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[Stanley Woo]

Millions of Spider-Man fans are similarly distressed whenever a new artist draws the character since, for example, the Ramos Spider-Man, the Deodato Spider-Man, the Romita Jr. Spider-Man, and the McFarlane Spider-Man look very different from each other. Personally, I am shocked--SHOCKED, i say--that Spider-Man can stay the same character despite going through so many appearance changes without any character ever commenting on it.

[Jon Jern_]

Goddess Of Boobs wrote...

Jon Jern wrote...

Whoa wait... So she's a companion now?

I haven't been following DA2 in awhile.

It's useless to follow stuff on this site periodically. Just check in once a month or wait till the game comes out. Finding out about stuff will only just make you super happy or fantastically sad at the changes.

Thanks for answering my question.

[Perfect-Kenshin]

I have no problems with the appearance updates. Hell, I encourage it. I just don't like how they changed Isabella from a relatively pretty lass to this fugly looking girl. If they are trying to be realistic in the portrayal of female pirates, Bioware has passed with flying colors.

[Perfect-Kenshin]

Stanley Woo wrote...

Millions of Spider-Man fans are similarly distressed whenever a new artist draws the character since, for example, the Ramos Spider-Man, the Deodato Spider-Man, the Romita Jr. Spider-Man, and the McFarlane Spider-Man look very different from each other. Personally, I am shocked--SHOCKED, i say--that Spider-Man can stay the same character despite going through so many appearance changes without any character ever commenting on it.

Yeah, I don't know what they were thinking in having Immomen draw Ultimate Spider-Man. Bagley is a thousand times better whereas Immonen's drawing loos like something EVEN I could draw.

[Perfect-Kenshin]

ciaweth wrote...

I don't care what she looks like, as long as she can fight. Priorities, gentlemen. Not everyone's gonna look like your Porn Barbie ideal.

Uh, that's cuz you're a girl and in all likelihood, are just gonna be fawning over Varric's hot and smexy chest hair throughout the whole game.

[Riona45]

SgtElias wrote...

Personally, I'm glad that Isabela is returning; I'm a sucker for tie-ins to previous material. I never hopped in the sack with her, mind, but I did like her in Origins; she was interesting, strong. I like female characters who are capable individuals.

Agreed on all counts! 

I hope that she's a romance option for females as well as males, because I know I'll probably choose to romance her, at least once.

Well, we already know she's bi, so there is hope for that at least (I'm not intending to romance her, but I'd love the option to be there for those who want it).

[Brockololly]

I really don't care about the changes to Isabela, since she was such a minor character in Origins, but I'll be massively disappointed if more notable or recognizable characters or companions from Origins show up having received massive facial reconstructive surgery. Change their outfits or their hair, thats fine- but its just irritating when the face of a character changes for no reason. Its why I hate it in movies when they recast a role- for me it often breaks any immersion you have in that movie.



Its a matter of visual continuity, especially when its only the second game in the franchise and most everything is being changed such that it looks entirely different from what was established in Origins.

[Sabariel]

Could be worse. She could have gone into battle commando-style....

Modifié par Sabariel, 26 octobre 2010 - 11:16 .

[Fortlowe]

[Dave of Canada]

Stanley Woo wrote...

Millions of Spider-Man fans are similarly distressed whenever a new artist draws the character since, for example, the Ramos Spider-Man, the Deodato Spider-Man, the Romita Jr. Spider-Man, and the McFarlane Spider-Man look very different from each other. Personally, I am shocked--SHOCKED, i say--that Spider-Man can stay the same character despite going through so many appearance changes without any character ever commenting on it.

I AM SHOCKED.

[Perfect-Kenshin]

JohnEpler wrote...

I'm going to quite politely point out that veiling ad hominem inside the layers of an actual argument doesn't make it any less of ad hominem. If you want to disagree, that's cool! These forums are made for discussion and conversation, and it'd be pretty boring if everyone agreed on everything.

But if all you're looking to do is condescend and pick a fight, you might find that other forums may be more to your liking. Discuss the issues.

You're mistaken, John Epler. The ad hominem fallacy (if that's what you meant) is committed when one uses an insult to determine that someone's position is incorrect. You're weighing style over substance, which is incidentally a fallacy in itself. That being said, yes, I agree that people should strive to be less belligerent here.

[Enshaid]

Fortlowe wrote...

I love you.. so much.. *tears of joy*
beautiful...

[Forwen]

Noticed a small thing... When I played DAO the first time I became very fond of Isabella's character. For such a small role she was unexpectedly memorable, had attitude and skill and made me regret she wasn't the f/f companion option instead of the rather dull Leliana. I literally thought, shame she isn't on my team.

And now that BioWare have pretty much fulfilled my wishful thinking - second game in a row, first wish being Garrus' return - my first impulse is to not jump with joy but to complain how ugly she is and how they took away her awesome VO. Now does that make me a jerk or just a true, concerned, devoted fan

Modifié par Forwen, 26 octobre 2010 - 11:26 .

[Collider]

Riona45 wrote...
Well, we already know she's bi, so there is hope for that at least (I'm not intending to romance her, but I'd love the option to be there for those who want it).

Yea, it'd be pretty much inexcusable if Isabela is only a romance option for males then.

[Nyaore]

Wait, Isabela from this game is the same Isabela from the Pearl? I'm sorry, but that's just wicked awesome. Isabela didn't get much of a role in the first game, but she was definitely one of the more interesting of the named truly minor characters. I eagerly look forward to seeing how she'll turn out with an expanded role.

[Perfect-Kenshin]

David Gaider wrote...

dan107 wrote...
So the leading lady is a wh*re, and a pretty ugly one at that? Meh.

"Leading lady"? It's a companion, with an optional romance, and one you don't even have to recruit. If you really don't like her, then give her a pass. Seriously, the day we make a romanceable character that appeals to absolutely everyone (and, if female, isn't picked apart by forumites based on her facial features)... well, there's no need to speculate because that will never happen.

Perhaps not, but you could certainly get a lot closer to crafting such a character if you applied a little more effort, Mr. Gaider. It isn't hard to make a character look gorgeous. The Bar Maid you meet in Origins was easily the best looking woman in the game (assuming no mods are used) and I was a bit saddened that she wasn't recruitable and ended up settling for the Pimp amongst Pimps, Bann Teagen.. I'm not sure why you chose to make Isabela look manly, but as long as there is another L.I for me to choose, this isn't much of a problem for me.

Modifié par Perfect-Kenshin, 26 octobre 2010 - 11:30 .

[ejoslin]

Well, she is VERY different than she was in Origins -- I also hope that characters like Alistair, if they appear, are a lot more similar to how they look in DA:O, but I can't imagine it would be any other way.

That said, I would be the happiest Zevran fangirl in the world if you import a game where he was in love with the warden, Isabela mentions in an offhand way about the Warden catching a former lover of hers that she thought would never settle down. More subtle than that, of course.

Yep, that alone would make me happy with DA2. Which is really kind of sad!

Edit: And at least you know there will be at least one bisexual love interest.  I'm hoping for a male bisexual love interest as well 

Modifié par ejoslin, 26 octobre 2010 - 11:27 .

[Dave of Canada]

Nyaore wrote...

but she was definitely one of the more interesting of the named truly minor characters. I eagerly look forward to seeing how she'll turn out with an expanded role.

I'd like to see Old Tegrin come back.

He was the most interesting minor character.

[errant_knight]

Huh, that comment a while back about Morrigan being changed worries me, although it wasn't referenced, so might be bogus. Still worrisome, though. Flemeth has a new body, presumably, so that's okay. Doesn't really matter if the NPCs look slightly different, but I thought they'd keep the main characters as close to the same as possible. Changing Morrigan or Alistair? Wow. That's just...so not a good idea. Not if it's more than small changes necessitated by the game engine or texture map differences. They've seen the reaction that most morphs get, right?

Modifié par errant_knight, 26 octobre 2010 - 11:29 .

[The Uncanny]

I've been hoping Isabela would turn up in some capacity in DA2 ever since I found out the game was going to happen.

Today I'm ecstatic... and I think she looks better than she did in the first game.

Modifié par The Uncanny, 26 octobre 2010 - 11:29 .

[AlienZombies]

She looks like a Sim from the Sims 3. Legit.



If that's the style they're going for I will make sadface but I guess such is life.

[Tinxa]

filaminstrel wrote...

Seems like a small world with all of the DAO characters making cameos/taking significant roles in DA2. What's the population of Thedas anyway?

Did you forget BG2 where EVERYONE and their mother turned up in or around Ahkatla

I don't know what to think about the pirate lady being that Isabela. I kind of got the feeling she was an older mature woman (the way she looked and the fact that she was a captain). Not Wynne's age but quite a bit older than Morrigan or Leliana for example... and now she looks young

[Nyaore]

Dave of Canada wrote...

Nyaore wrote...

but she was definitely one of the more interesting of the named truly minor characters. I eagerly look forward to seeing how she'll turn out with an expanded role.

I'd like to see Old Tegrin come back.

He was the most interesting minor character.

Tegrin is a dead dwarf if he ever comes back in my game. Stupid man kept on intercepting my party when I was trying to trigger the meteorite over world map scene from Warden's Peak, causing the process to take at least an hour longer than it should have.

Modifié par Nyaore, 26 octobre 2010 - 11:33 .