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[Wrathion]

Have you tried groups dedicated to Isabela?

[Merlex]

Alexandrine Delassixe wrote...

Have you tried groups dedicated to Isabela?

I've tried, but there are almost 4000 groups to go through. Under categories, there is DA Builders, and Dragon Age Origins, but nothing DA2 related. I even googled DA2 Isabela banners. I found a couple on deviant art.

My sig is good enough for now.

[Sealy]

Plus as you add banners they mostly get cut off... I wonder if you could find a small one like my feather!Fenris.

[Merlex]

Fleshdress wrote...

Plus as you add banners they mostly get cut off... I wonder if you could find a small one like my feather!Fenris.

Yeah, i wish they gave us more sig space. I do have a little Izzy banner, it's on the bottom left of my signature.

[SilentK]

Are there differences in the romance between Izzy&MaleHawke and Izzy&FemHawke? From scouting around the forum I get the impression that there are a few different things. Gearing up for a new PT of DA:O then DAII to celebrate that DAIII is on the horizon. Haven't romanced her yet and it would be fun to experience a new relationship.

[CuriousArtemis]

I've only romanced her with FemHawke, and I'm not finished with that playthrough, so not so sure! Though I know a lot of people say she's better suited to FemHawke than DudeHawke.

[berelinde]

I habitually romance her with every Hawke, at least until they sleep together. The only Isabela romance I finished the game with was a male Hawke, though.

Honestly, I don't think it matters which gender you romance her with. It's a lot of fun either way. I don't remember any differences between the male and female romances, but as I said, I've only finished it once.

[AbsoluteApril]

I have a somewhat odd question, this is for a piece of art I am planning. What flower do you think best goes with Isabela? What would you associate with her?

I was thinking maybe nightshade or some type of lily?

[CuriousArtemis]

It's not very poetic, but maybe a Christmas cactus? I have one... Prickly on the outside (hard to get close to at first) but beautiful when it blooms, and it's RARE to get it to bloom. And it's a desert plant, and isn't Rivain a hot place?

[berelinde]

Hibiscus. Big, vibrant, and exotic.

[SilentK]

Thanks for the answers guys =)

[AbsoluteApril]

thanks for the feedback on the flowers! I did decide to use hibiscus, it fit nicely with the style I am trying.

[Enkidu]

Hey guys, I'm kinda behind on the stuffs, but the Isabela banner discussion really plucked my heartstrings so I made some moderately sized ones, because that's what the pirate queen deserves! So if you think that they don’t suck that much then feel free to use ‘em. Also, I'm painfully short on graphics, so if you have any then post them here and I'll be happy to make more Isabela sigs.

Modifié par MrFlipFlops, 21 octobre 2012 - 04:18 .

[Master Shiori]

Thank you for the banners!

[Apophis2412]

Have Hawke and Isabella seperated after DA2?

One year after the battle of Kirkwall she is sailing with Alistair and Varric in the Silent Grove.

[whykikyouwhy]

Apophis2412 wrote...

Have Hawke and Isabella seperated after DA2?

One year after the battle of Kirkwall she is sailing with Alistair and Varric in the Silent Grove.

I think for the sake of the comic books, and the need to have flexibility with each player's handling of Hawke, no romance is mentioned. I would imagine though, that Isabela has every intention of returning to the Champion's side after that particular adventure.

[hoorayforicecream]

I really dislike the comics. They started off kind of bad, and they've just gotten worse. The characters just... don't behave like I expect of them. The most telling difference is the (lack of) humor. In the games, Alistair (even when hardened) is still sarcastic, funny, and joking. Varric and Isabela are tremendously funny when together or apart. The three of them together as a group should be a nonstop sarcastic thrill ride.

Instead, Alistair acts like this. Varric is muted, he barely speaks except to provide exposition to the reader. And Isabela? Isabela's turned from a strong, confident woman who's coda was "Our mistakes make us who we are" and "They don't know me, I know me" into a broken bird who's plagued by guilt and who doesn't believe she can find redemption.

It's a travesty.

[whykikyouwhy]

I don't believe anyone has damned BioWare.

[hoorayforicecream]

Rojahar wrote...

hoorayforicecream wrote...

I really dislike the comics. They started off kind of bad, and they've just gotten worse. The characters just... don't behave like I expect of them.

...

It's a travesty.

But Alistair and Isabela can be those ways in the games. They just weren't in your playthroughs. Its not like they can write the comic for every possible variant playthrough. Besides, they've said people can just think of it as an alternate reality. Certainly not worth damning Bioware over or calling a "travesty".

The only way this would ever happen is if the player purposely ignores and doesn't bring any of the three characters along during gameplay. You cannot change them to act that way in the game, you can only enforce the absence of these qualities by not seeing them at all. And even if you did behave that way, it wouldn't matter because the player cannot fundamentally change who these characters are, they can only affect them through the way they act toward them.

And even beyond that, it's incredibly stupid to make them the headliner characters in a comic. There's very little reason for anyone who isn't at least familiar with them to bother with the comic, which leads me to believe that they are targeting fans of said characters with these comics.

It seems counterintuitive to make a comic that targets fans of a character that doesn't present a consistent personality with the character's previous appearance. I liked these characters because of who they were in the games. The characters present in the comics do not act like any version of the characters in the game, except possibly the "had very little screen time" versions. And that makes no sense, because who in their right mind would be interested in paying for a comic about 3 characters they never played with?

Edit: I'm not damning Bioware. I'm damning the writing, the art, and the production of these shabby comics. I don't hold Bioware responsible for a Dark Horse product. I'm holding Dark Horse (and perhaps Gaider) responsible.

Modifié par hoorayforicecream, 24 octobre 2012 - 01:52 .

[Masha Potato]

That way you can justify any inconsistent characterization

[hoorayforicecream]

Rojahar wrote...

I've done a DAO playthrough where Alistair was an extreme brooding and confrontational person. Completely miserable to be around. I dragged him with me everywhere I went, too, but kept him at max disapproval. Rivalmancing Isabela, I ended up with someone who wasn't "proud of who she was" but rather was seeking to be the kind of person Hawke wanted her to be, in the end. I dragged her with that Hawke everywhere too. It's an ignorant assumption that anyone who's a fan of the characters would have played the way you did, or not have played with them at all and didn't like the characters.

I guess you must have kept Merrill, Varric, and Aveline out of your party as well, or just pretended that any banter didn't happen. 

But maybe you're right. Maybe the comics aren't for me. Maybe they are just written from the idea that the character is just different than I thought. How is that any less of a travesty to me? How am I not allowed to complain about a grievance I find to be legitimate? I was gravely disappointed by these comics. I did not like them, because they did not match my expectations. 

Look around, especially at the hundreds and hundreds of pages of discussion in this thread and Varric's and Alistair's. I think I missed all of Alistair's fans who love his brooding, angsting, and grimdark. I missed the posts which were expressing their joy and affirmation that Isabela's was really just seeking redemption all along, and not the confident, self-assured woman she told Merrill and Aveline she was. I missed the posts in the Varric thread where fan after fan agreed that they loved it when he shut up and only gave exposition.

This is one place where the self-selection bias is actually important. We're the hardest of the hard core fans. We're the ones who care the most about these characters. And we're the ones who are most likely to buy these comics, because they are video game tie-in with three specific featured characters that we like the most.

I can't speak for everyone, but I can speak for myself. And I stand by what I said, but I'll amend it just for you. These comics are a travesty for me. I would not recommend them to anyone who enjoys any of the content in any of the character-specific fan threads.

hoorayforicecream wrote...

Edit: I'm not damning Bioware. I'm damning the writing, the art, and the production of these shabby comics. I don't hold Bioware responsible for a Dark Horse product. I'm holding Dark Horse (and perhaps Gaider) responsible.

To say Bioware is committing a travesty and its bad writing just because it's not the way you liked the characters is no different than those who say Merrill and Anders were terribly written and shouldn't have existed in DA2 because of the differences from their portrayal in DAO.

Somebody needs to work on his reading comprehension. Or at least stop putting words in my mouth. I've got enough of my own, thanks.

[Maria Caliban]

I am not fond of the comic Isabela. I did the rivalry romance with her and don't see the same character.