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I'm waiting for her role in DA2 and learing more about her and then finding out we shouldn't have killed her in DAO. I'm really expecting this. Then everyone will say.....oh crap!

Modifié par ElvaliaRavenHart, 29 octobre 2010 - 01:06 .


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mellifera

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Flemeth is the Daleks of Dragon Age.

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Dodok wrote...

Eshaye wrote...

Johnny Jaded wrote...

Morrigan did tell the Warden that she doubts (s)he truly killed Flemeth and that it was likely to merely be a slight inconvenience to her.
Flemeth's own words when you tell her you're going to kill her suggest she's been "killed" numerous times before: "Come then. It's a dance Flemeth knows all too well."

As for discovering her secret, I'd say there will likely be hints but no big reveal.


That's what I was going to say. Plus we killed her in dragon form, maybe she can't 'die' that way. Morrigan says she bleeds like everyone else, but probably meant it as a human. Maybe you have to keep her from shape shifting first. 


That would be a little.. hard? would it not?
Even the Templars who are quite famous at negating magical use couldn't stop her from shifting.
Perhaps an explanation to her immortality would be that she is an old god who escaped imprisonment?

So she acts like an archdemon, whenever death comes upon her she simply travels into another body.
Hmm.. that sort of theory works well for her, Morrigan needs an old god to battle an old god?
Lots of questions and not so many answers.

Anyway that body she was in is definetly dead (that is if your warden killed her, but I mean who wouldn't?).
The start of the Witch Hunt dlc says something like:


I haven't played Witch Hunt, so I have no knowledge of that, my conjecture comes from Vanilla DA =]
:) 

In fantasy there's always a way to stop the impossible from happening, in this case binding Flemeth in one form to kill her for good, whether it's an ancient relic or some dangerous task. ^_^

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Maria Caliban wrote...

Do you think we'll learn how she returned to the land of the living in DA 2, or will it remain a mystery? 


Knowing BioWare, I would say a mystery.
She looks in really great shape for an 500 year old dragon god... thing, whom has popped out more daughters than one can count. I wonder what's her secret...

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Technically she hasn't, she possesses her own daughters. So her body is only so old, & has had only one or two daughters. While the entity Flemeth is very old & probably a dragon.

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ErichHartmann wrote...

Tiax Rules All wrote...

Killing her is going to be a new staple in the DA franchise. You get to kill her in every game. After killing her in DA-5 for the fifth and final time you get a special "Witch Hunter" Acheivement.


My greatest fear.  Recycling the same boss over and over again like Nintendo games.  How many times does Link need to defeat Ganondorf before he finally dies? :)


Yes but  does evil really change?Do you think every vilain are so much different?They want something nasty and try everything to obtain it.I don't see much difference between Kefka and Sephiroth.Both are completly mad and want to kill everything.It's just the story to get here that make thing interesting.We know from the start about the Archdemon.Do we really care about it?We just need to stop it.It's does not make it more unique than Gannondorf and

That why i complety agree with the *no main vilain thing* .. It's get old and  just repeat itself.Evil thing it's more powerful than 1 being.Kill 1 and 4 will spawn . Look at darkspawn.

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I believe that Flemeth had prior knowledge of the Dark Ritual for a reason. I think she is another 'old god' baby. But thats just me.

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The scene is before you kill her

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yukidama wrote...

Flemeth is the Daleks of Dragon Age.


This!!

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leonia42 wrote...

yukidama wrote...

Flemeth is the Daleks of Dragon Age.


This!!


EXPLAIN! EXPLAIN!



heh always wanted to say/write that:P 

Modifié par nightcobra8928, 28 octobre 2010 - 10:21 .


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OP, you should put a comma after the word "good".

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FellowerOfOdin

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Bioware already created a loophole in Origins. Morrigan says that even when you kill Flemeth, she will return. Cheap yet effective.

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nightcobra8928 wrote...

leonia42 wrote...

yukidama wrote...

Flemeth is the Daleks of Dragon Age.


This!!


EXPLAIN! EXPLAIN!



heh always wanted to say/write that:P 


Tee-hee-hee. Daleks of Dragon Age! I love that expression.

<--- Doctor Who fan!

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I never killed her.  I mean what was the point?

Morrigan herself tells you that it won't work for long and Flemeth says pretty much the same thing.  Plus I felt it was prudent to not anger the nice lady who saved my life and could royally screw me over later if she so desires.  It pays not to make enemies of entities like her.  B)

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Abominations never die; they just Fade away....

*gotta use this pun when I can*

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Elhanan wrote...

Abominations never die; they just Fade away....
*gotta use this pun when I can*


Oh GAWD that is TERRIBLE!!!!!

But I just about snorted my coffee laughing...

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Elhanan

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Icinix wrote...

Oh GAWD that is TERRIBLE!!!!!

But I just about snorted my coffee laughing...


*SPOON!!!* Image IPB

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Flemeth's symbol on her grimoire is a dead tree if I remember correctly and that symbol pops up in the intro to origins when discussing the magisters corrupting the black city, seem's to me that the dev's are feeding us some clues here as to flemeth being one of those dudes or it might just be symbolizing the corruption of the blight.

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I'm hoping for a remote puppet type deal ala Ghost in The Shell. Image IPB

Or maybe an opening cutscene of Kate Mulgrew sitting at a computer saying "Damn! now I'll have to re-roll her."

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As we've pointed out before, Hawke meets Flemeth right after the fall of Lothering-- this is after the Warden first meets Flemeth but before it's possible to get and perform Morrigan's quest to kill her.

As to how that ties into what the Warden might or might not have done in DAO regarding Flemeth-- well, you'll just have to see. But we certainly don't ignore it. :)

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David Gaider wrote...

As we've pointed out before, Hawke meets Flemeth right after the fall of Lothering-- this is after the Warden first meets Flemeth but before it's possible to get and perform Morrigan's quest to kill her.

As to how that ties into what the Warden might or might not have done in DAO regarding Flemeth-- well, you'll just have to see. But we certainly don't ignore it. :)


Waaaait just a minute, Mr. Gaider.
We know that Hawke meets Flemeth right after the Warden first meets her, but...
Her change of appearance, is the change in the art direction, or does Flemeth changed shapes to look older in the hut and "younger" when meeting Hawke? Also...did she meet Hawke and then goes back to the hut to meet the Warden again?
This...kind of confuses me, but we'll just have to wait and see.

Another question, a bit off-topic. The Darkspawn, it was said a while ago that their change is because of a disease, then a few days ago you said that it was because of the different art style. So, what's it then? Image IPB

Modifié par Lord_Valandil, 28 octobre 2010 - 04:05 .


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Herr Uhl

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She wanted to impress Hawke, make him/her believe that she was Flemeth. That is what I'd wager.

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Lord_Valandil wrote...
Another question, a bit off-topic. The Darkspawn, it was said a while ago that their change is because of a disease, when a few days ago you said that it was because of the different art style. So, what's it then? Posted Image


Because of a disease? When was this said?

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Lord_Valandil

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David Gaider wrote...

Lord_Valandil wrote...
Another question, a bit off-topic. The Darkspawn, it was said a while ago that their change is because of a disease, when a few days ago you said that it was because of the different art style. So, what's it then? Image IPB


Because of a disease? When was this said?


I'll have to check, but I'm quite sure it was said, I don't remember who.

Modifié par Lord_Valandil, 28 octobre 2010 - 04:07 .


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yukidama wrote...

Flemeth is the Daleks of Dragon Age.


Nonsense, just because she is old does not mean that she has trouble getting up and down stairs.