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[metalcraze33]

hey tjpags do you think if the orlesians had invaded Loghain would be dead?

[Merilsell]

metalcraze33 wrote...

omg my EYES!!! arrrGGGH

His chantry cherry tis glorious, right? Though Hairy-stair is even MORE glorious:

[tuppence95]

TJPags wrote...

@Merilsell  . .   As if I needed another reason to hate him . . . .

That was sooooooo wrong . . . .

Oh, but it's wrong from all sides!  You think Alistair-girls like that picture?  But it is pretty funny.  

[ejoslin]

Addai67 wrote...

ejoslin wrote...

What is not a good thing is that Alistair IS deferring to his Chancellor on almost all issues, even hardened.  It's more apparent he's a puppet king if he's unchanged, but...  I don't know.  If the warden is chancellor, I don't see Alistair as being portrayed as the real ruler, even when hardened, as he's deferring to the Warden most of the time.

Edit: The only time you don't see a slide implying the warden is the leader is if Alistair and the Warden are married (if the warden is chancellor that is).  And only in a love match, really.

I would agree it's not a good thing if the epilogue indicated the kingdom fell into ruin.  It doesn't.  It does say that both Anora and Alistair do better if they have a co-ruler.  To me that is the principle at work that there is wisdom in cooperative reign.  Alistair's tendency to look to someone else could be a weakness, but so could Anora's belief that she doesn't need anyone else.

Ok, you're going into directions that I've never said nor implied.  It's like, I responded to someone saying that Alistair seemed to rule on his own ok, and I pointed out that he relies on either his warden chancellor or Eamon.  And once I posted the slides that showed that in fact, as sole ruler, he DOES defer to (relies on is a nicer way of saying this) the warden chancellor, that this comes out.

So I'm done with this particular conversation.  I said what I meant, I backed it up, and I'm not going to argue points that I never made.

Whether Alistair being this malleable is a good or bad thing remains to be seen.  I think, as the warden ends up disappearing, it probably is not, but that is something that will come to light in a future game.  Most likely.

[Yankee23]

tuppence95 wrote...

TJPags wrote...

@Merilsell  . .   As if I needed another reason to hate him . . . .

That was sooooooo wrong . . . .

Oh, but it's wrong from all sides!  You think Alistair-girls like that picture?  But it is pretty funny.  

Oh Tuppence, you know we do in our own twisted way.

[metalcraze33]

They didn't" correct" me they just have different opinions on the character.

All discussions are really based on personal preference there are no hard facts that make him likable or not likable to everyone.

[TJPags]

Oh now stop - I can't stay in here and hate on him if you're going to keep posting things like that!!!!

[metalcraze33]

I want to see zev like that woot

[tuppence95]

metalcraze33 wrote...

All discussions are really based on personal preference there are no hard facts that make him likable or not likable to everyone.

They did correct you on several things that are canon in the game.  But you are right.  Much of it is personal preference, so you should try to take part in the discussion.  There's been some very interesting things talked about.  But changing the subject each time things get interesting, isn't really taking part in the debate. 

Modifié par tuppence95, 08 novembre 2010 - 02:34 .

[Merilsell]

Wait don't run, you haven't seen Sparta-stair yet.

[TJPags]

This thread must get to a new page.



An Alistair picture-free page.



It must.

[tuppence95]

Yankee23 wrote...

tuppence95 wrote...

TJPags wrote...

@Merilsell  . .   As if I needed another reason to hate him . . . .

That was sooooooo wrong . . . .

Oh, but it's wrong from all sides!  You think Alistair-girls like that picture?  But it is pretty funny.  

Oh Tuppence, you know we do in our own twisted way.

Well ... yeah, but Hairy-stair is a bit much.  


*edited to add - TJPags, who is your favorite character?

Modifié par tuppence95, 08 novembre 2010 - 02:37 .

[metalcraze33]

tuppence we have been debating for a while now...and I have been in the discussion the whole time

[TJPags]

tuppence95 wrote...

Yankee23 wrote...

tuppence95 wrote...

TJPags wrote...

@Merilsell  . .   As if I needed another reason to hate him . . . .

That was sooooooo wrong . . . .

Oh, but it's wrong from all sides!  You think Alistair-girls like that picture?  But it is pretty funny.  

Oh Tuppence, you know we do in our own twisted way.

Well ... yeah, but Hairy-stair is a bit much.  


*edited to add - TJPags, who is your favorite character?

Hmmm, not sure.  I think it may actually be Sten.  Highly useful in combat, and I find him a pretty deep character.

I do also like Morrigan - simply because she seems so honest to me - she's selfish, and doesn't try to hide or surgarcoat that.

[metalcraze33]

tuppence95 wrote...

metalcraze33 wrote...

All discussions are really based on personal preference there are no hard facts that make him likable or not likable to everyone.

They did correct you on several things that are canon in the game.  But you are right.  Much of it is personal preference, so you should try to take part in the discussion.  There's been some very interesting things talked about.  But changing the subject each time things get interesting, isn't really taking part in the debate. 

really what exactly did they correct me on that was canon in the game? pretty much all of it was perspective.

[tuppence95]

TJPags wrote...

tuppence95 wrote...


*edited to add - TJPags, who is your favorite character?

Hmmm, not sure.  I think it may actually be Sten.  Highly useful in combat, and I find him a pretty deep character.

I do also like Morrigan - simply because she seems so honest to me - she's selfish, and doesn't try to hide or surgarcoat that.

Hmm ... I don' t have any crazy Sten pictures to conteract that Alistair ones for you.  And if I post any weird Morri pics, KoP will unleash his wrath on me.    So I'd better  not chance it.

I guess you'll have to settle for knowing that those Alistair pics hurt us just as much as they hurt you.  

[Skadi_the_Evil_Elf]

I sensed it even as I showered upstairs. The call for His Beardalicious Greatness has fallen upon my ears. Ask and ye shall recieve:







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Now let us have a moment of silence as we look upon complete cosmic perfection.

[metalcraze33]

*curls up in corner and whimpers*

[TJPags]

tuppence95 wrote...

TJPags wrote...

tuppence95 wrote...


*edited to add - TJPags, who is your favorite character?

Hmmm, not sure.  I think it may actually be Sten.  Highly useful in combat, and I find him a pretty deep character.

I do also like Morrigan - simply because she seems so honest to me - she's selfish, and doesn't try to hide or surgarcoat that.

Hmm ... I don' t have any crazy Sten pictures to conteract that Alistair ones for you.  And if I post any weird Morri pics, KoP will unleash his wrath on me.    So I'd better  not chance it.

I guess you'll have to settle for knowing that those Alistair pics hurt us just as much as they hurt you.  

Oh, trust me - they hurt me a LOT more!!!!  

I do have the Sten thread, though . . .  .some good pics in there . . . .

*edit - this is TJPags' therapist.  He will be unable to participate in this thread any further.  He has hysterical blindness . . . . 

Modifié par TJPags, 08 novembre 2010 - 02:50 .

[Merilsell]

*high five* ...or in other words:

[metalcraze33]

hey at least we know what alistair looked like after he became a drunk and got a beer gut

[Skadi_the_Evil_Elf]

metalcraze33 wrote...

hey at least we know what alistair looked like after he became a drunk and got a beer gut

Of course we do.

He became the Paragon of Supreme and Cosmic WIN.

[metalcraze33]

nah Zevran is the paragon of cosmic win

[tuppence95]

metalcraze33 wrote...

tuppence95 wrote...

metalcraze33 wrote...

All discussions are really based on personal preference there are no hard facts that make him likable or not likable to everyone.

They did correct you on several things that are canon in the game.  But you are right.  Much of it is personal preference, so you should try to take part in the discussion.  There's been some very interesting things talked about.  But changing the subject each time things get interesting, isn't really taking part in the debate. 

really what exactly did they correct me on that was canon in the game? pretty much all of it was perspective.

Aw, gee, metalcraze.  I just read through all the pages of this thread again before I started posting tonight.  Don't make me go through it again.  There's one correction on page 17.  That's not about a canon issue, but it was definitely not personal preference.

It doesn't really matter.  I'm just suggesting that you actually take part in the debates, rather than asking a new question whenever the discussion starts getting interesting.  Yes, you've been here the whole time, and you started the topic, but if you read through the pages, you haven't really taken part in a back and forth discussion.

[rak72]

Ahhh - Mooooobistair - sweet