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[ShrinkingFish]

filaminstrel wrote...

Salma Hayek seems to be the most fitting comparison.

Agreed.

[_purifico_]

aznsoisauce wrote...

Dave of Canada wrote...

I've not facepalmed this hard in years.

Thank you, Isabela thread.

But wait! There's more!

I had some fun with that celebrity face double website.


I feel a bit old remembering when Cindy Crawford was considered the most beautiful woman on the planet.
I was getting results like Tricia Helfer, Angelina Jolie, Leelee Sobieski, and Kiera Knightley -- although, Kiera's face is pretty man-ish.

Then again...

These are just random pictures of random women, right? Because Isabela looks nothing like Cindy or Kate.

[Karlojey]

Who cares whether she doesn't look nor sound like the old Isabela? The new one is much, MUCH better than the old one. Plus, at least we have one connection from Origins. Who knows, we might get a threesome again in DA2!!! ;D

[Persephone]

TonyTheBossDanza123 wrote...

the_one_54321 wrote...

Helekanalaith wrote...

CoS Sarah Jinstar wrote...

Brockololly wrote...
My only concern in seeing characters so individualized is that I wonder how the armor will work with companions. They've said we'll have an inventory and all, but well, technically we had an inventory in ME2 as well.

Swear to all that is holy if they pull that "unique companion clothing" bs they pulled with ME2 I'll cancle my preorder and not even bother til its 10 bucks used.

Opinions differ. I prefer the character-styled appearances, as seen in ME2, over the generic Joe Smoe outfits any time.

I think that individualized body and clothing designs far outshines the benefits of customizable armor. We had customizable armor in DA:O and what it amounted to was a lot of really boring looks that were copy-paste of all the other really boring looks on the characters that had bodies that were copy-pase of the identical bodies other characters had. What's there to customize? Where's the flair? It was boring. It was customizable and all that meant was that everyone had to be the same.

This is an RPG. A core part of an RPG is that you have customization. You want to play a character with a set style, go play an adventure game like Assassins Creed or Prince of Persia.

As an avid Adventure Gamer this made me shudder. SHUDDER, I tell you! 

[aznsoisauce]

_purifico_ wrote...

These are just random pictures of random women, right? Because Isabela looks nothing like Cindy or Kate.

She also looks nothing like Ryan Phillipe or David Bowie. I have some other face double compilations of Origins characters, but that would be too off-topic. That website in general is pretty fail, but it's damn fun.

In all seriousness, Isabela does look like Kate Winslet.

[Ryllen Laerth Kriel]

They say a few years at sea can really change a person...I never knew it applied to fictional characters so literally...hmm. Hey, at least she didn't grow Qunari horns!

[Aggie Punbot]

David Gaider wrote...

TS2Aggie wrote...
. . . "Anxiety"? The only thing I expressed a desire for was continuity in a game that I expect I will probably enjoy; I don't really think that merits being belittled by you.

I'm not belittling you. I do think making numerous posts expressing "concern" over something to be anxiety, however, sure. You asked politely and I answered your questions... and insofar as people being concerned about visual continuity from DAO to DA2 all I meant is there are MUCH bigger changes (see the darkspawn, for instance, or the qunari) so I'm not sure why someone would be point out Isabela specifically, as if we weren't already overhauling the looks of things across the board. That's it.

I don't mention the differences in the appearance of the darkspawn or qunari because I can see valid reasons for those changes (or at least understandable reasoning). I just don't see the purpose of radically changing the physical appearance of a character from one game to the next just because '[we] can'. That's all. No anxiety here, just honest confusion.

But eh, you don't need to explain anything to me. I'm sure once I get the game itself all will work itself out in the end.

Modifié par TS2Aggie, 27 octobre 2010 - 09:27 .

[ElvaliaRavenHart]

I really like the new Isabela and I'm astound at the improvement, the cheeks need a slight slim down not alot just alittle, cheeks to me are to wide and her mouth needs to be just a tad bigger, but not alot.

I can't believe the King and I got it on with the old one, I thought the old Isabela was right down ugly but I needed that duelist thing.  I hope we get a mention of this in the new game on our decision in regards to her.  Some games yes we slept with her and others my characters did the card game, I beat her to without Zevran's help. 

I thought the interaction with her in the game was hilarious, and I really enjoyed this, so true to life in many subcultures of any society.  

[HighlandBerserkr]

David Gaider wrote...

dan107 wrote...
Well why not just try it once and see how it goes? I honestly think you would get a lot fewer people calling her ugly. Maybe she won't be the hottest thing in the world to everyone, but she'll be attractive enough to almost every heterosexual male.

Sounds like she'd hit your preferences, sure.

I'm not sure why we would do that, however, except to supposedly calm the people who are calling Isabela ugly. Which I already told you they would do anyhow, no matter how Victoria-esque she looked, because that's what people do-- especially to models.

So I think we're okay with making our characters look interesting, rather than striving for some perfection to appease people who are mostly complaining about nothing anyhow. And I'll leave it at that, sorry.

good on you, i think she looks fantastic, forget all the nitpickers, tell them to shut up and make there own damn game

[Tamahome560]

Bioware still has time to do something about her face ... do it before it's to late. Everything else is fine.

[Tamyn]

ElvaliaRavenHart wrote...

 I thought the old Isabela was right down ugly  

I did too. I like this change.

[Collider]

I bet in-game Isabela is considered gorgeous

[aaniadyen]

I think she's pretty, she is suffering from a case of man jaw, but then again, Morrigan did too in the Sacred ashes trailer and look how she turned out.

[Collider]

aaniadyen wrote...

I think she's pretty, she is suffering from a case of man jaw, but then again, Morrigan did too in the Sacred ashes trailer and look how she turned out.

I liked Morrigan's look in the Sacred Ashes trailer and preferred that one. But I prefer DA:O's rendering of Leliana to Sacred Ashes'. In Sacred Ashes she looks a little too young.

[GodWood]

Collider wrote...

aaniadyen wrote...
I think she's pretty, she is suffering from a case of man jaw, but then again, Morrigan did too in the Sacred ashes trailer and look how she turned out.

I liked Morrigan's look in the Sacred Ashes trailer and preferred that one. But I prefer DA:O's rendering of Leliana to Sacred Ashes'. In Sacred Ashes she looks a little too young.

and her hair looked too fake.

OT, I don't mind Isabela's look myself although she could use a bigger mouth.

[Ryllen Laerth Kriel]

Collider wrote...

aaniadyen wrote...

I think she's pretty, she is suffering from a case of man jaw, but then again, Morrigan did too in the Sacred ashes trailer and look how she turned out.

I liked Morrigan's look in the Sacred Ashes trailer and preferred that one. But I prefer DA:O's rendering of Leliana to Sacred Ashes'. In Sacred Ashes she looks a little too young.

Leliana in the SA trailer also looked like she relied on cherry Koolaid to keep her hair red. She also did forty foot backflips off pillars.  Morrigan looked like some frightening cricket woman with big bug eyes that were possibly infected...I hated the SA trailer so much! Good, I got that out of my system.

Isabela's new look is okay, she does look more pirate-like, which is a good thing. And her jaw and cheeks being full is just from all the salted pork rations she eats on her ship.

[TMcGee92127]

I'm sorry, but the new Isabela was "redesigned" a little too heavily.  Her mouth is way too small and she has the chubby face of someone who's spent way to much time on the couch eating bon bons.  But her arms are perfectly toned, so the bon bons must weigh a ton. 

I wouldn't say the old Isabela was any better looking; I always thought she was a poorly rendered toon.

It appears the Bioware folks are trying to justify drastically changing the look of a character that EVERYONE playing Origins wiki'd to try and figure out the threesome thing with.  "Redesign" shouldn't mean changing critical features of a popular character.

At least thin her face out a bit and make her mouth larger.  And what color is her hair?  Is there even a name for that shade of, whatever?  It is most definitely an auburn shade in The Pearl.  Her eyes are now squinty where they were somewhat "doe-eyed" and round, fine, at least you got the color right.  Her nose is now rediculously pinched when it was broad with a fairly shallow bridge.

Bottom line, even if Isabela was never meant to be a main character, everyone interacted with her.  Most of us several times until we got the right response.  She has figured  prominantly in many of the DAO fanfictions I've read, so I agree she's a solid choice to pull in to a new game.  However, you have pulled only one character from DAO into DA2, one that everyone knows well, and completely changed it.

I am a huge Bioware fan and I love the DAO world, but you really, really missed the mark here.

Modifié par TMcGee92127, 27 octobre 2010 - 10:27 .

[HighMoon]

TMcGee92127 wrote...

However, you have pulled only one character from DAO into DA2, one that everyone knows well, and completely changed it..

Have you forgotten about Flemeth?

[Ryllen Laerth Kriel]

That freaky piercing below her bottom lip distracts me, it looks like a golden soul patch.

[ShrinkingFish]

Golden-Rose wrote...

TMcGee92127 wrote...

However, you have pulled only one character from DAO into DA2, one that everyone knows well, and completely changed it..

Have you forgotten about Flemeth?

Everyone forgot about Flemeth...

[Ryllen Laerth Kriel]

I'm not sure Flemeth would be a good comparisson since the character has a history of inhabiting different human hosts...so she likely wouldn't look the same. In DA:O most players killed Flemeth's host body or it could be assumed that the host body died from old age. She was grooming Morrigan afterall for posession (if Morrigan is to be believed).

[Ryzaki]

ShrinkingFish wrote...

Golden-Rose wrote...

TMcGee92127 wrote...

However, you have pulled only one character from DAO into DA2, one that everyone knows well, and completely changed it..

Have you forgotten about Flemeth?

Everyone forgot about Flemeth...

You two forget Flemeth's a shapeshifter? 

[Sir JK]

TMcGee92127 wrote...
... Her mouth is way too small ...

 
There was a Bioware dev (without his tag yet) a few pages back stating that the size of her mouth is due to a glitch they didn't manage to correct but that the mouth was the correct size when she throws her knife. If you look closely at that latter scene you can actually see this, her mouth is much more proportional there (which incidentally, makes the jaw less pronounced).

[TMcGee92127]

Golden-Rose wrote...

TMcGee92127 wrote...

However, you have pulled only one character from DAO into DA2, one that everyone knows well, and completely changed it..

Have you forgotten about Flemeth?

If Flemeth shows up in DA2 looking like she did in DAO, then Bioware has some serious explaining to do.

[Karlojey]

Guys guys, not even DA:O characters were that attractive but we STILL fell in-love with them. Who's to say we won't fall in-love with the new Isabela?

We may not fall in-love with her as an LI but we may love her personality. Plus, David [Gaider] did say she was an optional companion. So we can choose to leave her if we really think she sucks.