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[Vaalyah]

I had never paid attention to this but this evening I did... isn't a bit strange that Grobnar, a gnome, and Deekin, a cobold, are taller than my character (an elf)??? Is there something wrong in dimensions or am I becoming crazy?

Modifié par Vaalyah, 07 novembre 2010 - 03:04 .

[Vaalyah]

Here a pic of the strange phenomena I am referring about

http://lh6.ggpht.com...66w/Deekin4.jpg

please, look at Deekin and Grobnar... I don't think it's normal they're so big :-(

Modifié par Vaalyah, 04 novembre 2010 - 05:09 .

[Arkalezth]

The other characters are normal, but they're very big, yes. That never happened to me, do you have any mod installed or something?

[Vaalyah]

Only those I had installed since July, and it hasn't happened before :-(

The romance pack, some meshes for the drow head, no more...

[Arkalezth]

I have no idea of what could cause that, sorry. Maybe someone else can tell you something.
Until then, you could try to google it...

Modifié par Arkalezth, 04 novembre 2010 - 06:08 .

[I_Raps]

Is Raylene also enlarged? How about the gnome painter (if he's still around)?  What about the bard in Blacklake (again, if he's still around)?   What about the gnome merchant at Old Owl Well?

Also, try this.  Click on your PC and right-click on her.  Open the console and enter these commands:

debugmode 1
givefeat 375

Does your character get bigger?

You might also start a new game just to see what happens with a halfling or gnome character.  Also try a human bard.

...

There's nothing special about either the gnome or kobold models.  They're just drawn at 1:1 scale, so I have to believe there's something in your overrides that's doing this.  We want to find out who's actually affected. 

Modifié par I_Raps, 04 novembre 2010 - 07:16 .

[Shaughn78]

make sure that you are not using a new appearance.2da. That may have been inadvertenly added.



The appearance 2da has scaling in it. Kobolds are @ .45 scale and gnomes are @ .65. If these were changed to 1 they would be at human hight and taller than your elf.

[Vaalyah]

@I_raps: I am in that moment of the game, and I had not gone around in the game since yesterday. I should check. I'll do what you have suggested, thanks.
@Shaughn: in my game I had not add any mod recently. Nor modified any .2da file... However, could you tell me some more details about this problem? I would like to check directly in the file.

EDIT:
Just checked: the files is correct. 0.45 and 0.65.

Modifié par Vaalyah, 04 novembre 2010 - 08:31 .

[painofdungeoneternal]

they might have used enlarge ( the spell ) or the like



If appearance is unchanged, there is either another appearance.2da, or some custom scripting/spell effects going on.

[Vaalyah]

We were just out of the Flagon. No one has cast any spell... plus also Deekin (that is just "someone of the city") is enlarged! (please, have a look at the pic in the link)

[I_Raps]

Vaalyah wrote...

@I_raps: I am in that moment of the game, and I had not gone around in the game since yesterday. I should check. I'll do what you have suggested, thanks.
@Shaughn: in my game I had not add any mod recently. Nor modified any .2da file... However, could you tell me some more details about this problem? I would like to check directly in the file.

EDIT:
Just checked: the files is correct. 0.45 and 0.65.

Also give us the names of the mods you do have (romance pack and heads plus anthing else?).  It would be easier and faster for us to just download them and look them over than sending questions and answers back and forth.

[painofdungeoneternal]

Vaalyah wrote...

We were just out of the Flagon. No one has cast any spell... plus also Deekin (that is just "someone of the city") is enlarged! (please, have a look at the pic in the link)

you assume quite a bit, i have been dealing with bugs long enough to know you should not assume anything.

If it's not an appearance.2da issue, it's an enlarge spell or other script adjusting their size, or there blueprint. Look at each possible cause closely, possess grobnar and look for spell effects on him and make him rest, and look for items too.

I would try recreating it in a new game with no mods installed, or just seeing if it's just a random hiccup in just that saved game. It could just be a completely random bug which will never happen again.

[Vaalyah]

Ok, back after checking. No spell at work (I tried to rest and nothing changed, then I loaded an old save file, when all was ok, and Grobnar still was huge).
I can write here a list of the mod in my folder, but again, I haven't add anything new lately. Another thing: I can't see the intro movie while loading the game (Ammon Jerro fighting with the King of Shadow). Maybe another bug or is it normal after installing MotB? (by the way, where can I find the music file of the loading screen? You know, when you enter the game and load a save file, for the first time after entering)

http://img834.images...eenshot417q.jpg my override folder in the installation folder. As you can see, except for the romance pack files (those in the folders with the name of companions) there are just zipped files! So, they're not working.

and 2 pics for my documents/NWN2/override folder
http://img191.images...reenshot418.jpg
http://img607.images...reenshot423.jpg
some meshes, the object changer (that has been there since July) and nothing more. Too many appearance.2da files for my tastes... However, as I said, I am not adding mods since at least 3 weeks...

Modifié par Vaalyah, 04 novembre 2010 - 09:45 .

[I_Raps]

First, don't assume those zips aren't working. The game reads zips. Almost all the game data is in zips. The first thing to do is move all of those archives out of there and see what happens.

Second, installing MOTB is probably what changed - but it doesn't cause those effects normally. I would bet one of your mods is conflicting with MOTB. appearance_changer_105 leaps out immediately as a suspect.


p.s.  You naughty girl, you. 

Don't worry, mine's about the same.

Modifié par I_Raps, 04 novembre 2010 - 10:04 .

[Vaalyah]

Now it's a bit too late for me, I need to sleep a bit since in 7 hours I should be at work, however, tomorrow I will follow your suggestion and let you all know the results. Thank you all! ^^



By the way, quarrelling with my W7. I can't see the subfolder in "Documents and Settings" folder o_O Even if I am an admin and I set the security access like "let the admin see here". There's something strange about that! But I am too tired today to understand anything!

[MokahTGS]

Yup, there's tons of files in those pics that could be the culprit.



1) Rename your override folder to x_override

2) Create a new folder called override

3) Load the game and see if the problem persists.

[painofdungeoneternal]

Nothing needs to be there, i doubt the romance pack does either. Get it all in my docs. ( romance pack was done long before this was accepted wisdom ). If the author tells you to, come ask how not to. Even the toolset plugins now go in my docs.

[Vaalyah]

Well, I have about 2 mods installed. The others are just mesh files. That I should have put in a single folder, but you have understood... :-P

At the G3 forums they say the romance pack must be in the NWN2/override folders. I had not invented anything! However, the romance pack is there since the first installation and no one has never complain about problems...

I'll try to rename the override folder and try to discover what is creating this problem, thank you! ^^

[I_Raps]

(1) Go ahead and clean up your override folders and see if that fixes it. It won't hurt in any case.

(2) IF that doesn't work - I wonder if it's only Deekin and Grobnar - I think it might be everyone that's affected. All of the characters are drawn with a Scale attribute, but for most this is close to 1 so you can't tell any difference if it's being ignored unless you look for it. You can try editing a copy of your saved game - make one character much bigger, someone else much smaller, a third person the same height but very fat etc.

If it's affecting everyone, it might be a graphics card or driver setting problem.  Combined with your other problems, I'm leaning towards this.  Or it could be a random glitch like painofdungeoneternal mentioned that won't repeat.

Modifié par I_Raps, 05 novembre 2010 - 08:53 .

[I_Raps]

If you don't know how to edit your saved game, look here:   http://social.biowar...5/index/5102762

You can ignore all the details, but get one of those tools.  Each character file - sand.ros for example - has a Scale setting with three entries.  x is left to right, y is front to back, z is height.

[Vaalyah]

Ok, I found the problem. The problem is this:

http://nwvault.ign.c...al.Detail&id=79

I only have one of those file installed, the "StdAlone_drow_hElf_Tief_Addon_1.rar". Ok, guys, please, help me! I would prefer having Grobnar oversize than having to give up to my PC face. That file comes with an appearance.2da file, that can't be removed (I tried, no texture was found by the game). In that appearance file, the kobold and the gnome are not set to 0.65 and 0.45 but to 1. So, it's the origin of the problem. Can someone help me please?



PS: is there a way not to use the DVD in the player when I load the game? I HATE the "take the music CD from the player, insert MotB DVD, play, take the MotB DVD, put the music CD back in the player..." routine...

PPS: however, even when I had no override folder, the intro movie didn't come...

[painofdungeoneternal]

change those rows to how they should be, you would have to edit one or the other but you know what is wrong.



With 1.23 you don't need the dvd in the game anymore.

[Vaalyah]

To say the truth... I have opened that file but I am unable to see "rows", it's more a random mess o_O

Could you be more precise, please? :-s

[painofdungeoneternal]

There are rows, use excel or something which has no word wrap. A 2da editor, a program such as textpad, something beyond notepad.