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Liablecocksman

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moilami wrote...
(I have been thinking about changing it to my favorite, but that portrait has special value for me because it portraits my face in a way I managed to do for my first char in reasonable short time. Now the thing is pretty much settled, I might keep it for your brother's sake even though it disappoints you for some reason.)

So... You're assuming I have a down-syndrome half-brother, and weren't referring to your avatar being that very half-brother to mine. To my avatar, that is.

You then, assuming I have a down-syndrome half-brother, cannot fathom how I am disappointed with your avatar, as you thought your might keep it, if only to make me and my half-brother happy.

That is... Incredible. Thank you. Please keep the avatar. I'm very pleased you offered yourself in such a way... I mean, that is incredibly unselfish of you, to allow me control of your profile like that. I realise that you do not feel forced, but must assure you that it is still your own decision.

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Liable****sman wrote...

moilami wrote...
(I have been thinking about changing it to my favorite, but that portrait has special value for me because it portraits my face in a way I managed to do for my first char in reasonable short time. Now the thing is pretty much settled, I might keep it for your brother's sake even though it disappoints you for some reason.)

So... You're assuming I have a down-syndrome half-brother, and weren't referring to your avatar being that very half-brother to mine. To my avatar, that is.

You then, assuming I have a down-syndrome half-brother, cannot fathom how I am disappointed with your avatar, as you thought your might keep it, if only to make me and my half-brother happy.

That is... Incredible. Thank you. Please keep the avatar. I'm very pleased you offered yourself in such a way... I mean, that is incredibly unselfish of you, to allow me control of your profile like that. I realise that you do not feel forced, but must assure you that it is still your own decision.


Yeah, assuming, not believing. I will have to keep thinkin then about the avatar.

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I'm guessing "Kitten" will be the nickname for Merrill, Carver or Bethany.

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Will both of you shut up?



moilami, you either young and immature and thus you should get off the forums for a game whose age rating rules you out as a legal buyer, a troll, or a mysonginistic ass**** who needs to sort their **** out and rejoin us here in the 21st century.



Liable****sman, just let it go.





Now what do we reckon Izzy's opinion of Seb will be.

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I wonder what Varric's nickname for Hawke is.

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Ryzaki wrote...

I wonder what Varric's nickname for Hawke is.


Chicken Chaser.

#3332
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Haven't you seen the comic over at the Varric thread?

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Pseudocognition wrote...

Broad, general concern incoming:

Can we cut the possessive tones in here? It's kinda creeping me out. She's not 'yours' but she's not a selfish rude pig either, meaning it's not like you will walk in on her with Carver someone else and she goes SURPRISE THIS WAS AN OPEN RELATIONSHIP ALL ALONG! People discuss these things and set relationship boundaries and expectations up front, if they are sane. And it's not such a dire situation to shelve the promiscuity for a while, not to mention that it's creepy if she's not doing it of her own volition.

Open and frequent communication! :D

If anything I think she'd be wary of commitment but might 'try it' and see if she warms up to the idea. But even then it's not like she's throwing away her former life for youuuu~ Though I suppose you are free to interpret it as such if it happens that way. Which... I suspect some people are eager to do.

Idk. Creepy words get thrown around in here but that's just me. Carry on.


so uhm.....you do imply "possession" (not ownership) each time you say something on the lines of "she is my girlfriend". 

But that's not the place for such a debate. There is nothing wrong with being possessive as long as it does not become harmful to the relationship. 99.99% of the characters I play are of the possessive sort and I am possessive (and jealous often I have to admitt) in real life as well.
Sure, Isabela will not throw her old life away for my Hawke (GOD that sounded dirty even to me) but you know what? like in every other relationship of the sort, fictional or otherwise (with someone who is "open" and non commital), if in the end she chooses Hawke for an exclusive relationship she chose him. Him over everyone else. It is not a matter of taming or forcing or taking but a matter of her surrendering herself to him by the very choice that binds her, by her own will, to him. And that makes Hawke special, unique, if anything to Isabela herself enough so that she (again) chose him. 

Maybe this means nothing to some and everything to others but ultimately, to me, that makes Isabela mine (or my Hawke's)  just as much as it makes me (or my Hawke) hers.



or maybe I have just a very screwed view of  relationships....and so does my wife.....


as a side note the name Hawke is getting to be way too inconvenient for comfort. :innocent:

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"Possessiveness" to me means that you cannot trust your SO to stay with you of their own free will. If there's not enough trust to have even that unspoken guarantee, then it's kind of a crap relationship.

"My girlfriend" is not the same as some of the "SHE IS MINE ALSDJF;LASJKFAS KILL ALL WHO STAND IN MY WAY OF HER" that goes on here (not necessarily by you) and actually in some other character threads as well. Though there is more I take issue with than just that but whatever.

a matter of her surrendering herself to him by the very choice that
binds her, by her own will, to him.


...uh. Yeah I don't think there's any surrendering going on. Surrender implies resignation.

Modifié par Pseudocognition, 25 janvier 2011 - 12:30 .


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Pseudocognition wrote...

"Possessiveness" to me means that you cannot trust your SO to stay with you of their own free will. If there's not enough trust to have even that unspoken guarantee, then it's kind of a crap relationship.


fear is irrational, why are some people ever so afraid of a tiny little spider? so much that they cannot even move if the arachnid is too close?


For some people the biggest fear is being left by the one he/she loves even tho it is irrational and all hints and clues hint to the utter improbability of that event.

But that is not even it, my wife is possessive about me as I am possessive about her and we have been together since 2000 in something I would call anything but a crap relationship, actually we both enjoy that side of each other's personality even tho tempered by common sense (I'm not about to throw a fit each time someone pays her a compliment ).....perhaps it makes us feel special, perhaps it makes us feel wanted because we enjoy that specific reminder of it. It does not matter, even if it was all unspoken and no "creepy words" were thrown around I would still be hers and she would still be mine :wub:

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Pseudocognition wrote...

"Possessiveness" to me means that you cannot trust your SO to stay with you of their own free will. If there's not enough trust to have even that unspoken guarantee, then it's kind of a crap relationship.

"My girlfriend" is not the same as some of the "SHE IS MINE ALSDJF;LASJKFAS KILL ALL WHO STAND IN MY WAY OF HER" that goes on here (not necessarily by you) and actually in some other character threads as well. Though there is more I take issue with than just that but whatever.

a matter of her surrendering herself to him by the very choice that
binds her, by her own will, to him.


...uh. Yeah I don't think there's any surrendering going on. Surrender implies resignation.


I think you should stop being overly sensitive. That is not what "surrender" means, in this context.
Sure, the other guy had some creepy posts, but now you're implying something of the same sort in your last note there, on the quote.

In any relationship in real life - any working relationship, anyway, I'm sure you can agree that those implicated surrender to eachother. In a playthrough of DA2, I'm sure the way to ultimately "turn" Isabella off being how she is, and instead into a monogamous relationship with Hawke, is to firstly surrender to her. Displaying genuine affection, lowering your defenses, and making it possible for the other part to hurt you.
That's what crimzontears is talking about.

Modifié par Liablecocksman, 25 janvier 2011 - 12:38 .


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Pseudocognition wrote...

a matter of her surrendering herself to him by the very choice that
binds her, by her own will, to him.

...uh. Yeah I don't think there's any surrendering going on. Surrender implies resignation.

only if you assign that connotationton it, I do not

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crimzontearz wrote...
only if you assign that connotationton it, I do not

Not to worry, I already told her what you meant.

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why thank you....I am slow on my smartphone tonight....

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Pseudocognition wrote...

"Possessiveness" to me means that you cannot trust your SO to stay with you of their own free will. If there's not enough trust to have even that unspoken guarantee, then it's kind of a crap relationship.

"My girlfriend" is not the same as some of the "SHE IS MINE ALSDJF;LASJKFAS KILL ALL WHO STAND IN MY WAY OF HER" that goes on here (not necessarily by you) and actually in some other character threads as well. Though there is more I take issue with than just that but whatever.

a matter of her surrendering herself to him by the very choice that
binds her, by her own will, to him.


...uh. Yeah I don't think there's any surrendering going on. Surrender implies resignation.


I cry every day I think someone play DA in a way I don't want. I just can't stand it! Imagine someone being possessive to Morrigan *cries loudly* It can happen any times *cries moar* How sick! It is my game, I say what is the right way to play with pixel doll! I did the same when I was a 7 years old a few years ago! I said every barbie is my barbie! *cries moar*

*snif*

*sobs*

*begins to cry loud*

NOOOOOO! Someone is again possessing my Morrigan *begins to cry hysterically*

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moilami wrote...

I cry every day I think someone play DA in a way I don't want.


I'd consider how thoroughly this entire discussion centered around your view of Isebala has flown right over your head a downright shocking display of ignorance if it wasn't so predictable.

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AnimaTempli101 wrote...

Will both of you shut up?

moilami, you either young and immature and thus you should get off the forums for a game whose age rating rules you out as a legal buyer, a troll, or a mysonginistic ass**** who needs to sort their **** out and rejoin us here in the 21st century.

Liable****sman, just let it go.


Now what do we reckon Izzy's opinion of Seb will be.


*cries hysterically*

My game! My pixel dolls! Me am are sure you are doing something dirty to Isabella in DA2! Why so big boobs!!! WHY WHY WHY! So unrealistical! They are!! Everyone says so in BioWare forums. *cries* Me know he is just sick. Me should call police! HEELP, police help someone wants to posses Isabella in the future, and wants her to have big boobs. That is just sick and immature!! So sick *cries before a nervous breakdown comes*


* * *

Who is possessive?

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Yeah... well... I'd call it obsessive if the feminism goes that far that one would even judge the way someone ROLEPLAYS a character in a VIDEOGAME.



Gosh... sometimes I enjoy playing a jerk character, that's what these games are for.

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Upsettingshorts wrote...

moilami wrote...

I cry every day I think someone play DA in a way I don't want.


I'd consider how thoroughly this entire discussion centered around your view of Isebala has flown right over your head a downright shocking display of ignorance if it wasn't so predictable.


Ouch, critical hit :wizard:

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moilami wrote...

*cries hysterically*

My game! My pixel dolls! Me am are sure you are doing something dirty to Isabella in DA2! Why so big boobs!!! WHY WHY WHY! So unrealistical! They are!! Everyone says so in BioWare forums. *cries* Me know he is just sick. Me should call police! HEELP, police help someone wants to posses Isabella in the future, and wants her to have big boobs. That is just sick and immature!! So sick *cries before a nervous breakdown comes*


Please stop this. You're not impressing anyone and it adds nothing to the thread.

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Count Viceroy wrote...

Upsettingshorts wrote...

moilami wrote...

I cry every day I think someone play DA in a way I don't want.


I'd consider how thoroughly this entire discussion centered around your view of Isebala has flown right over your head a downright shocking display of ignorance if it wasn't so predictable.


Ouch, critical hit :wizard:


I see them just overreacting. Could help to be less possessive of Isabella, and accept the fact that everyone can have their opinion of Isabella and everyone can play Dragan Age in a way they want, and there is nothing wrong in it.

But on the other hand, being so very possessive and sensitive about how someone plays Dragon Age and treats Isabella or what he expects of Isabella is definetly, hmm, something to think about.

Dunno, I think I will posses Isabella right away I get the game and find her. Just for lols.

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moilami wrote...
I see them just overreacting. Could help to be less possessive of Isabella, and accept the fact that everyone can have their opinion of Isabella and everyone can play Dragan Age in a way they want, and there is nothing wrong in it.

But on the other hand, being so very possessive and sensitive about how someone plays Dragon Age and treats Isabella or what he expects of Isabella is definetly, hmm, something to think about.

Dunno, I think I will posses Isabella right away I get the game and find her. Just for lols.


So when you say you will "posses Isabella right away" after you "find her", what does that mean, exactly?

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Maria Caliban wrote...

moilami wrote...

*cries hysterically*

My game! My pixel dolls! Me am are sure you are doing something dirty to Isabella in DA2! Why so big boobs!!! WHY WHY WHY! So unrealistical! They are!! Everyone says so in BioWare forums. *cries* Me know he is just sick. Me should call police! HEELP, police help someone wants to posses Isabella in the future, and wants her to have big boobs. That is just sick and immature!! So sick *cries before a nervous breakdown comes*


Please stop this. You're not impressing anyone and it adds nothing to the thread.


Only because you ask.

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Maria Caliban wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...

I wonder what Varric's nickname for Hawke is.


Chicken Chaser.


Oh god I hated that name in Fable.

Seriously I spent the first half of the game facepalming everytim I heard that.

And I didn't want to waste money changing the name. <_<

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moilami wrote...

Only because you ask.


Thank you. :)

Ryzaki wrote...

Oh god I hated that name in Fable.

Seriously I spent the first half of the game facepalming everytim I heard that.

And I didn't want to waste money changing the name. <_<


First thing I did was change it. Not like I was strapped for cash.