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[Mr. Man]

I let him kill Sidonis

[Locutus_of_BORG]

I let Saleon take the first shot in ME1. It is totally consistent for me to let Sidonis live in ME2.

Besides, there are worse things than death. Sidonis isn't even able to get atonement doing jail time after you let him go, so his continued state of self-torment seems more than fitting a punishment to death.

Modifié par Locutus_of_BORG, 31 octobre 2010 - 10:28 .

[Inquisitor Recon]

I didn't even ask Sidonis why he did it, why would I talk Garrus out of it? My Shepard has killed people for much less anyway.

[Kasces]

At first I was like, "yeah let's go kill him if that's what you want."



but after some more playthroughs if you just talk to Sidonis, you notice even Garrus hesitates as Sidonis explains. He's not killing someone out of "he deserves it" revenge like maybe a Renegade Shepard would but out of self pity that he couldn't save his squad. I'm sorry but, to me, once I saw him hesitate I knew he wasn't sure if he really wanted to kill this man.



So since he's not even killing him for the renegade reasoning he led me to believe, I'll let Sidonis live by the time I import to ME3. I showed Garrus ruthlessness when I let him kill the nefarious doctor in ME1, now I'm showing him the opposite. Hopefully he can balance his place in the galaxy in ME3.

[frylock23]

I always do my best to talk Garrus down, but I always let him take the shot. I don't even want to know Sidonis' story because I can't get the story from Garrus' team and Garrus' account is going to be about as biased as Sidonis'. My Shep doesn't want Garrus to kill Sidonis out of revenge because I like to think my Sheps know that won't solve anything or really make Garrus feel better about losing his team. However, just like some kids will still touch the boiling-hot pot just to see for themselves if its really as bad as their parents keep saying, Garrus strikes me as the sort that kind of needs the experience in order to really learn the lesson. So, once it becomes clear that Garrus is determined no matter what Shep says, the call becomes his and his alone. Hopefully, the experience will help Garrus grow rather than destroying him.

[TheGreyGhost119]

People would probably think I'm crazy if they saw my playthrough. In ME1 I agreed with Garrus that C-Sec should have shot down Dr. Saleon, but when we finally got to him I told Garrus to take him in alive because we had the option to.



In ME2, I ask Garrus at every turn if killing Sidonis is what he really wants, and every time he says that he wants Sidonis to die. Garrus is a grown ass man, so he can make his own decisions. On top of that, there is no reason to let Sidonis live/take him in alive because there is no law enforcement agency to turn him into.



In the end, I let Garrus take his shot.

[Ryzaki]

Me? I don't let Garrus take the shot. Not because Shepard knows better than him but because Garrus hesitates when Sidonis speaks. I don't want some slime like Sidonis screwing with Garrus' head. Besides the fact that he admits to starting to see things in shades of gray is enough reason for even my renegades to persuade him to spare Sidonis.

Edit: LOL @ the poster above we're direct opposites. I always shoot that crazy Dr.

Modifié par Ryzaki, 01 novembre 2010 - 05:03 .

[sarahN7]

I let Garrus do what he needed to do. If it makes him at peace with himself and makes him more focused for the mission ahead, more power to him.Same goes for all my squadmates, even if I don't agree, I let them do what they needed, Mordin included. Though I didn't agree 100% with the situation regarding the Krogans, I let Mordin reason out what was right and didn't try to persuade him either way. It's his call.

[PauseforEffect]

The look in Garrus' eyes when Shepard and he were catching up was a bit unsettling. While Garrus clearly needed to reconcile this, it was hard not to worry that killing Sidonis would harm Garrus more. Knowing what it feels like to want retribution from personal experience, it becomes too easy to lose sight of oneself and do things that would punish the wronged person more than the one who deserved it. The Shepard I played argued with Garrus through the whole mission, aptly noting that what he was doing was not the friend she knew. I suppose it was concern that his mindset would become more cruel, colder and less likely to weigh every decision carefully.

I don't think it's inconsistent for Paragons to protest Sidonis' death while shooting mercs. To use Mordin's excuse, different circumstances, self-defense. Nameless individuals Shepard and Garrus don't know personally are hardly going to be affected by their deaths. Hard to care about faceless enemies but Sidonis was once a teammate and friend of Garrus'. At the very least, I'd be interested in hearing the other side of the argument. For all I knew, maybe Sidonis had a family being held hostage in exchange for his cooperation.

[CheeseEnchilada]

I always talk Garrus down. In my eyes, shooting someone down after they've wronged you isn't right--you're sinking to their level. To take true revenge, you have to be able to look the person in the eye, and show them the mercy that they never gave you. Healing and overcoming what they've done is IMO a better option, and I feel it gives Garrus more peace.

[Bourne Endeavor]

In my file, Sidonis did not say more than two sentences before a bullet passed through his brain. Garrus was neither reluctant or hesitate in this scenario at any point thereafter. My Shepard has no room for betrayal and unless you hear Sidonis out, you are none the wiser. The rational behind this for Shepard is simply, business and the allowance of a friend to settle his own scores in the matter he deems fit.

[Xilizhra]

I see no need to kill him. I tend to play to keep as many people alive as I can, and here's an opportunity now.

[anmiro]

Shandepared wrote...

Garrus is a grown man, he can make his own decisions.

Grown men make mistakes and friends look out for each other.

[Ultai]

Shandepared wrote...

Zulu_DFA wrote...

The Paragon is always inconsistent, so sparing Sidonis is quite consistent with the general paragon inconsistency. Dialectics.

This example is particularly bad though. "I'm going to kill dozens of mercs to teach Garrus that it is not okay to kill people."

A simple fix would be to remove the combat from this loyalty mission and putting another means of tracking down Harkin in it's place.

[DPSSOC]

At first I was all for letting Garrus kill Sidonis.  Admittedly he's killing him for revenge which isn't exactly a great reason but it's understandable.  However as his friend I felt it was my responsibility to make sure this was something he really wanted to do; just as I would for a friend who wanted to get a tattoo or an odd piercing (anywhere not the ear).  So I kept checking with him, asking him if this was really what he wanted to do.  Now the clincher for me was when you ask him in the car and he admits he hasn't really thought this through, he's just reacting and is willing to deal with the consequences.  Now I pride myself on never letting a friend rush into something without thinking it through and that admission means I am required to force him to take the time and think.

An earlier comment that got me thinking that I might want to interfere is when he mentions how I taught him that killing was the best option.  This statement put a certain level of responsibility for Garrus' actions on me, because while I did teach him that killing criminals is the best way to deal with them I failed to teach him why.  I killed Saleon and Ballak and I firmly believe that was the right thing to do, but the reason I killed them, the reason they had to die, wasn't what they'd done but what they'd continue to do.  Death is not a punishment it's a protection, it keeps people like Saleon and Ballak from hurting anyone else, and this got me thinking, "Who's Sidonis going to hurt now?"  He's not a threat to anyone and while he deserves to be brought to justice what Garrus is doing is simply murder.

Now I'm probably over analyzing the situation but that's what happens when I've got too much time on my hands.

[atheelogos]

If you talk to Sidonis you'll find out he wants to die. He hates himself for caving in to their threats. Sidonis wants to die and Garrus wants to kill him. Best to let Garrus perform a mercy killing. At the end of the day its what they both want.