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[Asheer_Khan]

One more reason to really wait with ME 3 purchase at PLAYER based reviews... because if ME 3 will become another "Humanity Uber Alles" crazines then i will really stop bothering with this particular branch of Bioware...

[Killjoy Cutter]

Asheer_Khan wrote...

One more reason to really wait with ME 3 purchase at PLAYER based reviews... because if ME 3 will become another "Humanity Uber Alles" crazines then i will really stop bothering with this particular branch of Bioware...

I always wait until after player reviews.  It's not worth the risk.

[_purifico_]

Where in that article does it says that Pallin is a dirty cop? Or did I as usual miss something?

[gethspy]

all a ploy by Udina to further increase the Human monopoly of C-sec

[Grisson]

When Anderson quits his desk job in Retribution did anyone else think Anderson for squadmate in ME3, cause I sure did.

And he does quite well for himself in the action scenes.

Modifié par Grisson, 26 octobre 2010 - 04:02 .

[Christmas Ape]

This is an outrage!



How dare they not email you first to ask who you want for human Councilor in your copy of Inquisition!

[GuardianAngel470]

casedawgz wrote...

Nobody expects the spanish inquisition.

I love you.

That is exactly what I thought of when I saw the thread title. Ah, OP, you don't know what it is you missed out on.

[GuardianAngel470]

Grisson wrote...

When Anderson quits his desk job in Retribution did anyone else think Anderson for squadmate in ME3, cause I sure did.

And he does quite well for himself in the action scenes.

Really? Apart from the guy he killed on Omega, he loses every fight.

Except the one against Grayson.

I guess that is an important one huh?  Oh well.

[SagaciousTien]

It's a good comic and I can't wait to read more!

[atheelogos]

The vids that come from the Shadow Broker make more sense now!! God I can't wait to read it.

[atheelogos]

Grisson wrote...

When Anderson quits his desk job in Retribution did anyone else think Anderson for squadmate in ME3, cause I sure did.

And he does quite well for himself in the action scenes.

Well he has an important job to do so I don't think he should leave that unless he has to. And having him under Shepard's command would be.... weird.

[RiouHotaru]

 Changed the original post guys, my nerdraeg is kicking into overdrive now

[Mr. MannlyMan]

Apparently, Drew Karpyshyn told a member of the forums that he set the Councilor canon because it helped to tell a better story.

I'd prefer to think that Anderson got demoted or handed his seat over to Udina sometime between ME2/Retribution or Retribution/Inquisition. The few mentions made about Udina being Councilor in Retribution could easily be explained as either Anderson having been demoted/demoted himself after ME2, or Aria having mixed up the names of Anderson and Udina.

Personally, I can't see Anderson fighting alongside Shepard as a squadmate; I CAN see him being welcomed on to the Normandy SR2 by Shepard as an adviser/XO though. Maybe I couldn't bear to see him serving under the commander, since my Shepard fully respects the former captain.

Then again, Bioware might decide to put both Anderson and Kahlee Sanders on your ship; Kahlee as a science officer, replacing Mordin; and Anderson as an XO/adviser/squadmate. In any case, I'm going to make Udina's life a living hell come ME3.

[Ryzaki]

Ugh. Why give us the choice though? Something like that irks the mess out of me. Our choices already are reduced to cameos and emails. Was it really necessary to screw this one up too?

[RiouHotaru]

AND THEY KILLED PALLIN DAMMNIT >8|

[TheBlackBaron]

Ryzaki wrote...

Ugh. Why give us the choice though? Something like that irks the mess out of me. Our choices already are reduced to cameos and emails. Was it really necessary to screw this one up too?

I'm more than willing to sacrifice a little choice - and let's face it, as they go, this one was really rather inconsequential in its effects on the game - if it means a better and more cohesive story.

[Ryzaki]

TheBlackBaron wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...

Ugh. Why give us the choice though? Something like that irks the mess out of me. Our choices already are reduced to cameos and emails. Was it really necessary to screw this one up too?

I'm more than willing to sacrifice a little choice - and let's face it, as they go, this one was really rather inconsequential in its effects on the game - if it means a better and more cohesive story.

I fail to see how the difference between placing Anderson and Udina would be inconsequential. Sure it may have meant nothing for Shep but for the Citadel and human relations it could've made a great deal of difference. 

And if "Better and more cohesive story" means ME2 where I'm being railroaded well I find nothing enjoyable in that. For all their slamming on SquareEnix it seems BW is starting to embrace the whole forced canon and decisions bracket. 

True it's not for everything but why do this in a comic book? Wouldn't it have made more sense to do this at the beginning of ME2 or even ME3? 

Modifié par Ryzaki, 26 octobre 2010 - 05:25 .

[Dave of Canada]

I'm getting tired of this whole "Anderson quit his job" thing.



He's an Admiral in Retribution, he's never an Admiral if he's Councilor. They are only working with the default ME2 storyline where no matter what, Udina is Councilor.

[The_Numerator]

I'm not entirely sure I understand the nature of the present disagreement here:

Is it that people don't like this notion of "choice" being taken away, or is it that they don't like the ostensibly inescapable implication that there is in fact a "canonical" Shepard, and that he or she is completely mental?

Or is it an Anderson/Udina love/hate thing?

Edit: Typo. Left out "ostensibly". Major structural error that changed the entire phrase. Whoops. My bad.

Modifié par The_Numerator, 26 octobre 2010 - 06:40 .

[Ryzaki]

The_Numerator wrote...

I'm not entirely sure I understand the nature of the present disagreement here:

Is it that people don't like this notion of "choice" being taken away, or is it that they don't like the inescapable implication that there is in fact a "canonical" Shepard, and that he or she is completely mental?

Or is it an Anderson/Udina love/hate thing?

Frankly. I wouldn't care about it being in the comics...but I have a feeling it's going to spill over into ME3. Which would ****** me off. Now if I get ME3 and Anderson's still councilor I won't care. But if he's not...

Yet another reason to prefer DA. At least my choices aren't rendered null in a bloody comic book. <_< 

Edit: Also if you're going to be insistent about telling a story at least have the courtesy to not give the player such an option in the first place unless you're going to follow through with it. 

Modifié par Ryzaki, 26 octobre 2010 - 06:38 .

[Terror_K]

Dave of Canada wrote...

I'm getting tired of this whole "Anderson quit his job" thing.

He's an Admiral in Retribution, he's never an Admiral if he's Councilor. They are only working with the default ME2 storyline where no matter what, Udina is Councilor.

He'd still be an Admiral in either case. The rank doesn't just go away because he's got another job with a title now. Shepard is both a Spectre and a Commander, and Anderson would be both an Admiral and a Councilor. It's just that the Councilor title supercedes the Admiral one.

The whole thing is a massive cop-out though. It was one of the only decisions that seemed to actually matter in ME2 and now it's been erased and replaced without player choice. I try to tell myself that Anderson stepped down somewhere between ME2 and Retribution, since he was unhappy in his work, but that doesn't erase the fact that it's a terrible move on BioWare's part and that I feel shafted by it. It's bad enough that most of the decisions you made that were claimed to be important made next to no real difference, but to take away one of the few that did is a travesty in my books, considering what the ME "trilogy" was supposed to be.

[atheelogos]

TheBlackBaron wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...

Ugh. Why give us the choice though? Something like that irks the mess out of me. Our choices already are reduced to cameos and emails. Was it really necessary to screw this one up too?

I'm more than willing to sacrifice a little choice - and let's face it, as they go, this one was really rather inconsequential in its effects on the game - if it means a better and more cohesive story.

what u said

[Dave of Canada]

Terror_K wrote...

He'd still be an Admiral in either case. The rank doesn't just go away because he's got another job with a title now. Shepard is both a Spectre and a Commander, and Anderson would be both an Admiral and a Councilor. It's just that the Councilor title supercedes the Admiral one.

He got promoted to Admiral and became Udina's puppet with Councilor Udina, however when he's chosen to Councilor he isn't made an Admiral and he quit the Alliance altogether.

Modifié par Dave of Canada, 26 octobre 2010 - 06:41 .

[Spectre_907]

The_Numerator wrote...

I'm not entirely sure I understand the nature of the present disagreement here:

Is it that people don't like this notion of "choice" being taken away, or is it that they don't like the inescapable implication that there is in fact a "canonical" Shepard, and that he or she is completely mental?

Or is it an Anderson/Udina love/hate thing?

Canonical Shepard. Another concern is how it might effect ME3 if Anderson must be the advisor in order for the story of Retribution to continue.