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#3251
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moilami wrote...

obnoxiousgas wrote...

Pseudocognition wrote...

Broad, general concern incoming:

Can we cut the possessive tones in here? It's kinda creeping me out. She's not 'yours' but she's not a selfish rude pig either, meaning it's not like you will walk in on her with Carver someone else and she goes SURPRISE THIS WAS AN OPEN RELATIONSHIP ALL ALONG! People discuss these things and set relationship boundaries and expectations up front, if they are sane. And it's not such a dire situation to shelve the promiscuity for a while, not to mention that it's creepy if she's not doing it of her own volition.

Open and frequent communication! :D

If anything I think she'd be wary of commitment but might 'try it' and see if she warms up to the idea. But even then it's not like she's throwing away her former life for youuuu~ Though I suppose you are free to interpret it as such if it happens that way. Which... I suspect some people are eager to do.

Idk. Creepy words get thrown around in here but that's just me. Carry on.


I just pop in here every so often and lurk when I do, but yeah, this. Thank you for summing it up better (and in a less inflammatory way) than I could.


Bah, only cowards are scared of possessive words.

Possibly, but I don't think scared is the right word for it. Disturbed, maybe? Disturbed works. ;)

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Pseudocognition wrote...

Can we cut the possessive tones in here? It's kinda creeping me out. She's not 'yours' but she's not a selfish rude pig either, meaning it's not like you will walk in on her with Carver someone else and she goes SURPRISE THIS WAS AN OPEN RELATIONSHIP ALL ALONG! People discuss these things and set relationship boundaries and expectations up front, if they are sane. And it's not such a dire situation to shelve the promiscuity for a while, not to mention that it's creepy if she's not doing it of her own volition.

Open and frequent communication! :D

If anything I think she'd be wary of commitment but might 'try it' and see if she warms up to the idea. But even then it's not like she's throwing away her former life for youuuu~ Though I suppose you are free to interpret it as such if it happens that way. Which... I suspect some people are eager to do.

Idk. Creepy words get thrown around in here but that's just me. Carry on.


Quoted for great truth, Pseudo. I guess it took a woman to word it properly. This thread gets pretty damn creepy at times, and I hope with all my heart Izzy will remain a strong, indipendent gal throughout the whole game.

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Pseudocognition wrote...

nightcobra8928 wrote...

for some reason i'm getting the the vibe that isabela is to hawke like catwoman is to batman.
on the wrong side of the law, fun to hang out with, dangerous, sexy, and etc...

maybe that's just me


I would approve so much if this happens to be true in-game.


so it's not just me then

i can imagine isabela sneaking inside a tall building (palace) through the windows hidden within the moonless night sky's mantle.:whistle:

Modifié par nightcobra8928, 24 janvier 2011 - 09:45 .


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Pseudocognition wrote...

nightcobra8928 wrote...

 for some reason i'm getting the the vibe that isabela is to hawke like catwoman is to batman.:?
on the wrong side of the law, fun to hang out with, dangerous, sexy, and etc...

maybe that's just me:P


I would approve so much if this happens to be true in-game.


Well, if she is like that, I hope she really have big boobs and skin to show. Would compensate with her unability to say anything interesting. In other words, she would be just like I expect her to be, and which would be fine, very fine. I just hope see keeps her mouth shut when important decisions are made :) Even though opening it would be more IC. Oh well.

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nightcobra8928 wrote...

so it's not just me then

i can imagine isabela sneaking inside a tall building (palace) through the windows hidden within the moonless night sky's mantle.:whistle:


Adam Hughes' catwoman please!

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Fun and sexy :)

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moilami wrote...

Well, if she is like that, I hope she really have big boobs and skin to show. Would compensate with her unability to say anything interesting. In other words, she would be just like I expect her to be, and which would be fine, very fine. I just hope see keeps her mouth shut when important decisions are made :) Even though opening it would be more IC. Oh well.


...do you see anything even slightly misogynistic in what you just wrote?

Modifié par Pseudocognition, 24 janvier 2011 - 09:50 .


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Shepard Lives wrote...



Pseudocognition wrote...

Can we cut the possessive tones in here? It's kinda creeping me out. She's not 'yours' but she's not a selfish rude pig either, meaning it's not like you will walk in on her with Carver someone else and she goes SURPRISE THIS WAS AN OPEN RELATIONSHIP ALL ALONG! People discuss these things and set relationship boundaries and expectations up front, if they are sane. And it's not such a dire situation to shelve the promiscuity for a while, not to mention that it's creepy if she's not doing it of her own volition.

Open and frequent communication! :D

If anything I think she'd be wary of commitment but might 'try it' and see if she warms up to the idea. But even then it's not like she's throwing away her former life for youuuu~ Though I suppose you are free to interpret it as such if it happens that way. Which... I suspect some people are eager to do.

Idk. Creepy words get thrown around in here but that's just me. Carry on.


Quoted for great truth, Pseudo. I guess it took a woman to word it properly. This thread gets pretty damn creepy at times, and I hope with all my heart Izzy will remain a strong, indipendent gal throughout the whole game.


So what was creepy exactly? Do you understand that you are indirectly calling people with names, which is not very proper behaviour anywhere, even in Internet. What are your intentions to do it? To stop people discussing what they expect of Isabella, or only to stop those people who you define "creepy" to stop discussing? Or just call out names? Explain. Remember nothing can change if you don't tell what is creepy.

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Pseudocognition wrote...

nightcobra8928 wrote...

so it's not just me then

i can imagine isabela sneaking inside a tall building (palace) through the windows hidden within the moonless night sky's mantle.:whistle:


Adam Hughes' catwoman please!

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Fun and sexy :)


*scrubs eyes* is it me or is her face similar to isabela? there something about it that gives me that impression.
she also looks like morrigan.

her face is a strange mix of the two to me, not that i don't like it *rowwr*:whistle:

Modifié par nightcobra8928, 24 janvier 2011 - 09:52 .


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Pseudocognition wrote...

moilami wrote...

Well, if she is like that, I hope she really have big boobs and skin to show. Would compensate with her unability to say anything interesting. In other words, she would be just like I expect her to be, and which would be fine, very fine. I just hope see keeps her mouth shut when important decisions are made :) Even though opening it would be more IC. Oh well.


...do you see anything even slightly misogynistic in what you just wrote?


I sense a troll.

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moilami wrote...

Pseudocognition wrote...

nightcobra8928 wrote...

 for some reason i'm getting the the vibe that isabela is to hawke like catwoman is to batman.:?
on the wrong side of the law, fun to hang out with, dangerous, sexy, and etc...

maybe that's just me:P


I would approve so much if this happens to be true in-game.


Well, if she is like that, I hope she really have big boobs and skin to show. Would compensate with her unability to say anything interesting. In other words, she would be just like I expect her to be, and which would be fine, very fine. I just hope see keeps her mouth shut when important decisions are made :) Even though opening it would be more IC. Oh well.


That's easily the stupidest thing that was ever said in this thread.

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moilami wrote...
So what was creepy exactly? Do you understand that you are indirectly calling people with names, which is not very proper behaviour anywhere, even in Internet. What are your intentions to do it? To stop people discussing what they expect of Isabella, or only to stop those people who you define "creepy" to stop discussing? Or just call out names? Explain. Remember nothing can change if you don't tell what is creepy.


Personally, I found the part where you suggested that you will kill her for not being the way you want her just a taaaaad bit creepy.

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CardonT wrote...

My only concern for Isabela so far is: will she be just like morrigan? 
Joining the player in his/her tent/bed after 2 conversations + a necklace but calling every woman a wench that gives the PC a kiss on the cheek for saving her life?


I doubt she's as judgmental as Morrigan.

Pseudocognition wrote...

Can we cut the possessive tones in here? It's kinda creeping me out. She's not 'yours' but she's not a selfish rude pig either, meaning it's not like you will walk in on her with Carver someone else and she goes SURPRISE THIS WAS AN OPEN RELATIONSHIP ALL ALONG! People discuss these things and set relationship boundaries and expectations up front, if they are sane. And it's not such a dire situation to shelve the promiscuity for a while, not to mention that it's creepy if she's not doing it of her own volition.


Indeed. Though to be in an open relationship, you have to be in a relationship. I don't classify sleeping with someone after only knowing them for a short while as being in a relationship with them.

I assume with Isabela, it's an opt-in system. If you want to have a serious, committed relationship with her, you'll have to bring it up with her and convince her to try it.

Ammonite wrote...

Personally, I found the part where you suggested that you will kill her for not being the way you want her just a taaaaad bit creepy.


I think he threatened to kill crimzon, not Isabela.

Modifié par Maria Caliban, 24 janvier 2011 - 09:54 .


#3263
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Pseudocognition wrote...

moilami wrote...

Well, if she is like that, I hope she really have big boobs and skin to show. Would compensate with her unability to say anything interesting. In other words, she would be just like I expect her to be, and which would be fine, very fine. I just hope see keeps her mouth shut when important decisions are made :) Even though opening it would be more IC. Oh well.


...do you see anything even slightly misogynistic in what you just wrote?


Please don't try to take this discussion on my personality. It is by far big time off-topic. There is no need for you to think my personality - much less discuss it with me, and there is absolutely no reason for you to discuss my personality in this forum.


Edit: Not to forget I am not interested to discus my personality with you. So I will block you in case you try to do any foul attempts to discuss my personality with me in private messages.

Modifié par moilami, 24 janvier 2011 - 09:56 .


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As long as she doesn't make cat puns, I'll be fine.

Modifié par Atakuma, 24 janvier 2011 - 09:54 .


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Maria Caliban wrote...
Indeed. Though to be in an open relationship, you have to be in a relationship. I don't classify sleeping with someone after only knowing them for a short while as being in a relationship with them.

I assume with Isabela, it's an opt-in system. If you want to have a serious, committed relationship with her, you'll have to bring it up with her and convince her to try it.


Ah, well, emphasis on 'open.'

That's what I was thinking as well.

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So... I didn't quite get the concern about the possessive language. I just intended to express my fear that she would be another leading female character that gives your PC a hard time if he/she chooses to romance her. Or wasn't I meant at all?

Modifié par CardonT, 24 janvier 2011 - 09:55 .


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moilami wrote...

Please don't try to take this discussion on my personality. It is by far big time off-topic. There is no need for you to think my personality - much less discuss it with me, and there is absolutely no reason for you to discuss my personality in this forum.


I think I am well within my unspoken internet rights to call you on posting an opinion with extraordinarily misogynistic and offensive overtones.

CardonT wrote...

So... I didn't quite get the concern
about the possessive language. I just intended to express my fear that
she would be another leading female character that gives your PC a hard
time if he/she chooses to romance her. Or wasn't I meant at all?


The rant didn't apply to you, then. My bad for the confusing timing of my post.

Modifié par Pseudocognition, 24 janvier 2011 - 09:56 .


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Atakuma wrote...

As long as she doesn't make cat puns, I'll be fine.


like this?:P

"I win because I cheat, Kitten. I thought that was obvious"

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nightcobra8928 wrote...

Atakuma wrote...

As long as she doesn't make cat puns, I'll be fine.


like this?:P

"I win because I cheat, Kitten. I thought that was obvious"


Oh no! It's already begun!

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CardonT wrote...

So... I didn't quite get the concern about the possessive language. I just intended to express my fear that she would be another leading female character that gives your PC a hard time if he/she chooses to romance her. Or wasn't I meant at all?


Hmm, I think they're just saying that it's not cool to treat Isabela like she's yours or like a thing just because you're romancing her.

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If you play a femHawke, she won't call you kitten, apparently.

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so isabela might equal to a mix between catwoman, han solo and malcom reynolds...can a game withhold so much awesomeness?:innocent:

Modifié par nightcobra8928, 24 janvier 2011 - 09:59 .


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Atakuma wrote...

As long as she doesn't make cat puns, I'll be fine.


"This is some sort of puurr-fidious trick! I bet it's done with mirrors."



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Dhiro wrote...

CardonT wrote...

So... I didn't quite get the concern about the possessive language. I just intended to express my fear that she would be another leading female character that gives your PC a hard time if he/she chooses to romance her. Or wasn't I meant at all?


Hmm, I think they're just saying that it's not cool to treat Isabela like she's yours or like a thing just because you're romancing her.


Good on me, for I never did that.

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Ammonite wrote...

If you play a femHawke, she won't call you kitten, apparently.


I bet Sheryl cooked up an equally awesome nickname for the ladies.