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hoorayforicecream wrote...
Alistairlover94 wrote...
Only because Hawke made the suggestion. If she didn't, i'm sure Isabela would've happily dropped her imaginary pants for him. As she said "she can **** herself out".
I'm sure it makes sense in your mind. We'll just have to agree to disagree.
The refusal may have also been due in part to how he spoke of women, and his drooling desire for their touch.Master Shiori wrote...
Alistairlover94 wrote...
Only because Hawke made the suggestion. If she didn't, i'm sure Isabela would've happily dropped her imaginary pants for him. As she said "she can **** herself out".
She refused to bed him because of his looks, not because Hawke made a suggestion.
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Master Shiori wrote...
Alistairlover94 wrote...
Only because Hawke made the suggestion. If she didn't, i'm sure Isabela would've happily dropped her imaginary pants for him. As she said "she can **** herself out".
She refused to bed him because of his looks, not because Hawke made a suggestion.
Modifié par bleetman, 15 mai 2011 - 07:10 .
Alistairlover94 wrote...
Master Shiori wrote...
Alistairlover94 wrote...
Only because Hawke made the suggestion. If she didn't, i'm sure Isabela would've happily dropped her imaginary pants for him. As she said "she can **** herself out".
She refused to bed him because of his looks, not because Hawke made a suggestion.
No. She refused because Hawke was trying to be her P.I.M.P.
bleetman wrote...
Damn those women and their sexual liberty. Who do they think they are, men?
/monocle
(Yes, this is sarcasm. Feel free not to obliterate me. I prefer not being obliterated. I do sometimes wonder how much of the ire directed at Isabela is because she sleeps around, or because she's a woman who sleeps around, which is probably unfair of me.)
bleetman wrote...
Damn those women and their sexual liberty. Who do they think they are, men?
/monocle
(Yes, this is sarcasm. Feel free not to obliterate me. I prefer not being obliterated. I do sometimes wonder how much of the ire directed at Isabela is because she sleeps around, or because she's a woman who sleeps around, which is probably unfair of me.)
bleetman wrote...
(Yes, this is sarcasm. Feel free not to obliterate me. I prefer not being obliterated. I do sometimes wonder how much of the ire directed at Isabela is because she sleeps around, or because she's a woman who sleeps around, which is probably unfair of me.)
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Blansten wrote...
Alistairlover94 wrote...
Master Shiori wrote...
Alistairlover94 wrote...
Only because Hawke made the suggestion. If she didn't, i'm sure Isabela would've happily dropped her imaginary pants for him. As she said "she can **** herself out".
She refused to bed him because of his looks, not because Hawke made a suggestion.
No. She refused because Hawke was trying to be her P.I.M.P.
Correct me if I'm wrong but that seems a lot like an opinion to me, which means it can't really be stated as fact. In my opinion Isabela was once again demonstrating that she does indeed have standards ... then again I also don't buy into the idea of "anything with or without a pulse"
Modifié par Alistairlover94, 15 mai 2011 - 07:24 .
TheBlackBaron wrote...
bleetman wrote...
(Yes, this is sarcasm. Feel free not to obliterate me. I prefer not being obliterated. I do sometimes wonder how much of the ire directed at Isabela is because she sleeps around, or because she's a woman who sleeps around, which is probably unfair of me.)
The latter, for sure. In fact, I would say that she sometimes gets more ire for that than for, say, stealing the Tome ofCouslandKoslun.
In my experience, other women especially tend to judge harshly because of that.
Alistairlover94 wrote...
It is. That's just how I perceive the character. She doesn't have standards. She simply does nt like being told who to sleep with(Please don't flame me!)
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ishmaeltheforsaken wrote...
Alistairlover94 wrote...
It is. That's just how I perceive the character. She doesn't have standards. She simply does nt like being told who to sleep with(Please don't flame me!)
Your perception necessitates that she's lying when she explicitly states that she has standards (is not flaming you).
whykikyouwhy wrote...
TheBlackBaron wrote...
bleetman wrote...
(Yes, this is sarcasm. Feel free not to obliterate me. I prefer not being obliterated. I do sometimes wonder how much of the ire directed at Isabela is because she sleeps around, or because she's a woman who sleeps around, which is probably unfair of me.)
The latter, for sure. In fact, I would say that she sometimes gets more ire for that than for, say, stealing the Tome ofCouslandKoslun.
In my experience, other women especially tend to judge harshly because of that.
I've actually seen a lot of criticism/ire/vitriol from men-folk. Which is interesting. Were I a psych major, I would be having a field day.
Alistairlover94 wrote...
ishmaeltheforsaken wrote...
Your perception necessitates that she's lying when she explicitly states that she has standards (is not flaming you).
Perhaps she was lying. You never know with Isabela. Perhaps she's a compulsive liar, as well as a nymphomaniac *shrug*
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hoorayforicecream wrote...
whykikyouwhy wrote...
TheBlackBaron wrote...
bleetman wrote...
(Yes, this is sarcasm. Feel free not to obliterate me. I prefer not being obliterated. I do sometimes wonder how much of the ire directed at Isabela is because she sleeps around, or because she's a woman who sleeps around, which is probably unfair of me.)
The latter, for sure. In fact, I would say that she sometimes gets more ire for that than for, say, stealing the Tome ofCouslandKoslun.
In my experience, other women especially tend to judge harshly because of that.
I've actually seen a lot of criticism/ire/vitriol from men-folk. Which is interesting. Were I a psych major, I would be having a field day.
In western culture, there's a pretty severe dichotomy in women's gender roles - men are raised to desire "A lady on the arm, and a **** in the bedroom". Someone like Leliana can easily be classified into such a role, which is a reason why so many people complaining about the romances in DA2 look to Leliana as an example of an awesome romance done right.
With women, it's partially because of how enforced our gender roles tend to be. We squabble and fight among ourselves for dominance just like anyone. The "accepted" role is the male-supported one, so the female denigrators tend to try to exclude women like Isabela because they fall outside of societal norms. The only response to this is that such women must be shunned. It happened when women started wearing skirts shorter than ankle-length, it started when women started to vote, and it started when women started going to work alongside the men. I'm sure it will happen in the future as well over other things we currently view as acceptable.
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bleetman wrote...
Alistairlover94 wrote...
ishmaeltheforsaken wrote...
Your perception necessitates that she's lying when she explicitly states that she has standards (is not flaming you).
Perhaps she was lying. You never know with Isabela. Perhaps she's a compulsive liar, as well as a nymphomaniac *shrug*
Maybe she also eats babies, and is actually a man. You never know with Isabela!
She could be compulsively lying about who and what she is for the entirety of the game, sure. She could also not be, which doesn't require such a leap of assumption. I think it's fairer to say she isn't. That a person hides some of who they are doesn't mean they hide everything.
Alistairlover94 wrote...
She'll do anything with a pulse. Which brings me to my next question...is she possibly a necrophiliac?
Modifié par Zjarcal, 15 mai 2011 - 07:56 .
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Zjarcal wrote...
Alistairlover94 wrote...
She'll do anything with a pulse. Which brings me to my next question...is she possibly a necrophiliac?
Yes, I'm sure after every fight she told Hawke to go on, she'll stay back "dealing with the bodies" for a few minutes... <_<
Honestly, that has got to be one of the most ridiculous comments I've ever seen and I fail to see what's the point of brining it up here other than to incite anger from her fans... aka, trolling.
Modifié par Alistairlover94, 15 mai 2011 - 08:00 .
You want a serious answer then?Alistairlover94 wrote...
Woah, woah, no need to be hostile. I was merely asking a question out of curiosity, not to spite her fanboys/fangirls.
"I'll make this quick. I... (Laughs) Well, you know how I feel, and saying anything more would just be... too much."
"Just know that I'm going to try my best to keep us both alive. I have plans for us, and most of them involve nakedness."
hoorayforicecream wrote...
On a related note to that, I found some lines in the talk table that were evidently left out of the final game. They certainly *sound* like they'd come from a romanced Isabela, and they are in the table directly above where her actual end-of-game lines start."I'll make this quick. I... (Laughs) Well, you know how I feel, and saying anything more would just be... too much."
"Just know that I'm going to try my best to keep us both alive. I have plans for us, and most of them involve nakedness."
Blansten wrote...
hoorayforicecream wrote...
On a related note to that, I found some lines in the talk table that were evidently left out of the final game. They certainly *sound* like they'd come from a romanced Isabela, and they are in the table directly above where her actual end-of-game lines start."I'll make this quick. I... (Laughs) Well, you know how I feel, and saying anything more would just be... too much."
"Just know that I'm going to try my best to keep us both alive. I have plans for us, and most of them involve nakedness."
I choose to live in a universe where those lines are Isabela's ... I would rather live in a universe where she actually says them in the game.
Xilizhra wrote...
Is Isabela's rivalry path any good?
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