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[Kaiser Shepard]

...and apparently Hawke is the only one capable of helping the Chantry put it back together.

The question is: Will you?

Assuming you will fight the Chantry and her Templars for a significant part of the game, be that for control of Kirkwall or simply protecting your apostate little sister from them, would you be willing to help them?

Or won't you be willing to put your differences aside and simply plunge the entirety of Thedas into an all-consuming war?

Modifié par Kaiser Shepard, 02 novembre 2010 - 06:28 .

[Indoctrination]

I think you're making a lot of crazy assumptions here. Hawke spends most of the game fighting the Chantry? What exactly are you basing an assumption like that off of? We know that Kirkwall is in control of the Templars right now but Kirkwall is just one city and not the whole of Thedas.

[Kaiser Shepard]

Keyword: assuming



And it's just a what-if question, no need to get all serious about it.

[Silhouelle]

I'll never help the chantry, unless you have to for an achievement/trophy. Can't stand the Chantry and as I'll be playing a Mage myself, screw 'em. I'd rather see the Chantry in ashes than the world peaceful under their banner.

[KcK__]

Let's indeed only ASSUME that you could be able to make such a drastic decision considering the chantry's future... I've always disliked the chantry... And I hold my true friends and family in high pedestal. If the decision would be something like: Unite the chantry/nations and sacrifice your sister/brother/family or don't prevent the great war and save your sister/brother/family the decision is quite easy to me. To hell with the world, no one messes with my family!



However, it's not always so black and white, in the game I usually make decision based on the info given to me and my own (not my characters) personality... It's really impossible for me to say what decision will I make before I've played the game

[Maugrim]

Not enough data to reach consensus. In general my characters tend to be critical of the chantry but not to the point of wanting to destroy or burn it to the ground. In short my characters prefer reform over revolution. That being said sometimes reform is too slow or not otherwise an option and revolution is needed. Basically I will have to see how the interaction with the Chantry goes through out DAII and see the possibilities that this 'war' may bring before casting my lot with either side.

Modifié par makenzieshepard, 02 novembre 2010 - 06:51 .

[blothulfur]

My first character will free all mages in Kirkwall by wading through rivers of their blood and then go and get the makers blessing and a nice fat purse of gold, hell he'll stick bethanys severed head on his codpiece if they pay enough.

[errant_knight]

Big assumptions here, but my characters would always want to avert a war, if possible. And while the Chantry goes overboard, I think they serve important functions of many kinds, so it would be putting differences aside, almost certainly. But we also don't know exactly what's going on in Kirkwall, so it's pretty difficult to say.

[Utoryo]

If I remember correctly, someone from Bioware (David? Mike?) mentioned that at the point in time where Cassandra is interrogating Varic, the Chantry is in in a very bad position - perhaps even on the verge of collapse.



My theory is that the Qunari have concluded that the reason they failed in their previous war is that despite their enemies' lack of real unity, the Chantry allowed/forced them to focus their energies against the greater threat through the Exalted Marches, arguably just like the Crusades in the real world. They had little difficulty picking off kingdoms one at a time, but their numbers were/are too few to win an all-against-one.



In the "Destiny" video, the Qunari's target seems to be the cowering individual with a crown. My guess is he's someone high-up in the Chantry's hierarchy, and I'd nearly think he's the Male Divine of the Tevinter Imperium, but that's probably reading too much into it. Either way their goal must be to destroy the Chantry's structure to pave the way for an all-out invasion.



If I'm right, my guess is the question posed to Hawke by the end of the game is how best to unite Thedas agaisnt the Qunari: must it be through a renewed Chantry, or something very different? I know what my Warden's answer would be ("Hey Alistair dear, can you marry Empress Celene and convince her to push the Chantry to make me new Divine? I know I'm a mage and I don't believe in that silly Maker or anything, but you know I would just love commanding that many fools around, and have you seen the Divine's dress?!") but I don't know what kind of Hawke I want to play yet, so who knows

[UberDuber]

If I can choose, I'm not helping the Chantry, it can burn.

[Bruddajakka]

The current Viscount of Kirkwall was put into place by the Chantry who disposed the former ruler.

Honestly the Chantry probably does need to collapse. Too large, and too corrupt for too long.

Modifié par Bruddajakka, 02 novembre 2010 - 07:16 .

[Brockololly]

It'll depend on how Flemeth fits into things I think. But my guess is that DA2 ends a bit like The Two Towers- we'll maybe have Hawke avert some war or something in the immediate but with the Chantry weakening/collapsing seemingly no matter what, my guess is that its not going to be until DA3 when Morrigan comes back that **** hits the fan and whatever "change" Morrigan hinted at in Witch Hunt comes into full play.

[Drz]

I hope the game concludes with the player's major decision ranging from Supporting the Chantry, Apostate Mages and the Qun. That would be a major change to the entire world of Thedas and only making the possible DA3 even more exciting.

[upsettingshorts]

Personally, I'd embrace an RPG that didn't have the goal of restoring the status quo. It'd be a nice change.

[ErichHartmann]

Upsettingshorts wrote...

Personally, I'd embrace an RPG that didn't have the goal of restoring the status quo. It'd be a nice change.

I embrace the idea of forming my own status quo.  

[Spacelion]

Upsettingshorts wrote...

Personally, I'd embrace an RPG that didn't have the goal of restoring the status quo. It'd be a nice change.

Agreed. Jigsaw situations are nice and all, but overuse just gets me tired.

[soundchaser721]

So the world is at the brink of war... Sounds like a perfect time for the warden to jump back in action, turn to Hawke and say: "Relax, I got this one". 

Modifié par soundchaser721, 02 novembre 2010 - 08:54 .

[Icinix]

Kaiser Shepard wrote...
Or won't you be willing to put your differences aside and simply plunge the entirety of Thedas into an all-consuming war?

Yeah, lets do that!  It would make the story dynamics that much more interesting!

[aaniadyen]

soundchaser721 wrote...

So the world is at the brink of war... Sounds like a perfect time for the warden to jump back in action, turn to Hawke and say: "Relax, I got this one". 

Isn't he slightly busy for the first two years go the game fighting the blight in Ferelden, then spending the remaining 8 years either dead, with Morrigan, ruling Ferelden, etc?

[LastFadingSmile]

UberDuber wrote...

If I can choose, I'm not helping the Chantry, it can burn.

This. I'll even strike the match.

[soundchaser721]

aaniadyen wrote...

soundchaser721 wrote...

So the world is at the brink of war... Sounds like a perfect time for the warden to jump back in action, turn to Hawke and say: "Relax, I got this one". 

Isn't he slightly busy for the first two years go the game fighting the blight in Ferelden, then spending the remaining 8 years either dead, with Morrigan, ruling Ferelden, etc?

Well, the world is at the brink of war towards the end of DA2, which details Hawke's rise to power and becoming the champion of kirkwall. Now, before I get blasted with "My wardens dead!" it wouldn't be totally out of the question that the warden returns, for whatever reason, to resolve this destructive conflict-if hes alive that is. Morrigan is most likely going to be a huge player in this conflict, along with Flemeth. If the warden lives and chooses to go through the eluvian with Morrigan, I'd hope he would come back with her, unless of course, he is written off while in the mirror world which would be pretty lame.

[Icinix]

I can see it now, you play through the whole game while Cassandra listens on...learning how Hawke begun and finished his rise to Power....Varric takes her to where Hawke is, Cassandra tells Hawke the whole world is on the brink of war....epic music.



Roll credits - now we wait for DA3....



Nah. Can't imagine they would do that.

[upsettingshorts]

As long as the Rise to Power itself is fun, I'd be fine with that.