the council all human? Or where they saved? I am curious about that since in ME2 the canon was it was a all human council

[wolfsite]

RyuAzai wrote...

I am curious, since Udina is looking to be the canon pick.

Is the council all human? Or where they saved? I am curious about that since in ME2 the canon was it was a all human council

If it is an all human council then Bioware canon for ME3 is gonna be real ugly.  I played one run in ME2 with human council and everywhere I went all non-human races were very hostile and based on the news reports you here the tourians and Salarians are building up there militaries for I'm guessing a is a takeover scheme.

Main problem with this scenario is that if all the races fo to war over who is in charge they are pretty much doing the reapers work for them, what's the point of being the hero to save the day when everyone is just gonna kill each other.

[Maestro975]

Getorex wrote...

DJ_D wrote...

Okay, aside from the story, which was great, I thought about something. Make sure to read the full post, or you might not quite get what im up to.
You all say that this comic plays after ME2. But in the end Bailey is promoted to commander. And if you remember Shepards line in Talis loyalty mission: "I actually never got promoted" upon the Quarians calling him Captain, that would mean, that the story takes place in the time between ME and ME2. As we all now Bailey is Captain in ME2, so he got another promotion from Commander to Captain later on.
This would be the logical conclusion, but there is a flaw in it.
But now if we look at the first page of the comic it clearly states Bailey as Captain. Now who messed up the ranks? Or does C-Sec have a different rank system? I know that Captain stands above Commander, but that doesnt quite make sense.

See what I mean? Anyone else notice that?

It's a nit but I suspect the Bioware/EA games writers, to a man, haven't any military experience amongst them. That being the case, they may not quite get military rank structure.

More than likely, it's the Battlestar Galactica influence. In BG, Commander was higher than a Captain, hence, Commander Adama outranked his son, a Captain.

[Julie the bogan]

Yeah! a Mass Effect fix, totally sucks about Palin though, he was right to question everything about humans. Hopefully Baily won't fall into Udina's trap and be more good-cop over bad-cop I can't wait to find out more of this story.

[MisterDyslexo]

I wonder if Kolyat will fit into all of this

[Getorex]

MisterDyslexo wrote...

I wonder if Kolyat will fit into all of this

Thane bites the dust from his mamby-pamby disease. Kolyat comes along to join the party.