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Dave of Canada

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I remember people loathing Morrigan when she was first announced, though I can't seem to remember if they were as offensive as these anti-Isabela people.

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Dave of Canada wrote...

I remember people loathing Morrigan when she was first announced, though I can't seem to remember if they were as offensive as these anti-Isabela people.

Loathing her for what reason?

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I think people complained about her 'boyish figure'.

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Collider wrote...

Dave of Canada wrote...

I remember people loathing Morrigan when she was first announced, though I can't seem to remember if they were as offensive as these anti-Isabela people.

Loathing her for what reason?


Her outfit, her face, her body, how nobody would love her. The usual.

Modifié par Dave of Canada, 30 octobre 2010 - 05:51 .


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I remember my initial comments about Morrigan - it was about her anatomy. "She has some very bad breast implants! It is not the size, it is the shape... tis an abomination".



:P

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Prediction:

From Mass Effect onward, there will always be people who perceive the lead female to look mannish in some way. Particularly chins.

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Collider wrote...

Prediction:
From Mass Effect onward, there will always be people who perceive the lead female to look mannish in some way. Particularly chins.


Not only lead females. According to these forums, everybody has a weird chin.

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Dave of Canada wrote...

Collider wrote...

Prediction:
From Mass Effect onward, there will always be people who perceive the lead female to look mannish in some way. Particularly chins.


Not only lead females. According to these forums, everybody has a weird chin.


Well they do. In Origins people tended to have long faces ('cept dwarves) and hollowed cheeks, with the eyes set high on the head (and sometimes small and far apart, too). In 2 all the features are sort of squished into the center of the face which makes the faces look wide, puffy and big-chinned. Weird.

I think part of the reason people like my avatar warden so much is that I brought her facial proportions back into the normal range. Her eyes are set to the max low on the low/high slider, for example. Oh and I pay careful attention to the line of the cheek, from cheekbone to chin, in 3/4 view. On all my wardens. Very easy to get freaky sunken cheeks in Origins.

Modifié par Anarya, 30 octobre 2010 - 06:02 .


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g-vapen

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Meh. I hated new Isabela's rotund chin but right now I'm okay with it.



I just hope Bioware doesn't give in to the rabid complaints here about the need to change Isa.

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the mellon head syndrome is strange in DA:O. But as for Isabela when I have seen other pics of her she looks just fine, it's just that cliff photo.
Morrigan I can't fault as I thought she was really pretty and still do.

Modifié par HagSpawn, 30 octobre 2010 - 06:06 .


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This woman (Isabela) looked horrid in DA:O.  Someone needs to post the picture from the toolset again. Just so people can see what they are defending.

Modifié par Harid, 30 octobre 2010 - 06:07 .


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g-vapen wrote...

Meh. I hated new Isabela's rotund chin but right now I'm okay with it.

I just hope Bioware doesn't give in to the rabid complaints here about the need to change Isa.

Meh I don't even care about DA2. I just like complaining. Chins...no pants, you no the usual.

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When I first met Isabela in DA:O she was a generic woman who was about to offer me a quest, But after a brief conversation and a censored orgy I never forgot her name. My point is that she looks alot more memorable. Also everyone says "She has no pants" boo hoo if you were a female mage or in some cases a rogue of either gender then you didn't were pants (example Robes of the Witch and Non-studded Leather Armor)

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Silent 1 wrote...

When I first met Isabela in DA:O she was a generic woman who was about to offer me a quest, But after a brief conversation and a censored orgy I never forgot her name. My point is that she looks alot more memorable. Also everyone says "She has no pants" boo hoo if you were a female mage or in some cases a rogue of either gender then you didn't were pants (example Robes of the Witch and Non-studded Leather Armor)


The problem is that she doesn't cover herself not that we are all pants fanatics

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Her legs were exposed in origins, thanks to Duster Armor.



I don't care what she is wearing as long as I can change it.



Think people should care more about that than her tunic.

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Anarya wrote...

On all my wardens. Very easy to get freaky sunken cheeks in Origins.


I actually redid one of my perfect playthroughs because of the odd cheeks, made it seem extra creepy. I only use vanilla resources though so it doesn't look that much better.

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Anarya

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Dave of Canada wrote...

Anarya wrote...

On all my wardens. Very easy to get freaky sunken cheeks in Origins.


I actually redid one of my perfect playthroughs because of the odd cheeks, made it seem extra creepy. I only use vanilla resources though so it doesn't look that much better.

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Yeah that's a perfect example. The top one just looks downright unnatural. The second is a vast improvement just by making that small adjustment.

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As long as you stayed away from the full beard options, generally you wouldn't screw up your warden's face.

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Anarya wrote...
 The top one just looks downright unnatural.


Peter Cushing has no idea what you're talking about.

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GodWood wrote...

This happens whenever a new female character is shown.

Agreed.

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Upsettingshorts wrote...

Anarya wrote...
 The top one just looks downright unnatural.


Peter Cushing has no idea what you're talking about.

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Tarkin! :o He has to look unnatural because he's puppy-murderingly evil.

On topic, people should stop marveling at amount of whining that anything revealed about the game causes on these forums. I've been saying that for about a week now. I wasn't here for the DAO marketing but I bet my boots Morrigan and Leliana got just as much flak as Isabela, if not more.

Modifié par shepard_lives, 30 octobre 2010 - 09:01 .


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Dave of Canada wrote...

I remember people loathing Morrigan when she was first announced, though I can't seem to remember if they were as offensive as these anti-Isabela people.

 From what I remember it really wasn't much different. People were just as crazy over Morrigan then as Isabela now. There was the boob size, boob spacing(my personal favorite) and shoulders width debacles. As well as the deepness of her torso.  She was called horse faced, tranny,barrel chested,bow legged and a whole host of other things. After they changed her look somewhat she was called a skank and a **** and all the stuff they're calling Isabela now. Everyone was also certain she was the FF love interest because her looking promiscuous meant she must be a lesbian or bi. And all this before we really knew anything about the character, at least with Isabela she has a bit of a reputation, Morrigan was just a witch from the wilds as far as we knew.

 The only difference here is they are taking a character(if a minor one) and changeing her appearance instead of just showing people something for the first time. It's all the same though, people like what they like and hate what they hate and the internet lets them say that in the rudest way possible with little consequence. Plus people waiting for something to come out stir the pot just because they're so damn frustrated with waiting.

Modifié par Lurklen, 30 octobre 2010 - 10:25 .


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GodWood wrote...
This happens whenever a new female character is shown.

Yup, and if DA2 will be moddable, there will be hundreds of custom Isabela morphs within the first week

Upsettingshorts wrote...
Peter Cushing has no idea what you're talking about.

Did you know he lives in Whitstable?

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Dave of Canada wrote...

I remember people loathing Morrigan when she was first announced, though I can't seem to remember if they were as offensive as these anti-Isabela people.


They were about as offensive as chix himself can be.

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Will this argument ever be over ? If people took the time to read through the pages of the many Isabela threads instead of complaining about her chin all the time, they would see that

1- it's an angle thing ; there are other screen shots

2- their taste isn't universal

3- the writers have explained several times why her look has been changed from the previous game

-and 4 (in case this comes up again) : she's not a ****.



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