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[mellifera]

Maria Caliban wrote...

tmp7704 wrote...

Next up, a debate rages after someone gets an idea to praise hedonism.

Actually, it would be praising robbery and murder.

Well!

[Aermas]

chex mix wrote...

Upsettingshorts wrote...

Look, let's just say this and be done with it:

1) The idea of 17th century piracy is awesome and looks like a lot of fun.
2) The realities of 17th century piracy are terrifying and brutal.

yea the british loved displaying the corpses of pirates on their docks

Don't forget disease, lice, ticks, & bilge rats!

[upsettingshorts]

Aermas wrote...
Don't forget disease, lice, ticks, & bilge rats!

Those were problems for all long-distance, blue water navies until the Royal Navy got serious about provisioning - solving the problem for them but no-one else - and the advent of steam power, when sea journies simply stopped taking so long.  The underlying cause of issues like scurvy were not decisively proven until the early 20th century.  Other diseases were not unique to the navy, and were simply possible in any crowded setting before the advent of modern medicine.

[chex mix]

let's not forget the young british captain that got iinto a sword duel with Captain Teach

[upsettingshorts]

There's a lot we could get into but it'd be just as off topic as my post. Posts can go off topic, but let's not drag the entire thread there permanently.

[chex mix]

isabela is blackbeard

[Aermas]

Upsettingshorts wrote...

There's a lot we could get into but it'd be just as off topic as my post. Posts can go off topic, but let's not drag the entire thread there permanently.

Wouldn't it be Isabela-esque to derail this thread?

[TJPags]

Aermas wrote...

Upsettingshorts wrote...

There's a lot we could get into but it'd be just as off topic as my post. Posts can go off topic, but let's not drag the entire thread there permanently.

Wouldn't it be Isabela-esque to derail this thread?

It would.

She might even invite another thread along to spice things up . . . .

[nightcobra]

hoping for a dev to see this



we need more isabela trivia to be explored for fanart and speculations XD



or even something about her crew.

[HarryThePlotter]

David Gaider wrote...

the_one_54321 wrote...
For the folks that see empowered and equal portrayals of females as a positive thing, you really need to let go of the stigma attached to these words that were once seen as insults. Otherwise the stigma, the judgments and the negative connotations of the behavior never go away. And these roles will never be seen in a truly positive way. You only add to the problem by getting insulted by it.

I'll say this once and once only: you are not in a position to tell someone that they should "let go" of the stigma attached to those words. They are charged for a reason, and that's because they've been historically used as derogratory insults. Telling a woman that she shouldn't be offended by the word "sl*t" because it's factual would be like telling a black person that they shouldn't be offended by the n-word or a gay person that they shouldn't be offended by the f-word. After all, aren't those words just descriptions for something that is true?

Words have power. And misogyny has no place on these forums-- and pretending it isn't misogyny reeks of male privilege. As I've said, Isabela is a fictional character who's not about to be insulted by anything you say, but her gender is very real and you (and others on these threads) need to take this into consideration when you start casually tossing around such words.

Characters in the game (and indeed your own PC) can take various attitudes towards Isabela's sexual proclivities-- but that's in the game. In real life and on these forums you will need to moderate what you say out of respect for your fellow posters or we will need to step in and moderate it for you. That's why these discussions keep getting closed, and pretty soon it'll lead to people being disinvited from these forums if they don't know how to conduct themselves in public.

And that's it. Thanks for your attention.

wow.

THis is like saying that calling a rapist a rapist is wrong.

[upsettingshorts]

HarryThePlotter wrote...
wow.

THis is like saying that calling a rapist a rapist is wrong.

No it isn't.

But then, your sig sort of gives away the fact that you wouldn't understand.

Modifié par Upsettingshorts, 30 octobre 2010 - 07:50 .

[Dave of Canada]

One thing I'd like to know. Is the new voice actor somebody that was in Origins/ME?

HarryThePlotter wrote...

wow.

THis is like saying that calling a rapist a rapist is wrong.

... I don't see how.

Modifié par Dave of Canada, 30 octobre 2010 - 07:50 .

[upsettingshorts]

Dave of Canada wrote...

One thing I'd like to know. Is the new voice actor somebody that was in Origins or ME?

I think Mr. Gaider said she is new and hasn't done a Bioware game before.

[Anarya]

I was going to say something not very nice here, but I'll refrain.

[Dave of Canada]

Upsettingshorts wrote...

I think Mr. Gaider said she is new and hasn't done a Bioware game before.

Oh, very interesting. Hope the actor can match up to the role!

[nightcobra]

Upsettingshorts wrote...

Dave of Canada wrote...

One thing I'd like to know. Is the new voice actor somebody that was in Origins or ME?

I think Mr. Gaider said she is new and hasn't done a Bioware game before.

yeah, i'm looking forward to hear her work.

[Maconbar]

HarryThePlotter wrote...

David Gaider wrote...

the_one_54321 wrote...
For the folks that see empowered and equal portrayals of females as a positive thing, you really need to let go of the stigma attached to these words that were once seen as insults. Otherwise the stigma, the judgments and the negative connotations of the behavior never go away. And these roles will never be seen in a truly positive way. You only add to the problem by getting insulted by it.

I'll say this once and once only: you are not in a position to tell someone that they should "let go" of the stigma attached to those words. They are charged for a reason, and that's because they've been historically used as derogratory insults. Telling a woman that she shouldn't be offended by the word "sl*t" because it's factual would be like telling a black person that they shouldn't be offended by the n-word or a gay person that they shouldn't be offended by the f-word. After all, aren't those words just descriptions for something that is true?

Words have power. And misogyny has no place on these forums-- and pretending it isn't misogyny reeks of male privilege. As I've said, Isabela is a fictional character who's not about to be insulted by anything you say, but her gender is very real and you (and others on these threads) need to take this into consideration when you start casually tossing around such words.

Characters in the game (and indeed your own PC) can take various attitudes towards Isabela's sexual proclivities-- but that's in the game. In real life and on these forums you will need to moderate what you say out of respect for your fellow posters or we will need to step in and moderate it for you. That's why these discussions keep getting closed, and pretty soon it'll lead to people being disinvited from these forums if they don't know how to conduct themselves in public.

And that's it. Thanks for your attention.

wow.

THis is like saying that calling a rapist a rapist is wrong.

No. He is saying that we should be civil and not use obviously inflammatory language.

[nightcobra]

how about a little speculation on isabela's crew?

how do you imagine them, as in names/appearance/behaviours



in short, what would be your ideal crew for isabela?

[upsettingshorts]

Well, it depends on if its a galley or a sailing vessel.



I imagine it will be a sailing vessel, if we see it, because galleys typically need large crews and at least in real life relied a great deal on slave labor. This isn't real life, but that's still a lot of pirate rowers to keep happy with coin in their purse.



So, assuming it is a sailing vessel and we get to see it, there are a couple roles I'd like to see:



1) The dude representing the foremast jacks. In laymans terms, these are the regular sailors. I doubt they'll have time to flesh out all the characters, so someone representative of the kind of person who would be a pirate on her ship would be cool. For precise role? It could be anything. Perhaps the coxswain or something.



2) Someone who shares the quarterdeck - where the officers stand - with Isabela. Someone who could give insight into her command style and act as a foil to her character. Perhaps someone more reserved and deliberate, like the ship's sailing master.



3) And then someone who could potentially represent some kind of minor internal conflict such as a corrupt purser who is skimming off the top for his own personal gain.

[chex mix]

nightcobra8928 wrote...

how about a little speculation on isabela's crew?
how do you imagine them, as in names/appearance/behaviours

in short, what would be your ideal crew for isabela?

hopefully they are not all like casavir.  Her crew seems to like her even though she is a woman.  I'm guessing since she tried to recruit a male warden on her ship that her entire/ majority of her crew are men.  She seems to look out for her crew(Why she was in the Pearl? She seemed bored asking people to play cards with her.

[Bruddajakka]

She actually says the reason she's at the Pearl is because of her men, and I kind of got the impression she inherited the crew along with the ship so there was history there before she became Captain.

[chex mix]

Bruddajakka wrote...

She actually says the reason she's at the Pearl is because of her men, and I kind of got the impression she inherited the crew along with the ship so there was history there before she became Captain.

she inherited the ship from her husband

[chex mix]

If romances are supposed to be complicated, how is it going to work with Isabela?

[Pseudo the Mustachioed]

chex mix wrote...

If romances are supposed to be complicated, how is it going to work with Isabela?

Because you can have casual sex and still be a dimensional human being, mostly likely :B