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[tmp7704]

yukidama wrote...

Doesn't the metal armor in DA:O have a skirt anyway?

The massive armour does. mid-thigh or so:



(whole category shares single model just retextured, so it's pretty universal appearance for these)

Modifié par tmp7704, 29 octobre 2010 - 05:02 .

[afhdjs]

You know, some more revealing mage outfits would be nice, like the dark elf costumes on warhammer online. Skimpy outfits were in early DAO concept art, why didn't they go with it in the game?

[ShrinkingFish]

slimgrin wrote...

 

From the article:


"This muscled cuirass is typical of the body armor worn by Greek warriors in the fourth century B.C. Its date is suggested by the fine articulation of musculature, which illustrates how much body armor had in common with contemporary sculpture—it characteristically provides a sensitive rendering of the male physique. Carefully made to fit the human torso, the cuirass reproduces, often with minute details, the nipples and muscles of the chest and abdomen. In the front, the lower rim of the armor curves over the stomach and up again to the hips. Typically, this piece consists of a front and rear plate with slotted attachments along the sides.Body armor of this type was made by the metalworker Pistias, whom Socrates visits in an anecdote by Xenophon (Memorabilia[/i]III, 10, 9). Pistias' customers stress their need for a proper fit and are willing to pay the price for it."

Source:Front of a cuirass [Greek, Apulian] (1992.180.3a) | Heilbrunn Timeline of Art History | The Metropolitan Museum of Art

So...

Women's armor should display muscle tone and nipples?

[ShrinkingFish]

tmp7704 wrote...

yukidama wrote...

Doesn't the metal armor in DA:O have a skirt anyway?

The massive armour does. mid-thigh or so:



(whole category shares single model just retextured, so it's pretty universal appearance for these)

Yeah, I like that armor. But the skirt should go to about the knee in other cases of heavy armor. That is all that's lacking.

[Aermas]

tmp7704 wrote...

yukidama wrote...

Doesn't the metal armor in DA:O have a skirt anyway?

The massive armour does. mid-thigh or so:



(whole category shares single model just retextured, so it's pretty universal appearance for these)

Yes they have little bitty skirts but nothing that's properly battle worthy, mostly decoration.

[ShrinkingFish]

Saibh wrote...

Lord_Valandil wrote...

Well, she does appear in this trailer.
I don't know about you, but I don't see the eye-candy anywhere (regarding Ellen, at least).

I've never played the game, I only have that picture as a reference. Why leave her thighs exposed like that? Are they made of rock? Are they completely immune to damage? Come up with a good reason for her to leave her thighs exposed like that when men don't. Or the heels. The element of surprise? I don't see guys traipsing around as the First Battalion Transvestite Bridgade for a reason.

Yeah. Because none of our standing military is nearly fabulous enough to pull it off.

[upsettingshorts]

ShrinkingFish wrote...
Women's armor should display muscle tone and nipples?

Batman and Robin's Batsuit nipples are vindicated !

[ShrinkingFish]

Upsettingshorts wrote...

ShrinkingFish wrote...
Women's armor should display muscle tone and nipples?

Batman and Robin's Batsuit nipples are vindicated !

Psh. As if they needed vindication.

[mellifera]

Aermas wrote...

yukidama wrote...

Doesn't the metal armor in DA:O have a skirt anyway?

Only a few

Which ones didn't?

[The_11thDoctor]

This is a video game to everyone in this thread. Just thought I'd state the obvious... How is this an issue? More fan-service the better if they can pull it off. It's not like they're forcing any unattractive people here to wear the outfits. I guess most of you live in quiet little towns under a rock the way some people are complaining over nothing here. I didn't even notice what the fuss was unti I re went back and looked at it again. Nudity never bothered me as a kid through now. We all have bodies and they all have fleshy parts. Welcome to late 2010. If a short skirt bothers you, I guess your parenting wasn't good. I dont know a place were short skirts or little clothes dont exist! Have you ever been to Cali, Phoenix, Texas, any where in South America, Europe, Japan?! Sex sells and people like looking sexy. Some people in America cant pull it off, but wear little clothes violating our eyes with their fat, but that's unfortunately life.



What do you expect Bards to wear? Or anyone who uses sex appeal to do their jobs? Everyone has to make money somehow... So where is that chainmail bikini that was brought up?!

[Enshaid]

yukidama wrote...

Aermas wrote...

yukidama wrote...

Doesn't the metal armor in DA:O have a skirt anyway?

Only a few

Which ones didn't?

I don't recall any that didn't.

[slimgrin]

Some are offended by form-fitting armor. I think it can be done for both sexes and still have taste.

[mellifera]

aang001 wrote...

This is a video game to everyone in this thread. Just thought I'd state the obvious... How is this an issue? More fan-service the better if they can pull it off. It's not like they're forcing any unattractive people here to wear the outfits. I guess most of you live in quiet little towns under a rock the way some people are complaining over nothing here. I didn't even notice what the fuss was unti I re went back and looked at it again. Nudity never bothered me as a kid through now. We all have bodies and they all have fleshy parts. Welcome to late 2010. If a short skirt bothers you, I guess your parenting wasn't good. I dont know a place were short skirts or little clothes dont exist! Have you ever been to Cali, Phoenix, Texas, any where in South America, Europe, Japan?! Sex sells and people like looking sexy. Some people in America cant pull it off, but wear little clothes violating our eyes with their fat, but that's unfortunately life.

What do you expect Bards to wear? Or anyone who uses sex appeal to do their jobs? Everyone has to make money somehow... So where is that chainmail bikini that was brought up?!

Wow, I don't even know where to begin with this. I won't even try, but seriously:

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(your head)

[Saibh]

aang001 wrote...

This is a video game to everyone in this thread. Just thought I'd state the obvious... How is this an issue? More fan-service the better if they can pull it off. It's not like they're forcing any unattractive people here to wear the outfits. I guess most of you live in quiet little towns under a rock the way some people are complaining over nothing here. I didn't even notice what the fuss was unti I re went back and looked at it again. Nudity never bothered me as a kid through now. We all have bodies and they all have fleshy parts. Welcome to late 2010. If a short skirt bothers you, I guess your parenting wasn't good. I dont know a place were short skirts or little clothes dont exist! Have you ever been to Cali, Phoenix, Texas, any where in South America, Europe, Japan?! Sex sells and people like looking sexy. Some people in America cant pull it off, but wear little clothes violating our eyes with their fat, but that's unfortunately life.

What do you expect Bards to wear? Or anyone who uses sex appeal to do their jobs? Everyone has to make money somehow... So where is that chainmail bikini that was brought up?!

Chainmail bikini is a phrase people use.

Also. The day your argument becomes valid is the day that female and male sexuality in games is treated exactly the same. Which is difficult to do, considering there's no real basis for male sexuality. Being topless or having rippling biceps isn't enough--that appeals to the straight male demographic, too, since it makes him seem tough and powerful and strong as their avatar. Or else games like Gears of War or movies like 300 wouldn't exist like they are.

[tmp7704]

Aermas wrote...

Yes they have little bitty skirts but nothing that's properly battle worthy, mostly decoration.

Hmm i tried to find pictures of armour with longer skirts but it didn't really result in anything... that seems to be about regular length, similar to the real designs?

[Kileyan]

Freek on a Leesh wrote...

Kileyan wrote...

Aermas wrote...

ShrinkingFish wrote...

Aermas wrote...

A skirt of metal plates could be used. Form-fitting thigh plates could also be used.

Actually a skirt of metal plates would make most sense. Most plate armor used these skirts as opposed to pants even for men as having iron rubbing between your thighs is rather... horrible. In all respects.

A bit pinchy too.

The lack of battle skirts for men is sad in DA: O I've always been a fan of the style. (For realistic reasons)

what are you talking about, if you didn't wear metal armor in DA, you wore a leather skirt. I guess it doesn't count unless it was a metal skirt?

Obviously he means plaid skirts made of cloth, like schoolgirls wear.

Obviously, I was upset Leliana didn't sing a certain Britney Spears song.

[Lord_Valandil]

Saibh wrote...

Lord_Valandil wrote...

Well, she does appear in this trailer.
I don't know about you, but I don't see the eye-candy anywhere (regarding Ellen, at least).

I've never played the game, I only have that picture as a reference. Why leave her thighs exposed like that? Are they made of rock? Are they completely immune to damage? Come up with a good reason for her to leave her thighs exposed like that when men don't. Or the heels. The element of surprise? I don't see guys traipsing around as the First Battalion Transvestite Bridgade for a reason.

I couldn't sleep. Needed to answer.
Yes...the picture is inaccurate, in the game she's fully covered.

Also, from TvTropes:
Chainmail Bikini

Ellen of the Xbox [i]Kingdom Under Fire[b] titles subverts this — despite stripperific promo art, on the battlefield it's all chainmail and a piece of torso armour that actually covers everything.

So there you go.

Modifié par Lord_Valandil, 29 octobre 2010 - 05:13 .

[CubsMania]

haha this a funny arguement. 1 its a game. 2 for all those that have been saying u dont want to see her butt flashing around it wont be a problem unless you are focusing on her butt during battles, which would be very bad tactics and you would be able to watch ur other characters health bars. 3 she is one companion probably out seven to ten maybe more, so dont have to use unless you like her personality 4 games have done a lot worse. 5 i agree with what others have been saying about not wanting thathe outfits to be static..

[Saibh]

Lord_Valandil wrote...

I couldn't sleep. Needed to answer.
Yes...the picture is inaccurate, in the game she's fully covered.

Also, from TvTropes:
Chainmail Bikini

Ellen of the Xbox [i]Kingdom Under Fire[b] titles subverts this — despite stripperific promo art, on the battlefield it's all chainmail and a piece of torso armour that actually covers everything.

So there you go.

Then you shouldn't have shown that particular piece of artwork, then? Why assume we've all played that game? I only had what you showed me to go on. I mean, even the TVTropes article admits the art is Stripperific.

[Lord_Valandil]

Saibh wrote...

Lord_Valandil wrote...

I couldn't sleep. Needed to answer.
Yes...the picture is inaccurate, in the game she's fully covered.

Also, from TvTropes:
Chainmail Bikini

Ellen of the Xbox [i]Kingdom Under Fire[b] titles subverts this — despite stripperific promo art, on the battlefield it's all chainmail and a piece of torso armour that actually covers everything.

So there you go.

Then you shouldn't have shown that particular piece of artwork, then? Why assume we've all played that game? I only had what you showed me to go on. I mean, even the TVTropes article admits the art is Stripperific.

Wasn't my intention to assume everyone played the game. Sorry
Also, I really didn't see the art as "stripperific". That's why I showed it.

Modifié par Lord_Valandil, 29 octobre 2010 - 05:18 .

[ShrinkingFish]

Saibh wrote...

Lord_Valandil wrote...

I couldn't sleep. Needed to answer.
Yes...the picture is inaccurate, in the game she's fully covered.

Also, from TvTropes:
Chainmail Bikini

Ellen of the Xbox [i]Kingdom Under Fire[b] titles subverts this — despite stripperific promo art, on the battlefield it's all chainmail and a piece of torso armour that actually covers everything.

So there you go.

Then you shouldn't have shown that particular piece of artwork, then? Why assume we've all played that game? I only had what you showed me to go on. I mean, even the TVTropes article admits the art is Stripperific.

Not sure how this relates to Isabela's outfit anymore.

Plus... I just want to say, I hate that TVtropes websight. They have some good stuff but a lot of their articles are horribly scewed and completely misrepresent what they are refering to.

It's like Wikipedia on a really bad day.

Modifié par ShrinkingFish, 29 octobre 2010 - 05:19 .

[Dave of Canada]

ShrinkingFish wrote...

Plus... I just want to say, I hate that TVtropes websight. They have some good stuff but a lot of their articles are horribly scewed and completely misrepresent what they are refering to.

I hate it because once I go on it, I know I won't be off for a couple of hours. I also tend to have over 50 tabs open and each of them will open another 5-6 tabs.

[Leonia]

Gosh, way to go Lord Valandil, you've confused us all! I like seeing armour art from other games, btw, it's neat to compare the different styles that are used, even if some are more pornographic than others.

Have always found Origins to be fairly realistic and it seems the tradition will continue with DA2. Granted, rogues wearing no pants (a la Isabela) doesn't seem too unusual to me, a rogue shouldn't be getting hit and when you listen to Isabela describe her fighting-style in Origins.. that's exactly how she approaches things, with speed and agility instead of strength. If someone can land a blow on her, she's done something wrong. It makes sense for rogues to wear less than warriors, they need to be more mobile. Anyway, I'm still not sure why people are getting that upset over the lack of pants, Morrigan barely had a top on (yes, she was a mage, but like rogues.. mages shouldn't be getting hit in combat either).

Overall, it's still a fantasy game and we will have to suspend disbelief a little bit with the armour, though, not so much as we would have to do with other games in a similar genre.

Modifié par leonia42, 29 octobre 2010 - 05:57 .

[AtreiyaN7]

Upsettingshorts wrote...

Aermas wrote...

Varric wearing nothing but a golden thong codpiece & two leather straps crisscrossing his hairy chest

Varric is Zardoz! 

*snip*

ROFL! I have, for better or worse, actually watched Zardoz a while ago. *washes eyes out with bleach after seeing Sean Connery's unfortunate costume again*

[upsettingshorts]

AtreiyaN7 wrote...
ROFL! I have, for better or worse, actually watched Zardoz a while ago. *washes eyes out with bleach after seeing Sean Connery's unfortunate costume again*

Oh man, this is so OT to continue this but I have to know:  Is it as trippy as I have heard?