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[upsettingshorts]

Zanaide wrote...

Upsettingshorts wrote...
Well now you've ruined her for me.

EDI: That was a joke.

[Backstage]

isabela song

Modifié par Backstage, 28 octobre 2010 - 08:02 .

[Aermas]

Why is everyone (including females) holding to the double standard? If man sleeps around he is an "expletive"



By the way I'm a guy, I will let Isabela join Hawke but I have no intention to romance her

[Withidread]

I hate seeing Sheryl anything remotely resembling upset... Perhaps making a fool of myself will help... So I'm going to take another try at the song she associates with Isabela...

Sheryl Chee wrote...

Maria Caliban wrote...

Apparently, 'Down with the Sickness' is a song. (Is very late to the thread.)

Does Isabella have a theme song?

Yes! There is one song that I've always associated with her. But I can't tell you what it is because it's a spoiler. In some ways. If you... ignore most of the meaning of the song.

I still like Alestorm for the band... so if it's not Nancy the Tavern Wench...

Maybe Weiber Und Wein?

[Felene]

Anarya wrote...

AtreiyaN7 wrote...

Anarya wrote...


Here I'll help you out: if the word you're using is one commonly found in a two-line porn descriptor, don't use it.

You'd think these things would be obvious.

I get the feeling he's being deliberately obtuse about it. *rolleyes*

I've had this feeling for awhile but I like to give people the benefit of the doubt.

Yeah, I point that out on the old thread, that is what we get for a rated T forum to discuss a rated M game. /sigh

[Kreid]

Why is people going nuts about Isabela's sexuality when we only had a brief encounter with her in Origins AND any kind of sexual behavior was instigated by the Warden?

Modifié par Creid-X, 28 octobre 2010 - 08:14 .

[Aermas]

To be on topic;



I think her "scarf" is going to be her unique accessory like they had in Origins

[Russalka]

The first trailer got me thinking about one thing. Did Hawke try to force a kiss on Isabela?
Her holding her weapon out and backing into the mist was quite dramatic. Will there be betrayal perhaps?

Modifié par Russalka, 28 octobre 2010 - 08:10 .

[Backstage]

yea, i really like isabela's unigue outfit

[nightcobra]

Russalka wrote...

The first trailer got me thinking about one thing. Did Hawke try to force a kiss on Isabela?
Her holding her weapon out and backing into the mist was quite dramatic. Will there be betrayal perhaps?

or a glimpse at the rivalry romance path?

[Gavinthelocust]

nightcobra8928 wrote...

Russalka wrote...

The first trailer got me thinking about one thing. Did Hawke try to force a kiss on Isabela?
Her holding her weapon out and backing into the mist was quite dramatic. Will there be betrayal perhaps?

or a glimpse at the rivalry romance path?

Oooh, the plot thickens!

[Felene]

Russalka wrote...

The first trailer got me thinking about one thing. Did Hawke try to force a kiss on Isabela?
Her holding her weapon out and backing into the mist was quite dramatic. Will there be betrayal perhaps?

That was "backwards", so its she walks out the mist, got disarmed, and kiss by Hawke.

[Dave of Canada]

Russalka wrote...

The first trailer got me thinking about one thing. Did Hawke try to force a kiss on Isabela?
Her holding her weapon out and backing into the mist was quite dramatic. Will there be betrayal perhaps?

It's in reverse, watch it closely, she draws her sword then drops it and kisses him.

Modifié par Dave of Canada, 28 octobre 2010 - 08:13 .

[Ammonite]

Sheryl Chee wrote...
I watched more Firefly and Star Wars (Original Flavor) while writing her plan, rather than Pirates of the Carribean.

Did any particular aspects of Firefly and Star Wars affect how Isabela turned out more than others? Any characters/scenarios that inspired Isabela?
My apologies if this has already been asked; I jumped in here reading the Bioware-posts and just couldn't let this go (I mean, come on, Firefly! *fangurl mode ACTIVATE!!!!!*).

[Zanaide]

Ammonite wrote...

Did any particular aspects of Firefly and Star Wars affect how Isabela turned out more than others? Any characters/scenarios that inspired Isabela?

The first time Isabela and Hawke meet:

Isabela: Aren't you a little short for a Champion?

[dan108]

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Modifié par Chris Priestly, 28 octobre 2010 - 09:32 .

[Pacifien]

Ammonite wrote...
Did any particular aspects of Firefly and Star Wars affect how Isabela turned out more than others? Any characters/scenarios that inspired Isabela?

I'm just trying to speculate what characters I could see influencing Isabela, and I actually can't quite put my finger on any one. I mean, you have Inara, who doesn't view sex as anything to be ashamed of or taboo in the slightest. Zoe and Princess Leia, two strong women who don't back down from a fight. Well, in Zoe's case, she just stares you down until you break. There's Mal's and Han's carefree attitudes that hide their moments of steely determination. Along with serious attachment to their ships.

I'm going with Mal/Han influence with Inara's sexually liberated attitude. And yes, I'm guessing. Maybe the influence was really Chewbacca. Oh... no... that just... I probably just opened up a can of worms there but I can't bring myself to delete it.

[Russalka]

Dave of Canada wrote...

It's in reverse, watch it closely, she draws her sword then drops it and kisses him.

Thank you, Dave and Felene. My powers of perception are really off lately. And my memory. And my... uh... Nevermind.

So, she hates and loves Hawke? Nice way to hint rivalry.

[nijnij]

I also think the threesome/foursome thing from DA:O is taken far too seriously, as if it were canon. To me, it was more of an easter egg for the immature gamers we are (I don't remember the Pearl being obligatory in order to finish the game). Would you say waking up with two nugs in your bed really broke your RP ? I think at that point, one gets it that it's just the developers trying to have some fun ; you forget about the intrigue for a minute and play along ; the fourth wall is broken. The very fact that prude Alistair could be part of the threesome/foursome IMO shows that it was never meant to be taken so seriously.



Also, the very way we encounter Isabela (if I remember correctly, she duels a guy and has a bunch of others fleeing) shows that she is a determined woman, and probably not that easy. When YOUR warden hints at sex, she says something like "now you've piqued my interest", showing that she is probably choosy, though definitely liberated.



To me, it was quite obvious since my first playthrough that the reason she hangs out at the Pearl in the first place is because she's a sailor, a "tough girl", who likes confrontation and is not afraid of getting picked on by some men since she can clearly defend herself ; not because she's a prostitute at heart. Of all the hangouts in Denerim, apart from the port, the Pearl sounds like the most appropriate for a buccaneer such as herself looking for action (in a non-sexual sense).



As for the romance side, Oghren, who seems pretty naughty himself and has a penchant for shady establishments turns out to be the biggest sweetheart once his personal quest is active (and when searching desperately for Branka), so how could something acceptable for a male character be sacrilegious for a female character anyway ?

[Maconbar]

Pacifien wrote...

dan107 wrote...
Charming or not -- 3 strangers after a 5 minute conversation? That says something about her. Not every, and I would wager hardly any, woman can be persuaded to something like that that quickly unless she's looking for it herself. Regardless of how charming the guy is.

5 minutes gametime. Did you want to sit there for four hours buying her drinks and getting to know her better before the option came up? There were darkspawn needed killing, man. Can't keep a game stuck at the Pearl forever just so it could adequately portray foreplay.

Thank you for pointing this out. It is also relevant to romancing the other companions. In DA:O our actions probably covered 6 months to 1 year as I recall. If that is correct then Morrigan probably doesn't sleep with the warden until she has known him for two months give or take. They have spent a substantial portion of that time together. So the warden and Morrigan starting a romantic relationship isn't necessarily an indication of promiscuity.

I wonder if Varric will discuss Hawke's relationships as part of the framed narrative. It would be funny to see those exaggerated events.

[Maria Caliban]

Anarya wrote...

Ok disregarding the fact that it's not a gangbang...

A gangbang is one person having sex with three or more people. It's usally used for one woman (or man) having sex with three or more men, and it has certain connotations as to the treatment and worth of the person being 'banged' but if you're going by the strict definition, Isabella + Zev + Leliana + PC could be a gangbang.

[AtreiyaN7]

dan108 wrote...

Alright, so my prior incarnation got banned, so I'm just going to respond to these 2 points lest I incur further moderator wrath.

Sheryl Chee wrote...

Yes, you have said you find it odd several times. And David has responded to you at least once saying that we've never managed to please everyone with a love interest. Isabela is no different. Don't like her? Fine, don't romance her. In fact, I believe I mentioned that you don't have to talk to her if you don't want to. But coming on here and repeatedly saying that you find our decision to bring her back odd accomplishes... what exactly? We like Isabela and we wanted to explore her character a bit more. Whether you like it or not, she's here to stay.

To be fair, I initially only said it once. Then when people who hadn't read it (I'm assuming) asked me why I had a problem with Isabela, I answered them.

Felene wrote...

Anarya wrote...

AtreiyaN7 wrote...

Anarya wrote...


Here I'll help you out: if the word you're using is one commonly found in a two-line porn descriptor, don't use it.

You'd think these things would be obvious.

I get the feeling he's being deliberately obtuse about it. *rolleyes*

I've had this feeling for awhile but I like to give people the benefit of the doubt.

Yeah, I point that out on the old thread, that is what we get for a rated T forum to discuss a rated M game. /sigh

Sorry to break up your little lovefest, but if the scene we're talking about could have very easily come from a typical porn movie, those are the discriptors that come to mind. I'd think that that would be obvious.

At any rate, I'm off to enjoy my ban, if I offended anyone, it honestly was not my intention. Take that for what it's worth.

It's not worth a whole lot (to me), seeing as you've consistently been misogynistic and deliberately obtuse about using language that many people find demeaning and offensive. It's not like we're precious and innocent flowers here - we just happen to know when and where it's appropriate to use coarse language. That place is not in this thread.

Meanwhile, you still haven't answered my previous question as to whether or not you hold yourself and other men to same high standards you seem to demand of women who are potential LIs. Want to give a response as to what you think of men who sleep with multiple women? Would you celebrate with them/congratulate them for scoring, or would you castigate them for being men of "loose morals?"

Modifié par AtreiyaN7, 28 octobre 2010 - 08:33 .

[Bruddajakka]

On top of that it's getting old hearing one person repeat the same thing in three different threads. You don't like the fact she possible had a four way with two extremely attractive younger people, and an old lover. Stop repeating yourself.

[Maria Caliban]

Aermas wrote...

Why is everyone (including females) holding to the double standard? If man sleeps around he is an "expletive"

I don't see any female holding to a double standard. I see females who don't think men or women who have several sexual partners are morally less than those who remain chaste.

[mellifera]

Maconbar wrote...

Pacifien wrote...

dan107 wrote...
Charming or not -- 3 strangers after a 5 minute conversation? That says something about her. Not every, and I would wager hardly any, woman can be persuaded to something like that that quickly unless she's looking for it herself. Regardless of how charming the guy is.

5 minutes gametime. Did you want to sit there for four hours buying her drinks and getting to know her better before the option came up? There were darkspawn needed killing, man. Can't keep a game stuck at the Pearl forever just so it could adequately portray foreplay.

Thank you for pointing this out. It is also relevant to romancing the other companions. In DA:O our actions probably covered 6 months to 1 year as I recall. If that is correct then Morrigan probably doesn't sleep with the warden until she has known him for two months give or take. They have spent a substantial portion of that time together. So the warden and Morrigan starting a romantic relationship isn't necessarily an indication of promiscuity.

I wonder if Varric will discuss Hawke's relationships as part of the framed narrative. It would be funny to see those exaggerated events.

For Morrigan sleeping with the Warden the first time I don't necessarily think that's true. It depends more on how early or late in the game you choose to follow through with this, but you can do it pretty early when way less than 2 months should have passed.

(EDIT: Not passing any judgements, just saying you can have sex pretty early on in the timeline.)

Modifié par yukidama, 28 octobre 2010 - 08:35 .