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[hoorayforicecream]

Master Shiori wrote...

whykikyouwhy wrote...

What? No "tiger between the sheets?"

That one is a given and, considering Isabela's experience, is high praise indeed.

It 's funny. After she cups Hawke's joining the first time, she talks about how Zevran is an "artist", but by the time she meets Zev years later, she looks directly at Hawke and says "I've had better". 

[Master Shiori]

hoorayforicecream wrote...

Master Shiori wrote...

whykikyouwhy wrote...

What? No "tiger between the sheets?"

That one is a given and, considering Isabela's experience, is high praise indeed.

It 's funny. After she cups Hawke's joining the first time, she talks about how Zevran is an "artist", but by the time she meets Zev years later, she looks directly at Hawke and says "I've had better". 

The funny thing is she says the same line regardless of whether or not Hawke slept with her. The way I see it it's more of a statement of who she prefers to be with, rather than a comparisson of their individual sexual proves.

Modifié par Master Shiori, 31 mai 2011 - 10:04 .

[Maria Caliban]

Chugster wrote...

I like to think Hawke calls Izzy 'her saucy wench'

In that case, my Hawke has a gift for Izzy.

Modifié par Maria Caliban, 01 juin 2011 - 09:28 .

[Chugster]

hmm, now what would Izzy do with all that gravy?

[Chugster]

Hey guys, do you think there would be any RP reasons why Izzy would be an archer?

Im doing a DW rogue next and although i want Izzy in my group, im not sure if i want 2 DWers, and i kinda need to justify it to myself

[axl99]

We've already got two archers, two warriors, two mages.... so why not two DW rogues?

[Chugster]

axl99 wrote...

We've already got two archers, two warriors, two mages.... so why not two DW rogues?

well i could, but i do like having a ranged dps, they have good AOE and threat control...I used an Izzy archer in my last warrior run and she was good but it just felt a bit odd, i need an ingame reason so i can enjoy using her in that way

I have a few days to decide, doing a speed run through DAO to set up my next run

[Master Shiori]

RP reasons?

Well, if I remember correctly, the description for Adder of Antiva said how antivan pirates were accomplished archers, able to accurately pick off important opponents during naval engagements. Since Izzy spent some time in Antiva, you could claim that she picked up a few archery tricks there, in addition to her dueling talents.

[hoorayforicecream]

I've got a discussion topic.

We never get to see Isabela interact with Carver of Bethany in Act 2 or beyond, and that's when she (potentially) starts a relationship with Hawke. So how would the twins react to Isabela being with Hawke? How would Isabela act toward the twins if she is with Hawke?

[Lenimph]

I think Bethany would be happy for them, but would keep her distance for fear of hearing TMI from Isabela.

Carver would just freak out in jealousy and disgust.

Isabela would tease both of them accordingly.

Modifié par Lenimph, 01 juin 2011 - 06:07 .

[Master Shiori]

Isabela/Bethany

I imagine Izzy would threat Bethany in a similar way she does Merrill. Beth might be looking up to Isabela as someone who is more experienced when it comes to potential lovers and, therefore, is capable of advising Beth on the matter.
Initialy though, Bethany would probably be concerned whether Isabela truly loves Hawke or if this is simply some kind of a longer fling that will eventually end and, thus, break her older sisters heart. Ofc, in time she'd come to realize how much Hawke means to Isabela and fully support their relationship.
Hawke, however, is likely to be protective of Bethany and keep a close eye on both Izzy and Beth to make sure Isabela's influence doesn't rub off her innocent sister too much.


Isabela/Carver

Isabela would keep making fun of Carver and throw in a few sexuals provocations, most likely about his older sister's sexual proves. But she'd make sure it was all friendly and in good taste.
Carver would likely reply in kind, both to Hawke and  Isabela, but would be carefull not to push it past friendly jabs. Looking through his banter with Izzy in Act 1, I don't think he was ever really interested in her, so probably wouldn't be jealous of her relationship with Hawke. Like Bethany, he'd accept their relationship sooner or later.

[Beerfish]

Maria Caliban wrote...

Chugster wrote...

I like to think Hawke calls Izzy 'her saucy wench'

In that case, my Hawke has a gift for Izzy.

That is a Rivani fertility symbol!  How can you post such a disgusting thing on these forums!  Can't you see the intertwined....ermmmm....ummm.......and the looped.....ahh....ummmm

[hoorayforicecream]

Some interesting replies. Do you think the sibling attitude would change based on circle/templar or warden paths?

[Master Shiori]

hoorayforicecream wrote...

Some interesting replies. Do you think the sibling attitude would change based on circle/templar or warden paths?

Carver would definitely be different as a warden. More sure of himself and proud of what he accomplished during his time in the order. Thus less bitter of Hawke.
As a templar, it really depends on whether we're talking about Carver before or after the Final Straw. Before, he'd be his usual bitter self. After, he would be more confident due to having stood up to Meredith and helping Hawke.

Bethany as circle mage would be the same as she was in act 1. Not sure about Warden Bethany, since I never made her join them.

[bleetman]

I imagine so yes. Carver is, after all, far less of an intolerable cretin as a warden than as a templar, whilst Bethany comes across as somewhat bitter about the whole thing. If I'm understanding her reasons correctly ('I ended up tainted and he/she walked out unharmed and become rich and famous, how is that fair') she might even be resentful of Hawke walking off with yet another thing she can't have anymore.

Unless Nathaniel's giving her some strange on the side, that is. I still haven't ruled that possibility out.

Modifié par bleetman, 01 juin 2011 - 06:33 .

[hoorayforicecream]

Master Shiori wrote...

hoorayforicecream wrote...

Some interesting replies. Do you think the sibling attitude would change based on circle/templar or warden paths?

Carver would definitely be different as a warden. More sure of himself and proud of what he accomplished during his time in the order. Thus less bitter of Hawke.
As a templar, it really depends on whether we're talking about Carver before or after the Final Straw. Before, he'd be his usual bitter self. After, he would be more confident due to having stood up to Meredith and helping Hawke.

Bethany as circle mage would be the same as she was in act 1. Not sure about Warden Bethany, since I never made her join them.

I'm curious why you think that Circle Bethany and Templar Carver wouldn't necessarily grow or change much while in the Gallows. I always thought that their experiences there outside of Hawke's watchful eye is what allowed them to mature more. I thought Hawke, as the overprotective older sister, kind of coddled them.

[bleetman]

hoorayforicecream wrote...

I'm curious why you think that Circle Bethany and Templar Carver wouldn't necessarily grow or change much while in the Gallows. I always thought that their experiences there outside of Hawke's watchful eye is what allowed them to mature more. I thought Hawke, as the overprotective older sister, kind of coddled them.

I don't know, templar Carver still came across as the biggest tool in the shed, and circle Bethany still acts a bit limp. They obviously develop too, if Carver's metaphorical bro fist moment towards the end is anything to go by, but it's both more subtle than their warden incarnations, and they just plain recieve less face time. I'd find it difficult to really pin down in what ways they'd developed.

Modifié par bleetman, 01 juin 2011 - 06:50 .

[shotgun-shepard]

No idea about Carver, I haven't played as a mage yet so he always gets ogred. Bethany would probably be happy if not a little bit embarassed and yes, Isabela would take every opportunity to reveal something devilish and TMI about big sister Hawke.

This reminds me of my last palythrough, where I had the conversation with Leandra about her looking for a husband for Hawke...this happened right after Isabela's 'love scene'. I can imagine Hawke pleading Isabela to leave without being seen so that Leandra's husband-finding dreams aren't crushed. Of course that's got to take effort when Isabela's sash invariably ends up hanging from the chandelier...lucky that Sandal is always on hand.

I love my imagination.

[Master Shiori]

hoorayforicecream wrote...

Master Shiori wrote...

hoorayforicecream wrote...

Some interesting replies. Do you think the sibling attitude would change based on circle/templar or warden paths?

Carver would definitely be different as a warden. More sure of himself and proud of what he accomplished during his time in the order. Thus less bitter of Hawke.
As a templar, it really depends on whether we're talking about Carver before or after the Final Straw. Before, he'd be his usual bitter self. After, he would be more confident due to having stood up to Meredith and helping Hawke.

Bethany as circle mage would be the same as she was in act 1. Not sure about Warden Bethany, since I never made her join them.

I'm curious why you think that Circle Bethany and Templar Carver wouldn't necessarily grow or change much while in the Gallows. I always thought that their experiences there outside of Hawke's watchful eye is what allowed them to mature more. I thought Hawke, as the overprotective older sister, kind of coddled them.

For Bethany, being in the circle is more about finally being free to use your magic rather then hide it from others. I don't think she ever felt that Hawke was coddling her as much as protecting her from those who'd fear her and try to do her harm simply for being born a mage. She even tells you that her magic is what shapped the lives of her entire family. Her time in the circle make her realize how mages can be mistreated even when in a "safe enviroment" by those who are supposed to watch them and protect them, but she never held the entire templar order or the Chantry responsible for that, just individual templars.
So Beth would definitely have more first hand experience when it comes to mages and how they're perceived and treated, but I don't see it have an effect on her personality. She would, however, be more confident in herself and more likely to speak her mind without fear of revealing her powers, but this would be because of her older sister's status and reputation. Unlike Carver, she never struck me as someone who wants to make a name for herself, just life as normal a life as possible. That's why she's happy for Hawke to get all the attention.

Templar Carver has basicaly traded living in Hawke's shadow for being in Meredith's iron grip. Considering how the knight commander runs the order in Kirkwall, I doubt he'd be able to do much else than follow her orders to the letter and keep his thoughts to himself. Something that he was allowed to express while with Hawke.
Once, he's taken a stand against Meredith, he would finally be free to pursue his own career within the templars or outside the order.

[Maria Caliban]

No one laughed at my sauce boat picture.

It's okay. My sophisticated and subtle humor isn't for everyone.

hoorayforicecream wrote...

So how would the twins react to Isabela being with Hawke?

Facepalms and hidden-with-a-hand giggling.

How would Isabela act toward the twins if she is with Hawke?

How does Isabela act toward anyone?

Modifié par Maria Caliban, 01 juin 2011 - 08:17 .

[hoorayforicecream]

Maria Caliban wrote...

How would Isabela act toward the twins if she is with Hawke?

How does Isabela act toward anyone?

Differently? She talks about different things with Varric, Sebastian, or Anders. Definitely speaks to Aveline differently than Fenris.

I found it interesting that the only person that Isabela really talks to about her relationship with Hawke is Merrill. I wondered whether the twins would have a different reaction, due to their unique relationship to Hawke.

[shotgun-shepard]

I got the 'I think Hawke likes you' convo with Merrill post questioning belifs in my last playthrough...that was sweet.

You're right, Hoorayforicecream, Isabela opens up to Merrill more than any other companion but maybe its because Merrill is so...well Merrill. She's someone who isn't likely to have a hidden agenda, she's too sweet to hurt anyone intentionally and she hangs off Isabela's every word almost- best place for the pirate to start the 'opening up to people' business IMO.

Have to take this time to say how much I adore the gradual and grinding comraderie that develops between Isabela and Aveline, its such a typical stuck in the middle situation for Hawke and great for laughs...at big girl's expense of course, she can take it!

[hoorayforicecream]

Shotty: The one that got me giggling was the one where Merrill asks why Isabela is smiling. It's subtle, and there's no overt mention of it, but it's also just so cute.

[Master Shiori]

Everything Merrill does or says is cute. The amount of cuteness in that character is unbelievable.

You know Izzy has a heart of gold when she took such liking to Merrill.

[LiquidGrape]

shotgun-shepard wrote...

I got the 'I think Hawke likes you' convo with Merrill post questioning belifs in my last playthrough...that was sweet.

On my first playthrough, I got that banter before my relationship with Isabela had been allowed to progress beyond recurring flirtations (i.e, pre-questioning beliefs).
She sounded unsure and said she had to think about what to make of it all.

I don't think any line of dialogue in a game has ever made me feel quite so anxious.

Modifié par LiquidGrape, 01 juin 2011 - 09:59 .