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[Tyrannosaurus Rex]

kraidy1117 wrote...

chris025657 wrote...

This comic reads like a bad fanfic. I mean:

Palin: Nobody decides my fate but me. Nobody.

Baley: Fate is a ****, executor. 

At least it's beter written then Redemption

Which doesn't mean much when you think about it.

"EDIT" Haven't read the last part of the new comic yet, so i'm reserving jugdement about it.

Modifié par Lizardviking, 26 octobre 2010 - 03:02 .

[Nekemekem]

kraidy1117 wrote...

Nekemekem wrote...

The major WTF about this tripe is how poorly written it is, and I can't believe BW would even want to associate themselves with this. I had no issues with Bailey, he seemed like a decent, regular Joe Cop , doing his part for station security. I'm sure the turian founded massive security force are just gonna sit by and think this was totally a-okay too.

The artists references the wrong turian.
Pallin was completely defiled.
I believe you have already written in Chellick as Executor as indeed heard after the Garrus loyalty mission through a broadcast by Emily Wong.
I would at this point not even be surprised to see Michael Bay was involved in the writing for ME3 if this is where we're headed. Swooosh!

Those files in ME2 are non canon, read retribution. Also the writting was good. It was a good little read and intresting.

No no, I have read Retribution - but how are the actual game files in the non-patched untouched game not canon? The games never stated Pallin was dead, I was hoping he just retired (becasue Pallin was a giant fave and him dead = sadface) when I happened to hear that broadcast on the Citadel saying Chellick was the current Executor. Pallin's mention was both uplifting and awesome in Retribution, but still left me slightly "???" over the whole Chellick thing. Highly confusing. C-Sec could of course for all we know have more than the one Executor, as suggested already. Which I hope in the case, and not just a major "OH RIGHT THAT'S WHAT WE WROTE - WHOOPSIE!" moment.

Modifié par Nekemekem, 26 octobre 2010 - 03:02 .

[TMA LIVE]

Costin_Razvan wrote...

If you're being setup, and Bailey's going to arrested you anyways, you know you're going to be lockup forever simply because that's why this is happening. If you don't want that to happen, you have to refuse being arrested.

I ain't arguing your logic for him doing that. However I am arguing the point that Palin was an honest man who fought against corruption at every turn.

By doing what he does in the comic, he proves he was not an honest, uncorrupted person.

I think he was targeted as someone to setup for the murder of those C-Sec officers was because he helped take down Cerberus officers in the Alliance behind everyone's back with the help of Anderson. That's what made him a target to be setup.

[Zulu_DFA]

Costin_Razvan wrote...

If you're being setup, and Bailey's going to arrested you anyways, you know you're going to be lockup forever simply because that's why this is happening. If you don't want that to happen, you have to refuse being arrested.

I ain't arguing your logic for him doing that. However I am arguing the point that Palin was an honest man who fought against corruption at every turn.

By doing what he does in the comic, he proves he was not an honest, uncorrupted person.

C'mon. It's clear that Cerbs shadow-broker'd Pallin with smth on that datapad so craftly, that he went all nuts and got himself killed.

Serves him right, though.

Now Harkin may have a party!

[Costin_Razvan]

C'mon. It's clear that Cerbs shadow-broker'd Pallin with smth on that datapad so craftly, that he went all nuts and got himself killed.

Serves him right, though.

Now Harkin may have a party!

Good to see that TIM is still playing the game, and your argument about temporary insanity is the best anyone has presented here.

Palin, by shooting on sight, would have gotten himself removed from his position. Assuming C-Sec does operate like a Police Force.

As for Harkin....ugh. Someone kill him already.

Modifié par Costin_Razvan, 26 octobre 2010 - 03:12 .

[TMA LIVE]

Zulu_DFA wrote...

Costin_Razvan wrote...

If you're being setup, and Bailey's going to arrested you anyways, you know you're going to be lockup forever simply because that's why this is happening. If you don't want that to happen, you have to refuse being arrested.

I ain't arguing your logic for him doing that. However I am arguing the point that Palin was an honest man who fought against corruption at every turn.

By doing what he does in the comic, he proves he was not an honest, uncorrupted person.

C'mon. It's clear that Cerbs shadow-broker'd Pallin with smth on that datapad so craftly, that he went all nuts and got himself killed.

Serves him right, though.

Now Harkin may have a party!

Like hell. You think you're just going to run into a bunch of dead bodies that you killed, who happen to have a datapad with your picture, and bad info on you (which you're only noticing now), right after Bailey shows up, who's also investigating you (and also told to bring his gun), but was not told about these other guys who were investigating?

It was a setup, even Bailey knows this. But Bailey's just going with the flow. And that's why they want him for the job. He can do the dirty work, and be bought at the same time.

Modifié par TMA LIVE, 26 octobre 2010 - 03:14 .

[Ryzaki]

Asheer_Khan wrote...

I won't be surprised at all when in ME 3 will turn out that original Council have "fatal accident" during one of the DA trips and Udina (who conviniently was not present during that trip) sized entire control over new Council...
Walters already proved that to turn this series in another "glory for humanity" bull**** so common in SF universe he is ready to ****** off large part of fanbase...

On the other hand... i no longer care if Udina is Councilor or not... as long as he will stay out of my Shepard's way.

The Council has been in power for thousands of years I'm supposed to believe humanity can take it over just like that? *sighs heavily* Ugh. 

You're right the GFH is going to ****** me off because I'm going to sit there wondering what exactly stopped the Turians, Salarians, etc. etc. from doing the same. 

[TMA LIVE]

Ryzaki wrote...

Asheer_Khan wrote...

I won't be surprised at all when in ME 3 will turn out that original Council have "fatal accident" during one of the DA trips and Udina (who conviniently was not present during that trip) sized entire control over new Council...
Walters already proved that to turn this series in another "glory for humanity" bull**** so common in SF universe he is ready to ****** off large part of fanbase...

On the other hand... i no longer care if Udina is Councilor or not... as long as he will stay out of my Shepard's way.

The Council has been in power for thousands of years I'm supposed to believe humanity can take it over just like that? *sighs heavily* Ugh. 

After the attack with Sov, the Alliance is the only one guarding the Citadel as the main fleet, which makes them the ones with the power. It's like what Roger says in Dawn of the Dead "We got this man! We got this by the ass!"

[Ryzaki]

TMA LIVE wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...

Asheer_Khan wrote...

I won't be surprised at all when in ME 3 will turn out that original Council have "fatal accident" during one of the DA trips and Udina (who conviniently was not present during that trip) sized entire control over new Council...
Walters already proved that to turn this series in another "glory for humanity" bull**** so common in SF universe he is ready to ****** off large part of fanbase...

On the other hand... i no longer care if Udina is Councilor or not... as long as he will stay out of my Shepard's way.

The Council has been in power for thousands of years I'm supposed to believe humanity can take it over just like that? *sighs heavily* Ugh. 

After the attack with Sov, the Alliance is the only one guarding the Citadel as the main fleet, which makes them the ones with the power. It's like what Roger says in Dawn of the Dead "We got this man! We got this by the ass!"

Gah. that makes it even more annoying. If Cerberus is behind this I better be able to kick TIMs ass in ME3. 

[Babli]

I hate comics...

[cachx]

I actually liked this (didn't really  like redemption), despite the ugly art.

+ Udina being set up as a possible villain for ME3
+ Bailey getting into an even more complicated, morally grey position.

That's actually interesting, I don't really understand the negativism here.

Pallin was a likeable but minor character, sad to see him get killed, but look in the bright side, it probably will lead to us getting the chance to personally punch Udina's lights out.

[Costin_Razvan]

Gah. that makes it even more annoying. If Cerberus is behind this I better be able to kick TIMs ass in ME3.

For what exactly? For killing a single Turian, hardly compelling argument.

[Jedi Master of Orion]

If they're going to give us a choice and then immediately make it completely pointless, they might as well make them all pointless and make ME 3 a game with only a default story.

[Ryzaki]

Costin_Razvan wrote...

Gah. that makes it even more annoying. If Cerberus is behind this I better be able to kick TIMs ass in ME3.

For what exactly? For killing a single Turian, hardly compelling argument.

For raping my choices and railroading my game is why. 

And there's a lot more to kick TIMs ass over than just that. 

[Kaiser Shepard]

So, if we have a Cerberus controlled human councilor by the time ME3 starts... do you guys think TIM might personally replace him somewhere during the third game? Councilor Banes does have a nice ring to it.



Give the fact that Aria has aligned herself with him, we might be in for a heap of trouble next game.

[Big I]

Terror_K wrote...

TMA LIVE wrote...

CalJones wrote...

Is this an official comic? Because if so, it goes against canon. One of the dialogue branches you get from the CSEC turian when you enter the Citadel (if you visit Anderson first) has him saying that Chellick is executor now, because Pallin was killed in the geth attack.

That's a cut line on the disc. It's not in the finished game, which makes it not canon.

Yet doesn't Emily Wong refer to Chellick as being "Executor Chellick" in a news report on The Citadel?

If Sidonis lives, Emily Wong will report Chellick as Executor saying Sidonis can't be extradited to Omega for Garrus's dead squad. I haven't read Retribution, but apparently it refers to Pallin as Executor. In this thread it's shown that unused in-game files state that a) Chellick is Executor, and Pallin is dead.

We have two competing canonical versions of who is/was Executor, and it seems from now on they're going to assume that Pallin was always Executor and that Chellick's mention was mistaken in ME2. I would have prefered they go with Chellick, but whatever.

Regarding the Councilor, I hate Udina but if they think they can tell a better story with him as Councilor then so be it. Given that Anderson quit his job in Retribution this is what I assume they were building to anyway.

Over and beyond anything else that's wrong with Inquisition, it says Bailey has been on the Citadel for 20 years. WTH? In the game he tells you that he only moved to the Citadel after the geth attack because C-Sec needed experienced officers and he wanted to give up spacing. How hard is that to keep straight?

[Kasen]

I'm not entirely sure what's going on here at the moment, without going back to read a whole lot of backstory, but this leaves a whole lot more questions than it answers. I am however of the opinion that if soundfiles were not used in the game, they're not canon. I also put game-information over comic or novel information for canon.

Udina is a total weasel, no doubt about that... but I have no issues with them tweaking the choice to make him the Human Councilor if it helps them tell a better story, they even gave Anderson an honorable way out in my opinion.

I'm not sure I understand where this is going yet, but I sense it will probably be part of, or at least mentioned in, some of the bridging DLC to set up ME3. I certainly hope so at least, there's a lot that needs to be cleared up here...

[Inquisitor Recon]

Kaiser Shepard wrote...
So, if we have a Cerberus controlled human councilor by the time ME3 starts... do you guys think TIM might personally replace him somewhere during the third game? Councilor Banes does have a nice ring to it.

Despite how amazingly cool it would be to walk into Anderson/Udina's office, hear TIM's voice and have him spin around to face Shepard in Anderson's old chair, I don't think it would be a very smart move.

Of course the Council probably wouldn't believe you if you told them "You do know that guy is the Illusive Man right?"

[ashwind]

ReconTeam wrote...

Kaiser Shepard wrote...
So, if we have a Cerberus controlled human councilor by the time ME3 starts... do you guys think TIM might personally replace him somewhere during the third game? Councilor Banes does have a nice ring to it.

Despite how amazingly cool it would be to walk into Anderson/Udina's office, hear TIM's voice and have him spin around to face Shepard in Anderson's old chair, I don't think it would be a very smart move.

Of course the Council probably wouldn't believe you if you told them "You do know that guy is the Illusive Man right?"

Turian Councillor: Ah yes~ "The Illusive Man". You mental state is clearly even more vulnerable than I thought, Shepard.

[Tyrannosaurus Rex]

Just read the last part..

First off: Poor Pallin, seemed pretty obvious that Udina set him up.

Second: If the alien council is still alive, wouldn't they ask questions? Unless Udina manage to get rid of them too (but that seems highly unlikely)?

Third: Does Udina have any connection to Cerberus? If yes, then why would he undermine Shepard's work against the Reapers?

[Ahriman]

Lizardviking wrote...
First off: Poor Pallin, seemed pretty obvious that Udina set him up.

But why Udina did it? Did Pallin know something or what? Or is it just 9 pages of senseless pictures?

[Tyrannosaurus Rex]

Wizz wrote...

Lizardviking wrote...
First off: Poor Pallin, seemed pretty obvious that Udina set him up.

But why Udina did it? Did Pallin know something or what? Or is it just 9 pages of senseless pictures?

To futher increase humanity's influence on the citadel?

[FuturePasTimeCE]

is there a part 2 or the rest of the comic is done?

[Ahriman]

Lizardviking wrote...

Wizz wrote...

But why Udina did it? Did Pallin know something or what? Or is it just 9 pages of senseless pictures?

To futher increase humanity's influence on the citadel?

I have enough of this Imperium_of_Man crap in ME2. I hope it will be something more complicated.

Modifié par Wizz, 26 octobre 2010 - 05:22 .