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[Trenrade]

I can't get past this guy no matter how many times I try or how many tactics I try and brew up. he hits way too hard and doesn't take enough damage. Zevran and Leliana are only backstabbing for like 1-3 damage a hit and Alistair is having trouble producing adequate threat he also gets killed in less then 4 hits,  He seems to be immune to almost all magic damage I throw at him. any damage I do get off he just regenerates

I'm on normal

[termokanden]

I don't think he regenerates.

Anyway, the easiest way to beat Revenants is to use your most powerful melee character and ONLY have that one in melee ranged. If that means leaving someone doing nothing, then so be it. Place others behind objects so they can't be pulled close. Here you can use the stairs to block it.

By only having one in range, you ruin his most powerful attack called Double Strike (which does a very large part of his damage). Then it's just a matter of keeping healing on that one person. Either a healer with Regeneration and Heal will work, or you need some potions.

Oh, it does require some patience, but it gets better when you level up. For now, any +attack buffs you have will be good. Song of Courage, Heroic Offense, Rally, whatever you have.

Modifié par termokanden, 01 novembre 2010 - 06:14 .

[Trenrade]

termokanden wrote...

I don't think he regenerates.

Anyway, the easiest way to beat Revenants is to use your most powerful melee character and ONLY have that one in melee ranged. If that means leaving someone doing nothing, then so be it. Place others behind objects so they can't be pulled close. Here you can use the stairs to block it.

By only having one in range, you ruin his most powerful attack called Double Strike (which does a very large part of his damage). Then it's just a matter of keeping healing on that one person. Either a healer with Regeneration and Heal will work, or you need some potions.

Oh, it does require some patience, but it gets better when you level up. For now, any +attack buffs you have will be good. Song of Courage, Heroic Offense, Rally, whatever you have.

Alright thanks man I will try that out

[Marvin_Arnold]

On the other hand, IIRC, revenants are very vulnerable to ranged attacks. So if you place your other characters with ranged weapons (bows or crossbows) behind some barrels or something similar that prevents them from being pulled by the revenant, they can turn him into a pincushion in no time. And let yor mage use everything that freezes or incapacitates the target.

[DWSmiley]

The easiest way to beat it is to open the gate and let Ser Perth and his men help you.

[Morwen Eledhwen]

DWSmiley is right; the quickest way is to open the gate, but if you're stubborn and would prefer to do it with your own party, the other people here are right. Use one tank to draw the bulk of the Revenant's melee attacks and heal continuously. Everyone else use ranged weapons. Cone of Cold does help as does Pinning Shot. Adding poison to weapons also helps. If you have an extra tank or non-ranged companion (like I often have both Alistair and Dog in this situation), have one of them ignore the Revenant and focus on its minions. They like to cluster so Dog's stunning tactics and any bombs you have handy will help take those out.

[termokanden]

The tactic works for all Revenants, so I'd like to think it wasn't redundant



People think they do too much damage, and that's because of Double Strike.

[Giggles_Manically]

Dont underestimate Cone of Cold.

A double mage party where one heals, and one uses this to lock it down is very powerful.



Those few seconds that he is not attacking each time kill him faster, and keep your companion alive that much longer. It does make the difference.

[Addai]

DWSmiley wrote...

The easiest way to beat it is to open the gate and let Ser Perth and his men help you.

That was going to be my question.  I let the redshirt NPCs take the brunt and plink away from range.

Don't forget to deal with the archers on the steps as arrow damage adds up.  Alternatively, you could Force Field the big ugly while you do this (assuming your mage has FF) and then you're free to concentrate on him alone.

Then there's always turning down the difficulty.

[13Dannyboy13]

One thing I like to use for revenants is spells that damage over time, like walking bomb, and curse of mortality, also use force field if you have it, to clear the archers and other undead in the area before fighting him. This is the only revenant that I found doesn't drop a scrap of paper, although it is the easiest one, the main thing for fighting these things is strategy. Keep your tank in close and holding the revenant's attention, which can be difficult if you use the earlier spells I mentioned, and everyone else needs to keep out of range from it's Miasma (or whatever that spell is called) otherwise the fight will drag on.

[DWSmiley]

Addai67 wrote...

Don't forget to deal with the archers on the steps as arrow damage adds up.  Alternatively, you could Force Field the big ugly while you do this (assuming your mage has FF) and then you're free to concentrate on him alone.

Then there's always turning down the difficulty.

Yeah, those archer grunts can sting.  That puzzled me until I read a post by a dev that archers get a bonus when firing downhill.

Morrigan doesn't usually have it by Redcliffe but misdirection hex is aces vs. revenants.

[Morwen Eledhwen]

13Dannyboy13 wrote...

One thing I like to use for revenants is spells that damage over time, like walking bomb, and curse of mortality, also use force field if you have it, to clear the archers and other undead in the area before fighting him. This is the only revenant that I found doesn't drop a scrap of paper, although it is the easiest one, the main thing for fighting these things is strategy. Keep your tank in close and holding the revenant's attention, which can be difficult if you use the earlier spells I mentioned, and everyone else needs to keep out of range from it's Miasma (or whatever that spell is called) otherwise the fight will drag on.

The Black Vials Revenants are immune to Cold spells, unfortunately --bastids.  <_< But the Redcliffe courtyard Revenant is not. Actually I think that Revenant has been nerfed --it was a Boss-level foe the first time I faced it, but it's only been Elite the last 2 times.

[Morwen Eledhwen]

DWSmiley wrote...

Morrigan doesn't usually have it by Redcliffe but misdirection hex is aces vs. revenants.

I've successfully Paralyzed, Disoriented and Vulnerability Hexed Revenants including the Black Vials and Juggernaut Revenants, but it's not 100% guaranteed and does depend on the spellpower of your Mage.

My Rogues are also big fans of bombs and poison. The bombs seem to temporarily disable, distract or immobilize them so they can't really get going. I use bombs to contain Gaxkang the Unbound as well. It may seem cheap but --especially when it comes to Gaxkang-- for me it's a case of whatever works.

Modifié par Morwen Eledhwen, 02 novembre 2010 - 04:15 .

[errant_knight]

DWSmiley wrote...

The easiest way to beat it is to open the gate and let Ser Perth and his men help you.

I've found that tends to get them slaughtered. I like to see all the remaining knights live.

When you first come out into the courtyard, I find it best to equip everyone with ranged weapons. If you move forward just a little bit, you can activate the archers on the stairs without activating the revenant, and take them out with ranged weapons and your mage. After that, I switch to melee, although sometimes I keep Leliana as an archer, at least for part of the battle. I put the PC and Alistair on the revenant, and let Leliana and my mage take out the undead. The mage also does healing.  The whole thing is a lot easier when you take out the archers first, although still challenging early in the game. I tend to leave my mage out of the revenant fight so as not to draw its attention to them, so they're available to heal right through the fight.

Modifié par errant_knight, 02 novembre 2010 - 06:11 .

[errant_knight]

Morwen Eledhwen wrote...

13Dannyboy13 wrote...

One thing I like to use for revenants is spells that damage over time, like walking bomb, and curse of mortality, also use force field if you have it, to clear the archers and other undead in the area before fighting him. This is the only revenant that I found doesn't drop a scrap of paper, although it is the easiest one, the main thing for fighting these things is strategy. Keep your tank in close and holding the revenant's attention, which can be difficult if you use the earlier spells I mentioned, and everyone else needs to keep out of range from it's Miasma (or whatever that spell is called) otherwise the fight will drag on.

The Black Vials Revenants are immune to Cold spells, unfortunately --bastids.  <_< But the Redcliffe courtyard Revenant is not. Actually I think that Revenant has been nerfed --it was a Boss-level foe the first time I faced it, but it's only been Elite the last 2 times.

I've successfully used cold spells on them, so their must be a statistical factor. It only lasts a few seconds, though. They are very resistant.

[Relshar]

I usualy take out the skeletons on the battlements first then use a stealther to go and open the gates. Once done the knights take the first part of the agro while my party gets into their places and beat him down. I use a tank, ranged dps, melee dps and a healer.

This can be a tough fight, may want to get Wynne before doing this one.

[Morwen Eledhwen]

errant_knight wrote...

Morwen Eledhwen wrote...

The Black Vials Revenants are immune to Cold spells, unfortunately --bastids.  <_< But the Redcliffe courtyard Revenant is not. Actually I think that Revenant has been nerfed --it was a Boss-level foe the first time I faced it, but it's only been Elite the last 2 times.

I've successfully used cold spells on them, so their must be a statistical factor. It only lasts a few seconds, though. They are very resistant.

Hmm. . .even with Morrigan at high Magic levels and using the Winter's Breath staff, all I ever see when she casts at a Black Vials Revenant is Immune! Immune! Immune!

Modifié par Morwen Eledhwen, 02 novembre 2010 - 08:16 .

[Bullets McDeath]

Revenants are immune to cold damage, but can be frozen. Even Cone of Cold will only last a few seconds on them, though. Still better than nothing!

[Elhanan]

I find that staying close to the staircase is best to approach it, and then ascend the stairs partially to avoid the Pull effect, and make it come to you. Direct approaches don't work so well with me. Once I had two mages cast Fireball, and then the Warden was Pulled into the AoE; not pretty.

Modifié par Elhanan, 03 novembre 2010 - 06:42 .

[Bruddajakka]

A lot of Undead are immune or highly resistant to cold spells actually they either take little to no damage from it but you can still use it to lock them down. In the case of a Revenant you can use Icy Grasp, and Cone of Cold to keep them locked down while you wail away on them.

[Morwen Eledhwen]

Crushing Prison is fun and usually effective, except it just seemed to make Gaxkang angry. Angrier, anyway, and more likely to make my party explode.

[errant_knight]

outlaworacle wrote...

Revenants are immune to cold damage, but can be frozen. Even Cone of Cold will only last a few seconds on them, though. Still better than nothing!

I neve paid attention to the damage, it's true, as my purpose was only to slow them down to that Alistair, my PC, and Leliana could get a few hits in without taking damage, or so everyone had a second to get healed.

[beggargirl]

Speaking of Revenants. Is there a way to tell that you've killed them all? I think I've always missed one in my playthroughs . Do you get anything for killing them all?

[Silver_Rain90]

No you get nothing for it i killed everyone of them i know it^^, just a few words for the Codex not more that sucks

[DWSmiley]

There are six black vials; the sixth is a random encounter in Denerim. No reward for killing them all except a sense of satisfaction.