FedericoV wrote...
Just a stupid example to give some kind of context: there is a scene just after the first stream of Darkspawn where you can decide to handle the fight yourself or to use the help of Bethany/Carver. In ME, Shepard would have solved the fight himself, no matter what.
Icinix wrote...
<_< Try living in Australia....
Modifié par Upsettingshorts, 01 novembre 2010 - 10:27 .
It's always cool to hear more about the demo. I'm interested in seeing more on how the mages changed, since it sounds a lot more fun to play this time around. The Revan/Hawke comparison takes me back. I enjoyed his character a lot and the personality choices in DA2 sound a lot more fleshed out than in ME.
Icinix wrote...
shepard_lives wrote...
Oh, how I hate living in northeastern Italy. Nothing interesting ever happens here.
<_< Try living in Australia....
andar91 wrote...
@AtreiyaN7: I'll admit I don't like the words Action RPG, but only because I think they're misleading. From reading the rest of the review here, it sounds like what he/she meant by that was that it focuses on action being fun a lot more, but when I think of an aRPG I instantly think of Baldur's Gate Dark Alliance and things like that. Which is soooo not what I think the gameplay is going to be like. RPG's are such a big category, it's easy to get confused.
Jonp382 wrote...
FedericoV wrote...
Just a stupid example to give some kind of context: there is a scene just after the first stream of Darkspawn where you can decide to handle the fight yourself or to use the help of Bethany/Carver. In ME, Shepard would have solved the fight himself, no matter what.
Did Hawke ever do anything you didn't expect him too? Would you select an option and get an unanticipated result from Hawke, no matter how minor?
Icinix wrote...
So it avoids a clear cut - Top Choice Paragon - Bottom Choice Renegade - for a more, here is a choice / here is the consequences?
Upsettingshorts wrote...
Plus on the subject of Italy any country that has Silvio Berlusconi as their head of government cannot possibly claim to live somewhere that isn't interesting.
FedericoV wrote...
lunarknightmage wrote...
great review!
btw........were you able to play as Mage Hawke in the demo?
also, what was your opinion on the way mages melee attack in the demo?
thanks.
Yes, I was able to play as a Mage on my second demo playthrough. My opinion on mage melee attack is that while being less powerful than melee basic attack (obviously) Bioware has designed a better system than DA:O's here. You will probably want to use spells as much as you can, but still, you can rely on your basic attack against minions and have not to stand passively behind the lines when you finish mana. In that way mages feel less like the classical D&D artillery/controller and are more engaging and active to play. I must say that in the demo it feels like a fresh and new approach to that class.
Modifié par lunarknightmage, 01 novembre 2010 - 10:50 .
FedericoV wrote...
andar91 wrote...
Yep you're right. What I mean at the end is that combat feels more actiony than DA:O. But it's not an hack and slash clickfest. But I've played DA:O on the PC and the demo was on the consolle, so take my world with a grain of salt.
Having said that, for me aRPG is not a bad world. It's only a different approach to combat (and combat only). The Withcher was an aRPG and was still great just o make the first example that comes to mind. Jade Empire and Kotor were aRPGs too. Even BG I was called an aRPG by fan of turn based system at the time.
Icinix wrote...
Did you have much chance to upgrade your skills or abilities? Or was there no time to view the character screens..OH and did you engage in any loot grabbing?
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maxernst wrote...
I wouldn't really call the Witcher an aRPG. To me that term implies a hack & slash lootfest and the Witcher has far too much attention to plot and dialogue for that. I have issues with the game because its main character is much too tightly defined and I don't like him very much, which makes it hard for me to care about it. But to my mind, the term aRPG calls up games like Diablo and Torchlight, which it certainly isn't.
Upsettingshorts wrote...
Icinix wrote...
<_< Try living in Australia....
Got a ton of deadly animals, nice beaches, and crazy politicians. Seems eventful to me.
Plus on the subject of Italy any country that has Silvio Berlusconi as their head of government cannot possibly claim to live somewhere that isn't interesting.
FedericoV wrote...
Icinix wrote...
Did you have much chance to upgrade your skills or abilities? Or was there no time to view the character screens..OH and did you engage in any loot grabbing?
No loot and no upgrades. But I take a brief look to the charachter screen and as I've said in the original post, the system while seeming streamlined, felt more clear, deep and organic nonetheless. Something on the line "easy to learn, difficult to master". Mind, just a very general impression based on my long experience with CRPGs and RPGs too
AtreiyaN7 wrote...
Upsettingshorts wrote...
Icinix wrote...
<_< Try living in Australia....
Got a ton of deadly animals, nice beaches, and crazy politicians. Seems eventful to me.
Plus on the subject of Italy any country that has Silvio Berlusconi as their head of government cannot possibly claim to live somewhere that isn't interesting.
But the wallabies and koalas are adorable. Yay for fuzzy-wuzzy marsupials!
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Modifié par Lumikki, 02 novembre 2010 - 06:41 .
Lumikki wrote...
Nice review, but last comment isn't true. DA2 is NOT a better game than DA:O under EVERY aspect. The wrong word here is every aspect, because example player has less races to play, that is aspect what was better in DAO. I'm sure if we look other character development choises too we see that DA2 is more limited. My point, DA2 may be better game in MANY aspect, but not every.
Maybe, but players don't judge game based developers budget, but what's in it for player. I know, more isn't allways better, but DA2 did reduse players choises. People like customation, when it get redused on some aspects, I would never call it better in every aspect, would you? It's not about was it right choise or not, it's more about calling it better in every aspect.nightcobra8928 wrote...
Lumikki wrote...
Nice review, but last comment isn't true. DA2 is NOT a better game than DA:O under EVERY aspect. The wrong word here is every aspect, because example player has less races to play, that is aspect what was better in DAO. I'm sure if we look other character development choises too we see that DA2 is more limited. My point, DA2 may be better game in MANY aspect, but not every.
that is kind of a double edged sword though, as to me less origins mean more allocation of resources to flesh out the main story.
Modifié par Lumikki, 02 novembre 2010 - 06:55 .
I got the same idearJarek_Cousland wrote...
If Hawke asks Carver to help him/her with the darkspawns.....
Well, I think we all can fill in the blank.
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