Don't feed the instigator. Seems that this mans main goal was just to come to this thread and "ruffle some feathers" so to speak. Remember, nobody wins when it comes to arguing over the internet.
Let him go cruising around with Boba Fett on some other forum.
Thane, Tali, Grunt Lithograph Release General Chat
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#577
Posté 31 octobre 2010 - 01:33
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Pretty standard world outlook. Easy way to make money, when you have no profession or skill, you're not able to add value to anything. Buy low sell high at expense of someone else. A bit like banking and finance. Fundamentally why I do engineering, understand the impracticality of being a charity. But the worth of actually contributing so that all parties gain. Unfortunately not everyone embraces this morality. This will always happen, the best you can hope for is not that he's particularly sorry but that he know's it's wrong but chooses not to care.
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Posté 31 octobre 2010 - 01:51
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Rivercurse wrote...
The majority of litho fans who would consider buying ebay listings read these topics and this board.
You're hardly marketing yourself well to them. Come November ebay will be awash with these things, and I don't think anyone from the BSN will choose to deal with you ahead of someone else.
I hope you have room on your wall for all 9 lithos.
good thing I've got three ebay account too! :happy:
#579
Posté 31 octobre 2010 - 02:36
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No you don't, ebay don't allow that. I'd be careful what you say because there are certain people here who would certainly do some IP checking and reporting to the site if necesary.
#580
Posté 31 octobre 2010 - 03:01
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The use of the BioWare Store's images and pre-sale marketing materials to sell those lithos on Ebay might be considered a violation of the Store's terms and conditions. Reading under "site contents," it's quite explicit that all images and written materials (the entire site content, in fact), is copyright.
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Posté 31 octobre 2010 - 03:36
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Ok guys it's been fun bantering. I'll drop by around Thanksgiving for dinner, and don't forget to send me my Christmas cards. Peace lol 
#583
Posté 31 octobre 2010 - 05:44
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That was a pretty obvious trolling. I don't really care about all these bad people in the world, so as long as I get my lithos I'm good. I figure I can't stop people from existing without becoming some world dictator. Just because it's capitalist doesn't mean it's good.
Oh, and the fact that the lithos were so widely announced encourages more of these people to come and flip them, so effectively there are less lithos for more fans.
Oh, and the fact that the lithos were so widely announced encourages more of these people to come and flip them, so effectively there are less lithos for more fans.
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#584
Posté 31 octobre 2010 - 12:38
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Just to say, I'm glad I got the pack of three, probably gonna put Thane and Grunt up near my desk, and Tali, well all I bought that for was so that I could Burn it, only 499 of them now. Heh Heh.
LOL just kidding, so calm down talimancers!
LOL just kidding, so calm down talimancers!
#585
Posté 31 octobre 2010 - 12:42
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I don't think there is any surefire way to eliminate people like this Troll McTroll here, but it would help if the Biowarestore stopped thier counterproductive campaign in it's tracks. Every big litho release, at least a few regular collectors come up short for one reason or another, so a flood of complaints and requests come in for this to change or that to change to help the situation.
Case in point being this whole new multi stage release system in use now. The point of it being to create a more ideal window for anyone especially the regulars, no matter where they live around the world or what thier schedules are, to have a better chance to pick up the lithos.
In principle it's a solid idea, but any gains it made were totally wiped out by making a big old grand announcement and advertising them. There are only 500 of these things, they surely have no need to be advertised like they were.
I don't see where Bioware or Biowarestore gains anything if they sell out in 13 minutes as compared to 5 or 6 hours if they shut up about it. It's still a sell out and the regular fans have a much better shot at picking them up, which was kind of the point in the first place. Plus, little or no advertising keeps away a lot of these people that just show up to make a buck off of them.
Case in point being this whole new multi stage release system in use now. The point of it being to create a more ideal window for anyone especially the regulars, no matter where they live around the world or what thier schedules are, to have a better chance to pick up the lithos.
In principle it's a solid idea, but any gains it made were totally wiped out by making a big old grand announcement and advertising them. There are only 500 of these things, they surely have no need to be advertised like they were.
I don't see where Bioware or Biowarestore gains anything if they sell out in 13 minutes as compared to 5 or 6 hours if they shut up about it. It's still a sell out and the regular fans have a much better shot at picking them up, which was kind of the point in the first place. Plus, little or no advertising keeps away a lot of these people that just show up to make a buck off of them.
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Posté 31 octobre 2010 - 01:11
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ShepardOsiris wrote...
I don't think there is any surefire way to eliminate people like this Troll McTroll here, but it would help if the Biowarestore stopped thier counterproductive campaign in it's tracks. Every big litho release, at least a few regular collectors come up short for one reason or another, so a flood of complaints and requests come in for this to change or that to change to help the situation.
Case in point being this whole new multi stage release system in use now. The point of it being to create a more ideal window for anyone especially the regulars, no matter where they live around the world or what thier schedules are, to have a better chance to pick up the lithos.
In principle it's a solid idea, but any gains it made were totally wiped out by making a big old grand announcement and advertising them. There are only 500 of these things, they surely have no need to be advertised like they were.
I don't see where Bioware or Biowarestore gains anything if they sell out in 13 minutes as compared to 5 or 6 hours if they shut up about it. It's still a sell out and the regular fans have a much better shot at picking them up, which was kind of the point in the first place. Plus, little or no advertising keeps away a lot of these people that just show up to make a buck off of them.
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#587
Posté 31 octobre 2010 - 02:20
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Is it possible to have a bigger jpg of the lithos? I would like to use some of them as wallpapers while I wait for the shipping!
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#588
Posté 31 octobre 2010 - 03:38
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How do you know that the reason they sold out was because they advertised it on Facebook, because that was the only other advertising I knew of other than the forum announcements. I think these were just more popular with the fans.
#589
Posté 31 octobre 2010 - 03:42
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I thankfully got my three pack, but it certainly seemed more stressful this time than the rest!
#590
Posté 31 octobre 2010 - 04:22
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meh, even when BioWare sent me extra sets of lithos for free by mistake (happened twice now), I didn't even think about selling them. I would only consider trading them for lithos I don't have (omega & saren) or any future lithos I may miss, but I'd never stomp so low as to sell them for profit.
#591
Posté 31 octobre 2010 - 05:41
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I think what the BS should do is monitor the lithos listed on ebay and restrict those who resell within a certain time period after release to a max of one of each litho in the first week for new forthcoming releases. That way you aren't blocking those who legitimately only bought one, just didn't care for it, and sold it, but at the same time cutting into resellers who had no interest except their wallets in mind.
Or just flat-out restrict first-week purchases to one and give buyers the option to ask the BS to hold shipment if they intend to buy more after the first week to save shipping costs. I know I am a notorious multiple-litho buyer, but with the new policy of giving multiple release times far in advance, I really have no reason to buy multiples anymore.
Or just flat-out restrict first-week purchases to one and give buyers the option to ask the BS to hold shipment if they intend to buy more after the first week to save shipping costs. I know I am a notorious multiple-litho buyer, but with the new policy of giving multiple release times far in advance, I really have no reason to buy multiples anymore.
#592
Posté 31 octobre 2010 - 05:58
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I honestly don't think it's the store's place to police what people do with their private property.
#593
Posté 31 octobre 2010 - 06:02
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SIim Charles wrote...
I think what the BS should do is monitor the lithos listed on ebay and restrict those who resell within a certain time period after release to a max of one of each litho in the first week for new forthcoming releases
The problem is that other than guys like WangChungofett there, they have no way of telling which Ebayer, is which buyer. Most are going to use different names, no address to view, etc.,
#594
Posté 31 octobre 2010 - 06:07
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Tocquevillain wrote...
I honestly don't think it's the store's place to police what people do with their private property.
Hmm.. It's sad to bring this up but even the Gamestops place limits on how many of a single collector's edition you can preorder. Part of it is also trying to make sure people do have access to it. If these were not collector's items and already limited, there would be no reason to put a cap on them in the first place.
@Slim ~ At first I thought your account had been hacked until I read that last line.... I'm still surprised but I agree with you there. Limit of one is fairest to all.
#595
Posté 31 octobre 2010 - 06:24
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You'll just have to look at the litho #'s to determine who's who....I admit, it's far from perfect.
Though, I think just going with what I said in the 2nd paragraph is much more fair and easier to do. If you want more than one for whatever reason, everyone should get a chance to grab one before you can. Obviously, there are ways around everything, but I think this would go a long way. Any reseller worth his gravy can have a separate payment method and delivery address to use, but will they have 5 or 6? I doubt it. And right now, all you need is one alternate to buy 6 sets.
Though, I think just going with what I said in the 2nd paragraph is much more fair and easier to do. If you want more than one for whatever reason, everyone should get a chance to grab one before you can. Obviously, there are ways around everything, but I think this would go a long way. Any reseller worth his gravy can have a separate payment method and delivery address to use, but will they have 5 or 6? I doubt it. And right now, all you need is one alternate to buy 6 sets.
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Posté 31 octobre 2010 - 06:27
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#597
Posté 31 octobre 2010 - 06:48
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stardazzled wrote...
Well, as with most things, several of us (forum regulars) mentioned the 1-cap numerous times in the past. It actually was up in (nearly) every discussion about limitation and in (nearly) every discussion that followed a release which left many potential customers. Only as a side note and a reminder that this topic isn't up for the first time (more like the 6th or 7th).
It's almost like Groundhog Day with all of the deja vu.
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Posté 31 octobre 2010 - 06:59
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Posté 31 octobre 2010 - 07:04
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Beocat wrote...
Tocquevillain wrote...
I honestly don't think it's the store's place to police what people do with their private property.
Hmm.. It's sad to bring this up but even the Gamestops place limits on how many of a single collector's edition you can preorder. Part of it is also trying to make sure people do have access to it. If these were not collector's items and already limited, there would be no reason to put a cap on them in the first place.
@Slim ~ At first I thought your account had been hacked until I read that last line.... I'm still surprised but I agree with you there. Limit of one is fairest to all.
Yes, that's fine, but monitoring eBay to ensure no one who bought more than 1 is scalping them is not the situation you're presenting with Gamestop.
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Posté 31 octobre 2010 - 07:13
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If this pre-sale multiple release method is what their going to stick with then a 1 purchase limit for the pre-sale would be fine. Then when they sell the rest like the 300 of each going in Nov. increase the limit to 3-5 each. Someone who wants more then one could wait or secure one then combine any others from the later release to their first order.
Its just pointless to release 100 at a time then allow a 3 limit policy. It makes a ridiculously limited release even more limited. Which makes your customers unhappy.
As for resellers, once the item is in their hands they have the right to do whatever they want with it. They own it. In no way can Biowarestore do anything about it at that point nor do they have the right to. Some of you guys are letting yourselves dip into extremism over this.
Its just pointless to release 100 at a time then allow a 3 limit policy. It makes a ridiculously limited release even more limited. Which makes your customers unhappy.
As for resellers, once the item is in their hands they have the right to do whatever they want with it. They own it. In no way can Biowarestore do anything about it at that point nor do they have the right to. Some of you guys are letting yourselves dip into extremism over this.
