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The Official Isabela Discussion thread 2.0 **VA: Victoria Kruger**


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#2651
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Atakuma wrote...

Dr. Doctor wrote...

Well, Izzy throwing Hawke at the enemy might not work out so well...

Varric on the other hand...


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Maria Caliban wrote...

In truth, I prefer that Isabela be a woman who has sex because she enjoys having sex. Not a woman who has sex because she gets shiny things or favors for it.

I think as long as she chooses sex as way to get what she wants when she could just as well kill people instead, this doesn't seem to be in conflict. She chooses to have sex because it's something she enjoys, perhaps more than killing people ... a perfectly sane and quite a bit more humane attitude to take?

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Dr. Doctor wrote...

Well, Izzy throwing Hawke at the enemy might not work out so well...


ugh.......Izzy......that's what my daughter calls our puggle Isabella

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tmp7704 wrote...

Maria Caliban wrote...

In truth, I prefer that Isabela be a woman who has sex because she enjoys having sex. Not a woman who has sex because she gets shiny things or favors for it.

I think as long as she chooses sex as way to get what she wants when she could just as well kill people instead, this doesn't seem to be in conflict. She chooses to have sex because it's something she enjoys, perhaps more than killing people ... a perfectly sane and quite a bit more humane attitude to take?


The vast majority of female characters who use sex to get what they want choose to do it. It's really hard to fit 'uses sex to get what you want' into a rape scenario.

And why does she need to be humane? She's a pirate. They're a group that commits act of violence for personal gain. No one ever suggests that Han Solo, Jack Sparrow, or Long John Silver ought to stop being so mean and just hand out the ****jobs when they want something.

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posting this here too.....you think Isabella resembles Monica?



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Isabella's face is flatter but then again Miranda's face was flatter than Yvonne's

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crimzontearz wrote...



posting this here too.....you think Isabella resembles Monica?




No, not really.

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Liana Nighthawk wrote...

crimzontearz wrote...

posting this here too.....you think Isabella resembles Monica?


No, not really.


meh....maybe it's just me then......

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Isabela runs into Jack Sparrow in the end of DA2, leading PoTC Curse of the No Pants

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What Liana said.

I can see shades of Salma Hayek, but that's it.

As for Isabela's pants, as was mentioned earlier, she is the original owner of the golden/silver pantaloons. A major quest in DA2 will be returning them to her. At which point you'll press a button and she will morph into the giant magical golem-sentinel construct seen in the trailer and brought up in Maria's "What is this?" thread and scream:

"HOW DO Y'LIKE MY ARMOUR NOW, *****ES!"



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Maria Caliban wrote...

The vast majority of female characters who use sex to get what they want choose to do it. It's really hard to fit 'uses sex to get what you want' into a rape scenario.

I'd question how many of these choices happen as result of feeling one actually doesn't have other effective options to achieve their goals, but that would move discussion into too generic area, i think. Let's just say i disagree with you here, and i think Isabela is in very different (and more comfortable) situation.

If you mean that such choices are common for characters in fiction where it's much easier to provide working alternatives... yes, but then so what? Does it somehow alter the enjoyment Isabela likely gets out of her sex, or does it affect her choice in some way? I'm just confused what point is that supposed to make.

And why does she need to be humane?

I didn't say she needs to be humane. That wasn't a demand but just an observation that could be made about her nature, based on what choices she actually makes.

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Maria Caliban wrote...

The vast majority of female characters who use sex to get what they want choose to do it. It's really hard to fit 'uses sex to get what you want' into a rape scenario.


Ever Read the Anita Blake's novels by  Laurell K Hamilton?

that happens to Anita ALL the time after the 3d book -headdesks several times at the memory-

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tmp7704 wrote...
I'm just confused what point is that supposed to make.


I said I'd like to see a woman who enjoyed having sex for its own sake instead of using it to 'get stuff' or manipulate others.

Your response was basically that as long as it's consensual, it's fine.

In my mind, 'she chooses to' is the bare minimum.

Does it somehow alter the enjoyment Isabela likely gets out of her sex, or does it affect her choice in some way?


I'd be thrilled if it did.

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 From what I've seen from Isabela in DAO she's more interested in people who prove to be more or less her equal. For instance, the Warden is one of the best fighters in Ferelden and is also a Grey Warden ergo, they aren't just some mark off the street, the same goes with Zev, he's a highly trained Antivan Crow; someone, who like the Warden  who is near equal to Isabela in combat skills and intellect.

Carver: So, your a pirate right? Why abandon you life of tavern crawling in Kirkwall to go and join us?

Isabela: Please, cheating at cards and fighting drunken sailors can get boring after a while. Besides there's no sport in dealing with an easy mark. Besides being cooped up in the city isn't for me.



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Dont know if it has been mentioned but remember how they had the "women of dragon age" thing where Leliana and Morrigan were with their real-world models..



Are the new "women of dragon age" modeled after real people you think? and will we see that again?

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Tiax Rules All wrote...

Dont know if it has been mentioned but remember how they had the "women of dragon age" thing where Leliana and Morrigan were with their real-world models..

Are the new "women of dragon age" modeled after real people you think? and will we see that again?

I don't know but i doubt it would matter since they didnt end up looking all that similar.

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The sacred ashes trailers were modeled on real women. Not the in-game characters.

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I'm not convinced Victoria Johnson was used for the Ashes Morrigan, she bears more resemblance to the game version.

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Liana Nighthawk wrote...

I'm not convinced Victoria Johnson was used for the Ashes Morrigan, she bears more resemblance to the game version.


Really? Eh, I'd say she looks a good deal like SA Morrigan more than in game Morrigan:

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Really.

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Brockololly wrote...

Liana Nighthawk wrote...

I'm not convinced Victoria Johnson was used for the Ashes Morrigan, she bears more resemblance to the game version.


Really? Eh, I'd say she looks a good deal like SA Morrigan more than in game Morrigan:

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I agree. I think she does, besides, I saw once a picture taken by her before going to work on the modeling of Morrigan.  Perhaps she might look different in some scenes but it was her for the trailer of sacred ashes. As well as Claudia Black being there to record her voice for the trailer.

The same can be said for Alley katze and Corine Kempa.

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I know Morrigan is based off Victoria Johnson but they look nothing alike

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I actually think Victoria looks somewhat similar to Miranda in that particular picture.

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i didnt like them giving yvonne black hair, she looks great in Chuck. lol



since they are using characters from chuck, i would laugh my ass off if they based a male li off of Zachery Levi

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I wish they actually made Leliana's hair red and not orange, but in game both Morrigan and Lel look nothing like their models
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Johnny Chaos wrote...

i didnt like them giving yvonne black hair, she looks great in Chuck. lol

since they are using characters from chuck, i would laugh my ass off if they based a male li off of Zachery Levi

I would probably be all over a Zachary Levi-esque LI. Not as much as Varric but yeah totally cool with that.