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[Dr. Tran]

DukeOfNukes wrote...

Wow...it's already up on Ebay. Guess somebody couldn't wait to actually GET the product in.

I'd really like to know if there's a way they could work with eBay to figure out who these sellers are, and prohibit them from future purchases. There's no problem with selling them on ebay, it's the people that buy them in order to sell that are a nuisance.

*looks at ebay*

Wow... Just... Wow...

I have no problem with grabbing some holding onto them for a while and then selling, but selling at a markup before you even have the product.  That is low.  They're not even sold out yet! <_<

[Dan Dark]

That's just...sad. And there's -two- of them...both from the same person. And while it's obviously questionable morally, I've gotta wonder if it's even legal - after all, we know for a fact there's simply no way they actually have them in their possession yet. Which means they're trying to sell something they don't have.

[TheKingBoar]

DukeOfNukes wrote...

TheKingBoar wrote...

You do come off like a bit of a jerk saying those that deserved them, especially when you were saying earlier how you felt this was a decision best left up to you...

Yup, and I stand by what I said. I really don't care much how I come across to you...as this topic is, and likely will be, the only time I ever see your posts. So yes, I do hope that other forum regulars who wanted these, got them. The rest, I couldn't care less about.

I only post in this sub form, so its not suprising. Some of us also have good reasons for not posting all that frequently, but that doesn't mean we're not dedicated members/fans. But when you're talking about others being on a moral high horse and then you say things like that... its hypocrtical. I'm not saying you're not entitled to your opinion, but its hypocritical to say others are being high and mighty.

[FsDxRAGE]

Can that person even do that?

[Dr. Tran]

Dan Dark wrote...

That's just...sad. And there's -two- of them...both from the same person. And while it's obviously questionable morally, I've gotta wonder if it's even legal - after all, we know for a fact there's simply no way they actually have them in their possession yet. Which means they're trying to sell something they don't have.

"legal" in this case is such a disasterous mess it's not funny.  It's really more a case of ebay terms of service.

[Beocat]

I believe you can report ebay sellers if you can prove they are misrepresenting the current location of the item.

[TheKingBoar]

FsDxRAGE wrote...

Can that person even do that?

Technically, it is a ebay policy violation. They're saying the item is in Chicago, when it clearly isn't. There's also no indication that they don't actually have them, which I think you need to say when you're offering an item for pre order. If it bugs you, report it as a listing violation. It'll get more attention the more of us report it.

[Bioevil087]

DukeOfNukes wrote...

Wow...it's already up on Ebay. Guess somebody couldn't wait to actually GET the product in.

I'd really like to know if there's a way they could work with eBay to figure out who these sellers are, and prohibit them from future purchases. There's no problem with selling them on ebay, it's the people that buy them in order to sell that are a nuisance.

Jesus! What Bioware need to do is make it one per customer that way they have the choose between money or the lithos.

[Dr. Tran]

TheKingBoar wrote...

FsDxRAGE wrote...

Can that person even do that?

Technically, it is a ebay policy violation. They're saying the item is in Chicago, when it clearly isn't. There's also no indication that they don't actually have them, which I think you need to say when you're offering an item for pre order. If it bugs you, report it as a listing violation. It'll get more attention the more of us report it.

Tempted to register with ebay just to do this...

Also: aparently $250 is the magic number in answer to my prior Normandy question.  I'll have to debate with myself on if that's worth it to me...

[FsDxRAGE]

Dr. Tran wrote...

TheKingBoar wrote...

FsDxRAGE wrote...

Can that person even do that?

Technically, it is a ebay policy violation. They're saying the item is in Chicago, when it clearly isn't. There's also no indication that they don't actually have them, which I think you need to say when you're offering an item for pre order. If it bugs you, report it as a listing violation. It'll get more attention the more of us report it.

Tempted to register with ebay just to do this...

Also: aparently $250 is the magic number in answer to my prior Normandy question.  I'll have to debate with myself on if that's worth it to me...

"It's totally worth it."

[Dan Dark]

Actually, they're just saying it will -ship- from Chicago... which would not be inaccurate, then, since it'd have to first get to that person, before they could ship it elsewhere.

http://pages.ebay.co...m-location.html

They actually are not in violation of that policy. Unfortunately.

http://pages.ebay.co...ng-no-item.html

This one, on the other hand, looks more likely, since it could potentially be argued that's a placeholder listing, because the user does not have the item to sell yet.

Edit: Or.. maybe not... They have rules for presales of items, which is probably more relevant to this... I can't find any notable violations of it. It does clearly state they'll recieve them in two weeks, then ship them out to the buyer. Only potential snag there is they don't have any guarantee they'll have the lithos by then. >>

Modifié par Dan Dark, 30 octobre 2010 - 12:12 .

[TheKingBoar]

Dan Dark wrote...

Actually, they're just saying it will -ship- from Chicago... which would not be inaccurate, then, since it'd have to first get to that person, before they could ship it elsewhere.

http://pages.ebay.co...m-location.html

They actually are not in violation of that policy. Unfortunately.

http://pages.ebay.co...ng-no-item.html

This one, on the other hand, looks more likely, since it could potentially be argued that's a placeholder listing, because the user does not have the item to sell yet.

Hey, whatever works to get it taken down. i really don't mind people selling them on ebay, but it'd be nice to see a little decency, like waiting to get the item or at least a shipping confirmation. The (unlucky) buyer won't even know the condition since the aution ends well before shipping. Although I guess that's a great way to get the lithos and then get the buyer in trouble for misrepresenting the items as undamaged, and we all know how well that goes.

*edit* saw Dan's update. Still a good chance the buyer could complain about the items being damaged if they are, as the seller is representing it as undamaged. Pretty hilarious negative feedback though...

Modifié par TheKingBoar, 30 octobre 2010 - 12:17 .

[SIim Charles]

This listing is just pathetic on so many levels. It's too bad the BS can't trace this guy and cancel his order(s).

Modifié par SIim Charles, 30 octobre 2010 - 01:20 .

[iamsaige]

ok that ebay listing is just...

I'm usually ok with folks selling their lithos on ebay if they got it and in the end didn't like it are selling it for any other reason. Even if I'm a bit sad at folks buying them just to sell on ebay, what can ya do, it's the world we live in, but this.. it's just so wrong. 

[Tocquevillain]

There's nothing wrong with what he's doing according to eBay rules, so I wouldn't bother wasting the guy's time by reporting him. You're just inconveniencing someone who, at the end of it all, was quicker to the draw than someone else. Besides there will be plenty of time to buy the other 300 prints in two weeks.

EDIT: Note the person selling Pragia and Purgatory, starting bid at 40. Must have anticipated a quick sell out and was disappointed. With free shipping to the US, and a starting bid of 40 for a 40 dollar item, he'll be losing quite a bundle after fees.

Modifié par Tocquevillain, 30 octobre 2010 - 01:56 .

[ilikeicehockey]

uh it won't even be shipped out until mid-november. How is this guy going to make the 6 day deadline? Did he not read the huge note in the description stating a mid-november delivery date?

[Tocquevillain]

It costs, what, 130-135 to order the set direct from Bioware to a US address? 200 less initiail cost (65) less free shipping (~15?), less eBay and Paypal fees (~20), he woudn't be making much profit if someone did plunk down 200.

[Dan Dark]

Unfortunately, that's not an issue. The auction only ends in six days; his (or her?) description states they (the seller) will probably receive them in about two weeks, at which point they will throw them right back in the mail en-route to whoever foolishly enough decided to buy them. No violations of eBay policies as far as I can tell.

[iamsaige]

I just read Chris's announcement thread and boy some folks aren't happy. I kinda feel bad for some fans that missed out when you see folks that instant list on ebay.

[FsDxRAGE]

iamsaige wrote...

I just read Chris's announcement thread and boy some folks aren't happy. I kinda feel bad for some fans that missed out when you see folks that instant list on ebay.

I'd rage too.
I almost missed out due to the problems but got lucky I suppose.
I can't imagine what those people are going through

[Crjans]

Beocat wrote...

Dr. Tran wrote...

[Just to all those upset at me for what I've said, do me one favor.  Ask yourself this: If you accidentally double ordered and ended up with 2 sets instead of 1, would you really cancel the second one without even thinking about the fact that you could make a little profit from it?  No need to bother answering me because I'll only believe two answers: "No I wouldn't cancel it without thinking about that." and "Yes I would cancel it because I can't afford the extra money."

I actually know someone who gave away a Citadel instead of selling it.  I know this person could have made quite a profit.  There are people out there who believe that it is better to give than to recieve.  Perhaps you are not one of them, but please do not group the rest of us with you.

I have personally sold off duplicate lithos for my cost +shipping to other fans on these forums including Normandy which I could have easily made a large profit on.  I did not think about nor ask for anything above my costs.  Believe it or not.  Some fans stick together.

[Crjans]

DukeOfNukes wrote...

Wow...it's already up on Ebay. Guess somebody couldn't wait to actually GET the product in.

I'd really like to know if there's a way they could work with eBay to figure out who these sellers are, and prohibit them from future purchases. There's no problem with selling them on ebay, it's the people that buy them in order to sell that are a nuisance.

ebay doesn't have a problem with it and likely wouldn't assist bioware/treehouse.  That being said reporting the sale is an option as there are very strict rules about listing pre-sale items if the person can't gurantee they will have the item on hand to ship within x amount of days the sale violates ebay policy

[The_Numerator]

So, what's with all the numbers in the signature there?

And anyone know how the whole lithograph sale went? Did they sell all five hundred, or what? Wasn't it something like 100 in the morning, and 300 in the afternoon? I know the morning batch went in about 30 minutes. How long did the afternoon batch take?

Modifié par The_Numerator, 30 octobre 2010 - 04:47 .

[iamsaige]

The numbers in Crjans' signature is the numbered litho he has.



As to your second question; there was only 100 for the first release then another 100 in the second which sold out in 14 mins. There are 300 or each still available as singles when they're released mid November.

[Dsurian]

EVIL NINJAS!

The_Numerator wrote...

So, what's with all the numbers in the signature there?

And anyone know how the whole lithograph sale went? Did they sell all five hundred, or what? Wasn't it something like 100 in the morning, and 300 in the afternoon? I know the morning batch went in about 30 minutes. How long did the afternoon batch take?

The number shows what copies of each Litho he has...for instance, Collectors - he has numbers 37 and 293 out of a printing of 300 Litho's.  All limited edition Lithos are signed a numbered by the artist, and all consumers of them are very familiar of the scrawls in the bottom right corner.

Each Litho this run had 500 printed - 200 of each had been grouped together into 3-packs to accomidate the two realeases - a morning release of 100 3-packs, and an afternoon of 100 3-packs.  The 300 of each Litho left over will be sold on a singular basis around mid-November.  As far as how long it took to sell; //Edit: Mr. Preistly said less than 15 minutes for the second release to hit OOS...for them to make $12k...not bad.

Modifié par Dsurian, 30 octobre 2010 - 09:53 .