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[Captain_Obvious_au]

In ME1, shotguns were really useful, especially on missions such as Feros. When given Sledgehammer ammo, they were fantastic for engaging close-in enemies and preventing them getting into melee range.

In ME2 though, I find them completely useless. Well, except for the Geth Plasma Shotgun (GPS). The GPS is great at medium-range engagements and was my primary weapon until I chose Assault Rifle training (Vanguard). When I went onto the derelict Reaper in ME2 however, I found once again, as I had with my Soldier playthrough, that Shotguns fire spitballs.

I'd switched over to the Eviscerator (sp?) and was madly firing at Husks, who were essentially ignoring my fire, leaving my scratching my head. I then switched to the Mattock and wiped them out. On another mission I switched to the Scimitar which seemed to be an improvement, but still incredibly underpowered and with no knock-back effect.

Am I doing something wrong here, or did Shotguns in ME2 just suddenly begin sucking?

[Daforth]

The you do something wrong. In ME2 shotguns are good and usefull, if you play right. Unlike in ME1 in ME2 to use a shotgun most effectively you have to be at point-blank range, and try to aim for the head. So, you need to play around this goal: get to point-blank range and shoot the head, then bang huge dmg is delivered. At mid to long range ME2 shotguns are not effective, in ME1 at mid range shotguns were quite effective.

So, in short, no, ME2 shotguns are still useful and good weapons (especially in a vanguard's hand), but require different playstyle. You can find some awesome shotty-engineer, shotty-adept and other good videos around this forum, search a bit and you will get a picture.

Modifié par Daforth, 29 octobre 2010 - 02:41 .

[MegaRekyyli]

Yeah, shotguns in ME2 just suck. Too bad.

[Althorne]

I play as a vanguard using the eviscerator. With heavy inferno ammo and charge, they work really well. On hardcore, a point blank shot can almost take down someone's armour, and will kill in one hit when the armour is gone. Also, one shot, one melee makes it really useful, in my opinion.

[kalle90]

I agree



My 1st character is a Vanguard but after a while I only used pistols and submachineguns. In ME1 I used the shotgun at closer range but now I don't see a point. Now it has little ammo, limited effectiveness and it also feels ineffective.

[sinosleep]

LMFAO, yeah shotguns are useless.

youtube/mass effect 2/shotguns/ end thread.

http://www.youtube.c...07?feature=mhsn

Damn near 120k views, mostly of shotguns cakewalking the game. Practically every shotgun is featured, across several different classes, resulting in quick kills and managing to practically never run out of ammo. I'm also hardly the only person that's done so, youtube Kronner, RamsenC, SabreSanDiego Gun0fDis (goes by Huckebein here) and many others.

Modifié par sinosleep, 29 octobre 2010 - 03:13 .

[marshalleck]

Yeah, this is ridiculous. Almost as ridiculous as people saying ME2 vanguards suck.

Learn to play. Shotguns are far from bad in ME2--if you think they suck, it's because you're doing it wrong. 

Modifié par marshalleck, 29 octobre 2010 - 03:19 .

[Captain_Obvious_au]

Well I'd watch that, but still avoiding LotSB spoilers.

[sinosleep]

That video is actually one of the few non-shotgun videos I've ever made. I wasn't linking to that specific vid, but rather to my channel, where there are 54 vids the majority of which feature shotguns cakewalking the game.

[ashwind]

@OP

I think you are too far from the enemy...

[Captain_Obvious_au]

marshalleck wrote...

Yeah, this is ridiculous. Almost as ridiculous as people saying ME2 vanguards suck.

Learn to play. Shotguns are far from bad in ME2--if you think they suck, it's because you're doing it wrong. 

Charming - because hey, if someone plays the game differently to you, lets insult them!

Shotguns in ME2 suck at being shotguns in the ME universe. They play signifantly differently to shotguns in ME1 and to be honest, the Mattock seems more useful in every single situation.

[marshalleck]

Captain_Obvious_au wrote...

marshalleck wrote...

Yeah, this is ridiculous. Almost as ridiculous as people saying ME2 vanguards suck.

Learn to play. Shotguns are far from bad in ME2--if you think they suck, it's because you're doing it wrong. 

Charming - because hey, if someone plays the game differently to you, lets insult them!

Shotguns in ME2 suck at being shotguns in the ME universe. They play signifantly differently to shotguns in ME1 and to be honest, the Mattock seems more useful in every single situation.

Well you're not just playing differently, are you? No, you're starting whine threads on the forum about how the game doesn't cater to you specifically. Learn to use the shotguns appropriately in ME2, and you'll see how not bad they are.

Sinosleep has already done all the work for you, all you need do is surf his youtube channel for a while. 

Modifié par marshalleck, 29 octobre 2010 - 03:25 .

[sinosleep]

Hold on, you specifically ask if you are doing something wrong then you get mad when someone says you are in fact doing something wrong? His tone was harsh, but you asked for it.

[ashwind]

mashavasilec wrote...
the example with Derelict reaper is probably the only place in game where shotguns can be considered not-so-fit for situation.

But... but... shotguns works very very well against husk....

Situations that I find shotgun not useful:
1 ) The stupid Preatorian!
2 ) Gunships, YMIR 
3 ) Annoying enemies who hide in far places you cant get to.
4 ) The Terminator (final boss)
5 ) Geth Colossus (but can be done! the timing is a little too tricky - some even said tis random.. not sure)
...umm thats all I can think of..

Modifié par ashwind, 29 octobre 2010 - 03:38 .

[sinosleep]

Colossus?

[VampireCommando]

I do admit, the shotguns in ME1 were worthy of there names.

[Kronner]

LOL

is all I can say, I am not gonna bother with replying to the obvious troll.
(after I saw a Soldier thread by this very poster it is pretty clear (s)he is a troll or just really does not get the game)

Modifié par Kronner, 29 octobre 2010 - 03:51 .

[ashwind]

sinosleep wrote...

Colossus?

Yeah.. I hate that video.

I died like 50,000 times with only 2 success after watching that video.

[curly haired boy]

ashwind wrote...

sinosleep wrote...

Colossus?

Yeah.. I hate that video.

I died like 50,000 times with only 2 success after watching that video.

you can do it the silly way, you know!

done like this, it'll never fire at you at all 

[jlb524]

mashavasilec wrote...

in short - shotguns are far from useless in ME2. in fact, shotgun is my preferred weapon on most of the classes

It's my favorite too, and I think any class can use them.  You just need to get close to an enemy to reap the most benefit from a shotty, and your class powers facilitate this (Tech Armor for a Sentinel, Combat Drone for an Engineer, obviously Charge for a Vanguard, Cloak for an Infiltrator, Singularity for an Adept, AR for a Soldier).

[Sleepicub09]

geth pulse shotgun



thread/

[SmokeyNinjas]

Hmm though these kind of misinformed threads were debunked months ago:huh:
Shotguns are ment for CQC so if getting in close isn't your thing then you shouldn't be using one:whistle:

[Captain_Obvious_au]

sinosleep wrote...

Hold on, you specifically ask if you are doing something wrong then you get mad when someone says you are in fact doing something wrong? His tone was harsh, but you asked for it.

I wasn't getting annoyed at the info, I was getting annoyed at the tone. Since I'm playing as a Vanguard already I'll switch my playing style and see if I like them any better.

mashavasilec wrote...

the example with Derelict reaper is
probably the only place in game where shotguns can be considered
not-so-fit for situation.

but that bothers me - that mission should be where the shotguns shines bright. Afterall you face numerous waves of melle enemies, which is what the shotgun should be ideal for.

Kronner wrote...

LOL

is all I can say, I am not gonna bother with replying to the obvious troll.
(after I saw a Soldier thread by this very poster it is pretty clear (s)he is a troll or just really does not get the game)

feel like explaing that? What soldier thread?

Sleepicub09 wrote...

geth pulse shotgun

thread/

The GPS is an excellent weapon, as I said in the original post. It's the other shotguns that irk me