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[the_one_54321]

TonyTheBossDanza123 wrote...
Holy **** are you an idiot? IT'S AN RPG. ARMOR, WEAPONS, RINGS, AMULETS, EQUIPMENT!

Goddamnit why don't we just remove guns from FPS's, or crouching from stealth games.

No one said anything about removing equipment, jack[donkey]. This is about art direction.

CoS Sarah Jinstar wrote...
Thats pretty much what I initially replied, the personality, input into the story, etc is what makes the character memorable. I honestly couldn't care any less what a companion is wearing for armor aside from is it giving them adequate protection.

Running head long into battle in just a shirt is silly. Much like I always found it silly in ME2 with Miranda's skin tight leotard.

It makes a little bit more sense in ME given the whole kinetic shield thing. And I'm not saying that they should be given ridiculously flaired designs a la Final Fantasy. Just individual. Custom to the character, as it where. As opposed to common to all the characters, but custom to the equiped armor.

[Lord_Valandil]

The priiiiiize...



You know, Isabela kisses Hawke again in the trailer. I know she's not a forced romance...but I'm wondering if Hawke's LI can interact in that way with him during cutscenes...

[hannels]

the_one_54321 wrote...

hannels wrote...

the_one_54321 wrote...

hannels wrote...
On a side note: I think DA2 Isabela is very pretty. I wonder what the people in here who call her ugly would imagine a "pretty" woman to look like. Someone's standards are a little too high, it seems.

I don't think she's ugly. I just don't have too much of an interest in seeing real life women in video games.

How about they give some male LI's that you think are fugly? Or have some particular feature that makes you go "... ew." What then?

...You're kidding me, right?

Actually, that has always been something that I have found really really really disturbing. So I'll just say that I don't get it and let that one go.

Just saying that while a handsome male LI would be nice, he's nothing without a good personality and possibly other things going for him. I didn't even find Zevran that handsome in game, but I still loved him as a character and an LI. So when people whine about the females in the game being too ugly when there's really not much wrong with them, I get frustrated. By the way, people like that are a huge reason to why so many women feel alienated in video game communities.

[n2nw]

vakarian1111 wrote...

Dave of Canada wrote...

TonyTheBossDanza123 wrote...
Yea and we got Tali, for all we know she could have a spider mouth. At least you knew what you were getting.

Females also got Jacob.
Nothing beats Jacob.

Ahhh his muscles......

Yeah, he looked great.  But then you try to romance him and ..........  

[Lord_Valandil]

n2nw wrote...

vakarian1111 wrote...

Dave of Canada wrote...

TonyTheBossDanza123 wrote...
Yea and we got Tali, for all we know she could have a spider mouth. At least you knew what you were getting.

Females also got Jacob.
Nothing beats Jacob.

Ahhh his muscles......

Yeah, he looked great.  But then you try to romance him and ..........  

Yeah, romancing him is a heavy risk.

[AtreiyaN7]

WilliamShatner wrote...

Different voice

Now looks like a character from Final Fantasy X-XIII.

Entirely new character.

Continuity is not a dirty word BioWare.

*rolleyes* The only way anyone would look like a FF character is if they happened to be a highly androgynous male with super-spiky hair and/or some waif-like female with a high-pitched voice. So far as I can tell, Isabela doesn't look even remotely like that and m. Hawke seems pretty masculine (and with a beard at that).

[mellifera]

Acharnae wrote...

yukidama wrote...

Acharnae wrote...

dan107 wrote...

So the leading lady is a wh*re, and a pretty ugly one at that? Meh.

Lol.. it does seem that way.

You people have serious issues.

Err... yeah. Ok.

No? You don't see how calling women ugly wh*res is problematic in the least? And that you feel perfectly fine saying/agreeing with such things?

[the_one_54321]

hannels wrote...
Just saying that while a handsome male LI would be nice, he's nothing without a good personality and possibly other things going for him. I didn't even find Zevran that handsome in game, but I still loved him as a character and an LI. So when people whine about the females in the game being too ugly when there's really not much wrong with them, I get frustrated. By the way, people like that are a huge reason to why so many women feel alienated in video game communities.

I want an idealized woman for a love interest. Given that it is a video game and not real life, is that really such a horrible thing to want?

It is not....

and I really want to make this completely clear here...

It is not as though I apply the same standards to real women. This is just a game.

[RyuAzai]

I think it is interesting how lots of people are freaking out because of a 'loose' companion we may or may not choice to romance is game.



Really? Is this really were you are gonna make your stand at?



Interesting because I am very sure if there wasn't an 'easy' character in game people would be freaking out that everyone is prude. Plus at the same time **** is a very offensive way to describe the traits of someone. Close minded, and just rude. Not just a judgment on a video game character, but a judgment on anyone that enjoys sexuality. Obviously I am starting a rant so I should slow myself down.



In the end she is just a character you can have or you can't, take her or leave her how you will. Right now I am looking forward to her, maybe in game I might end up disliking her heavily. If the case I probably won't talk to her or romance her. End of story.

[dan107]

hannels wrote...
So when people whine about the females in the game being too ugly when there's really not much wrong with them, I get frustrated. By the way, people like that are a huge reason to why so many women feel alienated in video game communities.

You feel alienated when men request that romanceable women look hot? What do you care if they do or not?

[Lord_Valandil]

Acharnae wrote...
Oh yes. Because if you played DAO you would know that Isabela is a ****.

So...a threesome/foursome is reserved only for "****s"?
Give me a break.

[tmp7704]

the_one_54321 wrote...

But you shouldn't role play the other characters. They should be their own characters which your character is able to interact with.
I want every one of the companions to be their own person.

I think there's a distinction here that you may be overlooking, though -- it's a difference between actively roleplaying the characters, and just overwriting some of the choices made by original creators of the game with something that you feel suit the companions more.

As example, original Zevran is designed as blonde but someone may feel that his character works better with dark hair. Changing character's outfit with one you pick for them is very much like this, too -- just because a character was created in certain form does not mean everyone will see that form as ideal for said character. Thus, being able to overwrite it is nice.

There's also a smaller issue here, and that's the fact these other characters are "their own" to very limited degree. They don't pick their own armour and weapons after all -- they remain locked with the initial gear provided to them by the game/designer and they don't do it as conscious choice/result of being "their own character" but simply as limitation of the game and/or convenience for the player. Otherwise imagine the hilarity that'd be your whole party trying to get hands on that one good piece of loot or armour that dropped.

Modifié par tmp7704, 26 octobre 2010 - 08:35 .

[TonyTheBossDanza123]

hannels wrote...

the_one_54321 wrote...

hannels wrote...

the_one_54321 wrote...

hannels wrote...
On a side note: I think DA2 Isabela is very pretty. I wonder what the people in here who call her ugly would imagine a "pretty" woman to look like. Someone's standards are a little too high, it seems.

I don't think she's ugly. I just don't have too much of an interest in seeing real life women in video games.

How about they give some male LI's that you think are fugly? Or have some particular feature that makes you go "... ew." What then?

...You're kidding me, right?

Actually, that has always been something that I have found really really really disturbing. So I'll just say that I don't get it and let that one go.

Just saying that while a handsome male LI would be nice, he's nothing without a good personality and possibly other things going for him. I didn't even find Zevran that handsome in game, but I still loved him as a character and an LI. So when people whine about the females in the game being too ugly when there's really not much wrong with them, I get frustrated. By the way, people like that are a huge reason to why so many women feel alienated in video game communities.

This just in: Men judge first and foremost by sexual attraction. It's biological, no amount of feminist whining will change that. If you feel alienated in the gaming community it's your own fault.

[dan107]

yukidama wrote...
No? You don't see how calling women ugly wh*res is problematic in the least? And that you feel perfectly fine saying/agreeing with such things?

Well if a woman is an ugly wh*re, what should we call her? I'm not saying that about women in general, just this character specifically.

[ninja0809]

Changing Isabela's looks is a heavy risk......



but the priiiize............

[Addai]

TonyTheBossDanza123 wrote...

This just in: Men judge first and foremost by sexual attraction. It's biological, no amount of feminist whining will change that. If you feel alienated in the gaming community it's your own fault.

And we get to mock you for being shallow horndogs with a one track mind.  It's a fair trade. 

[TonyTheBossDanza123]

yukidama wrote...

Acharnae wrote...

yukidama wrote...

Acharnae wrote...

dan107 wrote...

So the leading lady is a wh*re, and a pretty ugly one at that? Meh.

Lol.. it does seem that way.

You people have serious issues.

Err... yeah. Ok.

No? You don't see how calling women ugly wh*res is problematic in the least? And that you feel perfectly fine saying/agreeing with such things?

Not when they are in fact ugly and are in fact a ****.

[the_one_54321]

tmp7704 wrote...
I think there's a distinction here that you may be overlooking, though -- it's a difference between actively roleplaying the characters, and just overwriting some of the choices made by original creators of the game with something that you feel suit the companions more.

As example, original Zevran is designed as blonde but someone may feel that his character works better with dark hair. Changing character's outfit with one you pick for them is very much like this, too -- just because a character was created in certain form does not mean everyone will see that form as ideal for said character.

There's also a smaller issue here, and that's the fact these other characters are "their own" to very limited degree. They don't pick their own armour and weapons after all -- they remain locked with the initial gear provided to them by the game/designer and they don't do it as conscious choice/result of being "their own character" but simply as limitation of the game and/or convenience for the player. Otherwise imagine the hilarity that'd be your whole party trying to get hands on that one good piece of loot or armour that dropped.

Ok, but what happens whenall of your choices are either "copy-pase shiny plates of metal" or "copy-paste drab brown leather?" Oh, and everyone looks the same in all of the options. Where is the customization in that? 
If you're talking moding, well hey that's cool. I have no complaints there. Mod the living hell out of it, I'll cheer you on and then download them. Just so long as the characters look interesting.

[soundchaser721]

Lord_Valandil wrote...

The priiiiiize...

You know, Isabela kisses Hawke again in the trailer. I know she's not a forced romance...but I'm wondering if Hawke's LI can interact in that way with him during cutscenes...

What I want to know is if you slept with isabella in origins, will she mention it to hawke? I think that would make for some pretty interesting conversations if you choose to romance her...

[dan107]

Lord_Valandil wrote...
So...a threesome/foursome is reserved only for "****s"?
Give me a break.

In a seedy tavern, after about 5 minutes of conversation? That's more or less the definition of a sl*t.

Modifié par dan107, 26 octobre 2010 - 08:35 .

[Lord_Valandil]

soundchaser721 wrote...

Lord_Valandil wrote...

The priiiiiize...

You
know, Isabela kisses Hawke again in the trailer. I know she's not a
forced romance...but I'm wondering if Hawke's LI can interact in that
way with him during cutscenes...

What I want to know is
if you slept with isabella in origins, will she mention it to hawke? I
think that would make for some pretty interesting conversations if you
choose to romance her...

That would be interesting, indeed...

dan107 wrote...

Lord_Valandil wrote...
So...a threesome/foursome is reserved only for "****s"?
Give me a break.

In a seedy tavern, after about 5 minutes of conversation? That's more or less the definition of a sl*t.

Well, BOO-HOO.
No sl*ts for you then.