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ankuu wrote...

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Isabella looks unfinish to me.
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Her nose looks unfinished.  That might be the weakest nose I have ever seen, and given her angular eyes and strong jaw it's just weird.

If that's Isabela, Isabela needs a stronger nose.


As i said b4, she looks like she is from The Sims 3. From all the presented characters, she is my least favorite looking. I mean, look at Lady Hawke or at Varric! Daaamn <3



Don't listen to all these peeps Bioware, she looks great, don't change a thing!

Modifié par HighlandBerserkr, 27 octobre 2010 - 08:47 .


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HighlandBerserkr wrote...

Don't listen to all these peeps Bioware, she looks great, don't change a thing!

No no - Listen!! She looks like a He! Isabela needs plastic surgery :whistle:

Edit: I mean her face... not the bosom.

Zev: Seeing her face makes me sad... I feel like crying... think she will let me cry in her bosom?

Modifié par ashwind, 27 octobre 2010 - 08:49 .


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Great trailer!

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Thalorin1919 wrote...

Oh man, seriously.

I want all those people that were like - "DA2 is going to fail. Graphics suck, gameplay sucks. Everything is going to suck." to apolgoize right now to Bioware.

Because this trailer was epic.


You know the trailer for The Phantom Meance was epic.

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It establishes visuals, a bit of plot and expectations. It explains a little bit of the framed narrative to uninformed masses. While it might not give value to those who expect gameplay, it's still a valuable trailer for those who were comparing visuals to pictures from ages ago and such.


There is gameplay in there, as you're seeing in-game shots of combat.

If by gameplay someone wants to see a walkthrough of the game in progress, as in a still shot of the screen while someone plays it along with all clicking and GUI menus visible and such, that's something else completely. I have no idea if we're planning something like that. Maybe, but I suspect that's of select interest. Mike would be the person to ask.


For the record, the 'class gameplay trailers' of ME2, narrated by Christina Norman (and featuring exactly that kind of action) were my absolutely favourite part of the stuff leading into the game. I have all of those on my PS3 (which meant remuxing some of them) and do still watch them occasionally... :)

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Looking good there BW. Easy to tell you've got some fixes in. And as DA2 is still in the works I'm sure there's more you'll be doing to it. As far as Isabela, reminds me of some of the actresses in the old pirate films. You know... O'Hara, De Havilland, and there was an Itlaian (or mighta been Sicilian) actress (can't remember her name right now for nothing) Isabela looks like the most. All had strong facial features and didn't take no flak from nobody. Anyway, she looks pretty good to me.

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I don't really want to dissect the video like some here do, let's not forget that we are still 5 months ahead, many things are probably just temporary!

Speaking about the general feeling, it looks interesting. I find the colors somehow strange, though, cannot really focus what bothers me.

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You aren't a pirate unless you have a pirate beard! But really, when I first saw the picture it looked like she had a 5 o'clock shadow.

Anyway, I've put my 2 cents in. Have fun ya'll.

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Modifié par Destructo-Bot, 27 octobre 2010 - 10:03 .


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Y'know, I think Isabela's face looks rather good here:

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Hopefully that shot is a more current one than the closeup, because her face looks a lot better balanced to me.Or it's a better angle or something, I dunno.

Modifié par Anarya, 27 octobre 2010 - 11:05 .


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So, yeah, I really dug Isabela in DAO and was hoping that she would have been explored a bit further (no pun intended), so I'm really happy, but I also really dug her look in the first game (both the face and the ~duster armor), so I'm more than somewhat disappointed in the redesign (I don't think I'm generally averse to change, I just don't think it's an improvement this time... her face seems 'off', and don't really like the scraf, either. The labret can stay, though) :P

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Destructo-Bot wrote...

You aren't a pirate unless you have a pirate beard! But really, when I first saw the picture it looked like she had a 5 o'clock shadow.

Anyway, I've put my 2 cents in. Have fun ya'll.

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All you need now is the Captain Morgan pose and she is set.

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Also, this character between the armoured guards at the top of the stairs.. definitely looks like someone from the Chantry but the guards aren't wearing the same templar armour we see later in the video. Looks somewhat like a villain to me.

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This actually looks to me where Hawke gets accclaimed Champion. The guards have a symbol on their armour that looks like it should be the symbol for Kirkwall and the figure in the middle looks like he is knighting Hawke or something.

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Anarya wrote...

Y'know, I think Isabela's face looks rather good here:

Hopefully that shot is a more current one than the closeup, because her face looks a lot better balanced to me.Or it's a better angle or something, I dunno.

It's mostly the lighting i think. The face has the same odd proportions like the closeup, but because there's deep shadow on the bottom part of the head this is less obvious.

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tmp7704 wrote...

Anarya wrote...

Y'know, I think Isabela's face looks rather good here:

Hopefully that shot is a more current one than the closeup, because her face looks a lot better balanced to me.Or it's a better angle or something, I dunno.

It's mostly the lighting i think. The face has the same odd proportions like the closeup, but because there's deep shadow on the bottom part of the head this is less obvious.


Yeah it's the lighting and angle of the shot. Like the pic of LadyHawke and her double chin :pinched:
Also, one of the devs said that weird-looking faces in the trailer are largely due to the facial expressions being unfinished and unpolished.

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Anarya wrote...

Y'know, I think Isabela's face looks rather good here:

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Hopefully that shot is a more current one than the closeup, because her face looks a lot better balanced to me.Or it's a better angle or something, I dunno.

And a good shot of Carver, too. So he's definitely not doomed to die at the hands of the Ogre. Yay.

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SirOccam wrote...

Anarya wrote...

Y'know, I think Isabela's face looks rather good here:

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Hopefully that shot is a more current one than the closeup, because her face looks a lot better balanced to me.Or it's a better angle or something, I dunno.

And a good shot of Carver, too. So he's definitely not doomed to die at the hands of the Ogre. Yay.


Yeah I'm looking forward to seeing how they have re-tooled the escape from Lothering to include his (potential?) survival, the way it plays out in the demo it didn't seem to leave any room for him to survive? :blink:

I think Isabela looks pretty awesome in general. *shrugs* compared to some of the faces from Origins especially...

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I honestly cannot understand why almost everyone says the game looks along the lines of awesome or amazing. To me, it's an improvement in graphics over DAO, yes. But not by much, it's still looks rather dated compared to what some other games have achieved. I'm really hoping to see a massive overhaul of graphics come Dragon Age 3. I just don't see how the same engine (improved or not ) can produce the kind of visual fidelity expected by gaming standards in a few years time.



Although I agree the new direction of more 'actiony' combat is good, some of the animations are too snappy and broke the suspension of disbelief for me. And Isabela's face looked like a lifeless mannequin, God...



Still, I'm excited by the game, yet cautious of too high an expectation.

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So, looking at Isabelas outfit...am I the only one with the wicked urge to switch her and male!hawkes clothes as soon as I get the chance? Just to see how he looks with the giant golden neclace thing.

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I'm quite convinced that the whole graphical package is still in progress even though the rest of the game is well advanced. The devs need tools and models to create the story. I'm guessing higher rez textures and smoother animations are in the work as well as improving faces and props.

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Awildawn wrote...

I'm quite convinced that the whole graphical package is still in progress even though the rest of the game is well advanced. The devs need tools and models to create the story. I'm guessing higher rez textures and smoother animations are in the work as well as improving faces and props.


Hopefully this is true.

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Eveangaline wrote...

So, looking at Isabelas outfit...am I the only one with the wicked urge to switch her and male!hawkes clothes as soon as I get the chance? Just to see how he looks with the giant golden neclace thing.


Hahaha!!

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David Gaider wrote...

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It establishes visuals, a bit of plot and expectations. It explains a little bit of the framed narrative to uninformed masses. While it might not give value to those who expect gameplay, it's still a valuable trailer for those who were comparing visuals to pictures from ages ago and such.


There is gameplay in there, as you're seeing in-game shots of combat.

If by gameplay someone wants to see a walkthrough of the game in progress, as in a still shot of the screen while someone plays it along with all clicking and GUI menus visible and such, that's something else completely. I have no idea if we're planning something like that. Maybe, but I suspect that's of select interest. Mike would be the person to ask.

See, but the whole cry for "let's see a gameplay trailer" was specifically made to address the fact that the only gameplay footage we've seen so far gave the impression that the game is hack 'n' slash. Everyone at Bioware quickly went into damage control mode because of the negative feedback, taking down all links and references to said footage, and claiming it was not representative of the actual gameplay. So here we are waiting for this new footage of what the game is actually like, but instead we get a really cool montage trailer, and still none of our questions have been answered.

I say this to point out the obvious, not because I didn't see this coming. I do believe the game has become more of a hack 'n' slash game, with only a little tactical element involved, and the devs are trying to hide this fact, or at least mask it long enough so that we buy the game and enjoy it anyway. I think the game will still be fun in its own right, and I still plan to buy it, although whether I pre-order or not is still something I've yet to decide. But I'm just tired of misinformation. If I see a duck, and I call it a duck, I expect others to admit it's a duck. Whether you like ducks or not is a seperate debate. DA2 is not a tactical RPG in the vein of NWN or DAO, it's a very different animal. To keep insisting it is despite the only evidence indicates otherwise is frustrating.

That being said, I'm a huge fan of the classic gameplay of games like BG2 and NWN. I prefer that form of gameplay, it's just my personal preference. Bioware's story telling has always been top-notch, but the gameplay itself is still very important to me. It saddens me to see this franchise, which was a throwback for some of us, is going in a new direction. As I said, I still plan to play it, and I suspect I will enjoy it for what it is, but part of me will always wish DA2 was just an improved DAO rather than something different.

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SphereofSilence wrote...

I honestly cannot understand why almost everyone says the game looks along the lines of awesome or amazing. To me, it's an improvement in graphics over DAO, yes. But not by much, it's still looks rather dated compared to what some other games have achieved. I'm really hoping to see a massive overhaul of graphics come Dragon Age 3. I just don't see how the same engine (improved or not ) can produce the kind of visual fidelity expected by gaming standards in a few years time.
 


Would you prefer it if they spent more money on creating high-end graphics and less on the story and gameplay? Really, the game looks very good considering that A) graphics never were BW's top priority (art style was, though) and B) the models still have to be completed and polished.

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as expected to expand the character polys the world and environment looks really dead now. how boring can empty halls be?

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Eveangaline wrote...

So, looking at Isabelas outfit...am I the only one with the wicked urge to switch her and male!hawkes clothes as soon as I get the chance? Just to see how he looks with the giant golden neclace thing.

I actually felt more like switching with Varric.... I'm thinking that necklace will go pretty well with his chest hair.

*ducks flying shoes*

Modifié par Sakawatchi, 27 octobre 2010 - 03:45 .