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[GuardianAngel470]

fongiel24 wrote...

DarthCaine wrote...

There's like below a hundred Spectres in the galaxy. The chances of meeting one are slim (and 3 of them died)

The chances of randomly encountering another Spectre are slim. The chances of encountering another Specter if both of you are pursuing the same objective or if the Council sent them to help, hinder, or fight you are very good.

Huh, I seem to have brought this up elsewhere. Interesting...

Now, to the topic. I honestly want to see Ash/Kaiden hunting you down as a Spectre for the first part of ME3 and then have them join your team once the real attack begins and the council realizes you were right all along.

[TheBlackBaron]

GuardianAngel470 wrote...

Huh, I seem to have brought this up elsewhere. Interesting...

Now, to the topic. I honestly want to see Ash/Kaiden hunting you down as a Spectre for the first part of ME3 and then have them join your team once the real attack begins and the council realizes you were right all along.

Here's an idea - maybe if you've got the same old Council, Kaishley becomes a Spectre and is assigned to hunt you down, with the Council perceiving you as having gone rogue for any number of reasons (numero uno would be saving the base and thus tacitly continuing to work Cerberus, but I'm sure the writers could think of something in case you blew it up).

On the other hand, with a human-dominated Council, maybe they instead help you out and you have to deal with another Spectre coming after you on their own. I'd like to see a salarian, since we've already seen two turians and an asari in the role, but compared to the other Council races they seem pretty chill with the new galactic order.

[GuardianAngel470]

TheBlackBaron wrote...

GuardianAngel470 wrote...

Huh, I seem to have brought this up elsewhere. Interesting...

Now, to the topic. I honestly want to see Ash/Kaiden hunting you down as a Spectre for the first part of ME3 and then have them join your team once the real attack begins and the council realizes you were right all along.

Here's an idea - maybe if you've got the same old Council, Kaishley becomes a Spectre and is assigned to hunt you down, with the Council perceiving you as having gone rogue for any number of reasons (numero uno would be saving the base and thus tacitly continuing to work Cerberus, but I'm sure the writers could think of something in case you blew it up).

On the other hand, with a human-dominated Council, maybe they instead help you out and you have to deal with another Spectre coming after you on their own. I'd like to see a salarian, since we've already seen two turians and an asari in the role, but compared to the other Council races they seem pretty chill with the new galactic order.

The spectres are disbanded if it is an all human council. There wouldn't be any spectres.

And as for the first part of your comment, we are basically saying the same thing. Though, if you are Paragon and destroyed the base, the Council have even more reason to think you've gone rogue as you have the Rachni, Geth, and Krogans under your command. 

"Holy Parallels Batman!"

[Dagon]

[quote]TheBlackBaron wrote...

[quote]GuardianAngel470 wrote...

Huh, I seem to have brought this up elsewhere. Interesting...

Now, to the topic. I honestly want to see Ash/Kaiden hunting you down as a Spectre for the first part of ME3 and then have them join your team once the real attack begins and the council realizes you were right all along.

if they where hunting me i'd kill then those ****es

[Chaota Vos]

Wouldn't mind having a recently-indicted Spectre for you to mentor and guide (similar to what Shepard and Nihilus' relationship was meant to have been like before Eden Prime), who is all eager and idealistic which you can either nurture or warp with Paragon/Renegade choices. 

[Big I]

Slidell505 wrote...

Every specter you've seen has died. Including Shepard.

And three of the four seen have gone rogue (including Shepard). At this point I wouldn't be surprised if they revealed Nihlus was also a rogue Spectre.

[Captain_Obvious_au]

Honestly, I doubt the Council would let Shepard near another Spectre. I mean lets look at it.

- Nihlus: meets Shepard, dies shortly afterwards
- Saran: meets Shepard, eventually killed by Shepard
- Shepard: gets himself/herself killed
- Tela Vasir - meets Shepard, killed by Shepard a short time later

S/he is basically the Grim Reaper of Spectres. If you were the council, would YOU let another Spectre near him/her. I'd rather see another N7 on my team.

Modifié par Captain_Obvious_au, 01 novembre 2010 - 03:18 .

[TheBlackBaron]

GuardianAngel470 wrote...
The spectres are disbanded if it is an all human council. There wouldn't be any spectres.

Uh...what? The Spectres are still alive and kicking even if the old Council is dead, as proven by Shepard getting his status back. The only situation where that can't happen is if Udina is the Councilor, and that's only because Anderson doesn't have the power to reinstate Shepard in that case.

And as for the first part of your comment, we are basically saying the same thing. Though, if you are Paragon and destroyed the base, the Council have even more reason to think you've gone rogue as you have the Rachni, Geth, and Krogans under your command. 

"Holy Parallels Batman!"

...Can't say much more then, "Yeah, exactly".

Modifié par TheBlackBaron, 01 novembre 2010 - 06:42 .

[ShadyKat]

All organics are about to be wiped out by Reapers in ME3. I think it's safe to say, that all the Spectre agents should drop whatever missions they are currently on, to help save all organic life. It would be stupid for them not to show up and help to battle the Reapers once everyone finds out that the Reapers are very much real.

[Soahfreako]

O_O Yes. Yes. Bioware. Make it happen.

[Zan51]

Agree with OP that the VS did nothing to warrant being a Specter.
Also given how NO ONE on the council, either the old or new, (depending if you let them die) Alien or Human, apart from Anderson, who according t you who have read the books is now rogue himself, believes in Reapers, why the hell would they give Shepard a Specter to work with on some wild goose chase, after an enemy they think is the product of his/her deranged mind?? No one has even addressed THAT plot point in this rush to say. "Oooh gimme a shiny new Specter to play with ..."

Modifié par Zan51, 02 novembre 2010 - 12:28 .

[ReluctantMind]

It seems like the VS could have done something worthy of being inducted into the Spectres. We don't really know what they have been up to. TIM makes it sound like it is a pretty big deal that the VS has been sent to Horizon by the Alliance.

[Computer_God91]

Zan51 wrote...

Agree with OP that the VS did nothing to warrant being a Specter.
Also given how NO ONE on the council, either the old or new, (depending if you let them die) Alien or Human, apart from Anderson, who according t you who have read the books is now rogue himself, believes in Reapers, why the hell would they give Shepard a Specter to work with on some wild goose chase, after an enemy they think is the product of his/her deranged mind?? No one has even addressed THAT plot point in this rush to say. "Oooh gimme a shiny new Specter to play with ..."

I'm not demanding a specter squadmate, I'm suggesting that when the council pulls its head out of its ass that they should give shepard another specter to work with. Not only because it's a massive threat but to make the specters seem less of a bunch of rogues given the authority to do evil freely and offer nothing to the galaxy. I have suggested on another thread that Shepard could meld with Asari matriarchs to prove that the vision and everything was real because it was done with a couple Asari already.

ReluctantMind wrote...

It seems like the VS could have done something worthy of being inducted into the Spectres. We don't really know what they have been up to. TIM makes it sound like it is a pretty big deal that the VS has been sent to Horizon by the Alliance.

Give it a rest, we know what the VS has been doing on Horizon.

[Computer_God91]

GuardianAngel470 wrote...

Huh, I seem to have brought this up elsewhere. Interesting...

Now, to the topic. I honestly want to see Ash/Kaiden hunting you down as a Spectre for the first part of ME3 and then have them join your team once the real attack begins and the council realizes you were right all along.

There is absolutely no reason to make Ash or Kaidan a spectre as I already have stated. Also why would they hunt you down, they can be your LI why would it make sense to try and kill you?

[Soahfreako]

Computer God91 made an awesome thread. Yup.

Modifié par Soahfreako, 02 novembre 2010 - 02:26 .

[Computer_God91]

Soah is a jackass, that is all. Changing your posts and what not.

Modifié par Computer_God91, 02 novembre 2010 - 02:27 .

[Soahfreako]

Computer_God91 wrote...

Soah is a jackass, that is all. Changing your posts and what not.

Such profanity!

[TTReAPeR89]

Say thane gets cured (by mordin) thane could become a spectre either him or garrus

[lovgreno]

It wouldn't suprise me if Garrus is already a undercover Spectre sent by the Council to spy on Cerberus in ME2. That could be a cool twist of the story in ME3. If you let him die on the base, well, too bad for you.



As almost everyone else I would love a female turian spectre too. Two turian spectres might be a bit too much of course so either Garrus or something like that great picture on the previous page is fine by me.

[GuardianAngel470]

TheBlackBaron wrote...

GuardianAngel470 wrote...
The spectres are disbanded if it is an all human council. There wouldn't be any spectres.

Uh...what? The Spectres are still alive and kicking even if the old Council is dead, as proven by Shepard getting his status back. The only situation where that can't happen is if Udina is the Councilor, and that's only because Anderson doesn't have the power to reinstate Shepard in that case.

And as for the first part of your comment, we are basically saying the same thing. Though, if you are Paragon and destroyed the base, the Council have even more reason to think you've gone rogue as you have the Rachni, Geth, and Krogans under your command. 

"Holy Parallels Batman!"

...Can't say much more then, "Yeah, exactly".

If you let the first council die, then a new alien council is created, simply replacing the old one. If you killed the council, as in the renegade "There is no Fing way I'm saving those bastards" as opposed to the "I can't dedicate reinforcements to save them" then the spectres are disbanded.

As for if you chose Udina, if there is the old council, Anderson calls you in anyway, and just uses his clout as an advisor to justify it and get you out of a treason charge. There is no real difference. I can't say whether or not the same is true if you killed the council as I never finished that playthrough.

[GuardianAngel470]

Computer_God91 wrote...

GuardianAngel470 wrote...

Huh, I seem to have brought this up elsewhere. Interesting...

Now, to the topic. I honestly want to see Ash/Kaiden hunting you down as a Spectre for the first part of ME3 and then have them join your team once the real attack begins and the council realizes you were right all along.

There is absolutely no reason to make Ash or Kaidan a spectre as I already have stated. Also why would they hunt you down, they can be your LI why would it make sense to try and kill you?

They've moved up in the Alliance and we don't really know about their past actions during Shepard's two years of being dead, they could have begun to earn that sort of promotion.

As for them hunting you, it would be an order from the council and as a spectre they would be responsible for following that order.

As for them actually agreeing, they already think you betrayed them, all they would need is a little push. Explanations of STG files describing Shepard's alliance with the Geth, the Terminus Systems, the Rachni, and the Krogan and they would have enough reason to doubt you and possibly think you had been indoctrinated.

And if they were a love interest, it is even more likely they would agree. Once the seed of betrayal is planted, and the person believes they have been outright betrayed, logic gets put on the back burner. Emotions would overwrite understanding and it would take something major shake them out of it.

Like for instance, a galactic invasion.

[LordPennlocke]

GuardianAngel470 wrote...

As for them actually agreeing, they already think you betrayed them, all they would need is a little push. Explanations of STG files describing Shepard's alliance with the Geth, the Terminus Systems, the Rachni, and the Krogan and they would have enough reason to doubt you and possibly think you had been indoctrinated.

Their skewed 'logic' on Horizon makes it perfectly clear that they could reason something like this. Then again, I can't see how it would get them Spectre status either. The Council wants clear-thinking and rational members.

[LordPennlocke]

Crap double post. Sorry.

May as well turn it into something somewhat constructive.

Not to mention their loyalties lie directly with the Alliance, regardless of what happened to the Council at the end of ME1.

Modifié par LordPennlocke, 03 novembre 2010 - 09:06 .

[Netzach]

Shepard will be Saren 2,0 in ME3, renegade specter being hunted by others specters.

[Stazro]

Thinking about it, I just don't believe either of them has what it takes to become a spectre. Good soldiers and all, but Spectre? Nah.