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[Riona45]

Addai67 wrote...

Riona45 wrote...

I know, back a few months ago people kept complaining about how there was no apparent continuity between the two games (it wasn't true then, either, but whatever).  Now we have a character from the first game as an actual companion, and there's still a problem--only now it is with her appearance and sexuality.

Couldn't we have gotten Sergeant Kylon?  Ser Perth?  Bevin?!

Eh...I get that you don't like Isabela, but personally I'm fine with her, and don't see why the characters you listed "deserve" to be in DA2 any more than she does.  Bevin I didn't even remember, and had to look him up.  He is a little kid, and the devs have already mentioned why they can't have little kids as party members (he might be a possibility in the latter part of the game, but even that might be stretching it).  The others I liked, but honestly they didn't stick in my mind the way Isabela did, and IMO you'd be less likely to see them (a Denerim city guard and a knight of Arl Eamon) leaving Ferelden and heading up to the Free Marches.  It's not impossible, but it'd make less sense than seeing a pirate who is known to travel from port to port.

I would also like to point out that they've only just started telling us who the companions are, and there are more to come.  Who knows, maybe Kylon or Perth might be one of them. *shrugs*

Modifié par Riona45, 28 octobre 2010 - 04:40 .

[Harid]

Ryzaki wrote...

Harid wrote...

I suppose my general argument is expecting virgins out of the 22+ fair that makes up Bioware protagonists, is like trying to pull a 22+ year old virgin out of the general population. You might find a couple, but like I said, they either need to talk it out/change some habits of theirs or are religious.

Right because every sixteen year old who loses their virginity is a skank or was molested.

Generalizations FTW!

I never stated this, so Strawman's FTW!

It's like you read what I posted and posted the exact opposite of what I posted.

A normal person will lose their virginity pre 22.  If you haven't you either have issues you need to work out (intimacy/self esteem that can have a multitude of causes) or you are saving yourself for marriage.  I'm not saying lolvirgins, nothing of the sort, but, self esteem issues are easily fixed if they don't have a deeper cause.

Most 22+ virgins. . .don't want to be virgins.  It's not a badge of honor.

Modifié par Harid, 28 octobre 2010 - 04:36 .

[Lenimph]

UberDuber wrote...

Lenimph wrote...

aaniadyen wrote...

Harid wrote...

Do people really want to bang 24+ year old virgins? If you are a virgin and over 24, something is generally seriously wrong with you or you are religious.

Virgins are horrible lays anyway.  There aren't shrinks to take these people through to work out their psychological issues in the DA world, and a person with no training isn't going to realistically fix this kind of person.

Hell yeah! Only three more years to go before something is seriously wrong with me. I can't wait!

Either theres something wrong with you or your like me a SKANK !!
WooT! Who need pants... or shirts!?http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQ2Ck43ob1nM5JLFqHWDxsQh1kuebjj5ACTfnSPI5AHpTIZjlg&t=1&usg=__8BGZvnzFuaUzKpyj3cE4lyCyib8=

I'm a skank too! You never ever see me without a tight leather swimming suit.

Ahh...I'm glad Isabela is in DA2. I'll not be able to stop laughing at her chin. Seriously though, I'm not hating on her. I actually like her, but I'm just making fun of her.

3 cheers for being leotarded! 

[Riona45]

Harid wrote...
A normal person will lose their virginity pre 22.

Let's not be discussing people's real lifestyles on this board please.  It's not appropriate (goes for all sides).

That being said, the devs have said that the LIs they create have a variety of sexual habits and that will be continued in DA2, and I support that.  It would be unrealistic if every LI in the game just happened to be a virgin.

[Ryzaki]

Harid wrote...

I never stated this, so Strawman's FTW!

It's like you read what I posted and posted the exact opposite of what I posted.

A normal person will lose their virginity pre 22.  If you haven't you either have issues you need to work out (intimacy/self esteem that can have a multitude of causes) or you are saving yourself for marriage.  I'm not saying lolvirgins, nothing of the sort, but, self esteem issues are easily fixed if they don't have a deeper cause.

/sighs

Right because not having sex always equals you're saving yourself for marriage, have low self esteem or being a weirdo. It's not like people don't think they've met the right person yet. No. Could never be that.

You practically said: "Anyone 22+ virgins are either religious or have low self-esteem." ...Which isn't always the case. Raw forbid someone want to wait. I'm sick of people trying to screech at others about what's "normal" people are different. Just live and let live.

Modifié par Ryzaki, 28 octobre 2010 - 04:41 .

[nightcobra]

just woke up and i see some people trying to destroy the thread, well let's stay on topic shall we?

[Pacifien]

I'm going to say right now that this thread is in danger of being locked, so reign it back in and start discussing Isabela in a civil manner before I get cranky.

[Special_Agent_Goodwrench]

nightcobra8928 wrote...

just woke up and i see some people trying to destroy the thread, well let's stay on topic shall we?

I'm sorry, but I think this thread has been tainted too much. Only fire can cleanse the evils within.

[UberDuber]

Pacifien wrote...

I'm going to say right now that this thread is in danger of being locked, so reign it back in and start discussing Isabela in a civil manner before I get cranky.

lol.

[nightcobra]

reposting this to get thread back on topic:



A bit of info on isabela's personality from Sheryl





me: Out of curiosity, was it challenging to write for isabela even though it must have been fun as heck?



Sheryl:Not really. She has a very assertive personality that she likes to beat me over the head with. So it's easy to know what she's going to do in almost all situations.



me:i imagine her as a double crosser to her clients but loyal to her friends and crew, is that a fair assessment of her personality/behaviour?



Sheryl:Hmmmm... sort of? I can say she's unpredictable and doesn't make friends easily.



me:well apparently she gets along with varric XD who wouldn't anyway?



Sheryl:Oh, yeah, she gets along with everyone, and she's friendly, but that could be on the surface, no?



me:hmm....interesting so maybe is she putting on a friendly mask while on the inside she's very manipulative?



Sheryl:I wouldn't say manipulative really. Manipulation requires planning, and Isabela doesn't think longterm.



me:oh so she's more impulsive then, good to know.

like a "live for the moment" type of character i'm guessing.



Sheryl:That's a good description.



me:that must be why her crew loves her so much, they never get a dull moment so the fun never stops.



Sheryl:Hehe, you could say that.

[Jestina]

As I mentioned...they are taking this in the FF direction...and that character looks about spot on something from the Fantasy games.

[Silentmode]

A lot of people must of grown up in the Playboy mansion if they think Isabela is ugly, seriously I'm not seeing it.

Hopeless attempt to get on topic.

I wonder what the name of Isabela's ship is. I'm betting on it being named The Pantless.

[Ryzaki]

Silentmode wrote...

A lot of people must of grown up in the Playboy mansion if they think Isabela is ugly, seriously I'm not seeing it.
Hopeless attempt to get on topic.
I wonder what the name of Isabela's ship is. I'm betting on it being named The Pantless.

...I could've sworn she told us the name in Origins. ...Yeah it's the Siren's Call.

If she ends up being a femme fatale character it would be extremely appropriate.

Modifié par Ryzaki, 28 octobre 2010 - 04:43 .

[Harid]

Jestina wrote...

As I mentioned...they are taking this in the FF direction...and that character looks about spot on something from the Fantasy games.

I don't think SE would put an ethnic looking female as a main character in a main line FF game, but hey, they have only proved me wrong all of never.

Modifié par Harid, 28 octobre 2010 - 04:45 .

[ENolan]

DrunkDeadman wrote...

nightcobra8928 wrote...

just woke up and i see some people trying to destroy the thread, well let's stay on topic shall we?

I'm sorry, but I think this thread has been tainted too much. Only fire can cleanse the evils within.

Or Godfather quotes....

[Silentmode]

Ryzaki wrote...

Silentmode wrote...
A lot of people must of grown up in the Playboy mansion if they think Isabela is ugly, seriously I'm not seeing it.
Hopeless attempt to get on topic.
I wonder what the name of Isabela's ship is. I'm betting on it being named The Pantless.

...I could've sworn she told us the name in Origins. ...Yeah it's the Siren's Call.

Oh I didnt know that, its a good name. Goes to show how significant her role in DAO really was and how much people are blowing this out of proportion.

[Harid]

BrotherWarth wrote...

Silentmode wrote...

A lot of people must of grown up in the Playboy mansion if they think Isabela is ugly, seriously I'm not seeing it.
Hopeless attempt to get on topic.
I wonder what the name of Isabela's ship is. I'm betting on it being named The Pantless.

Or some people have a different idea of beauty than you do. You think she's attractive, I think she's a nug. Some people think Megan Fox is the hottest woman on the planet, I think she's a bimbo covered in stupid tattoos who doesn't even deserve to be a Transformers movie. To each their own.

How do you both agree with and denigrate someone in the same breath.

[Harid]

BrotherWarth wrote...

Harid wrote...

Jestina wrote...

As I mentioned...they are taking this in the FF direction...and that character looks about spot on something from the Fantasy games.

I don't think SE would put an ethnic looking female as a main character in a main line FF game, but hey, they have only proved me wrong all of never.

That bunny lady in FFXII had pretty much the same skin color as Isabela.

The bunny lady. . .was a bunny lady, not a human.

The only answer is Rafa from FFT, but that was not a mainline FF.

Anyway, I hope they keep Isabela like she is, and then make her a great character, like Kreia, just to conflict narrowminded fans.  Will be hilarious.

Modifié par Harid, 28 octobre 2010 - 04:49 .

[Aermas]

Sorry Nevermind

Modifié par Aermas, 28 octobre 2010 - 04:49 .

[Neesee]

Ryzaki wrote...

Silentmode wrote...

A lot of people must of grown up in the Playboy mansion if they think Isabela is ugly, seriously I'm not seeing it.
Hopeless attempt to get on topic.
I wonder what the name of Isabela's ship is. I'm betting on it being named The Pantless.

...I could've sworn she told us the name in Origins. ...Yeah it's the Siren's Call.

If she ends up being a femme fatale character it would be extremely appropriate.

The Siren's Call is a very appropriate name for Isabela's ship. I wonder if it came with it or if she dubbed it that once she inherited it from her husband.