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[Zjarcal]

Shavon wrote...

As far as romance,Alistair is fairly sweet and adorable. But yeah, if any male LI of a Bioware game whines, it's not Carth, it's certainly not Kaidan or Anomen. It is Alistair. My problem with him is hpw spineless he can be. I love how this game allows the PC to help give him a decent backbone. . . .

Hey shavvy! Strange to see you here... 

I haven't played any of the games with the character you mentioned so I can't make a fair comparison. I won't say he's spineless since I promised another user here I wouldn't say that again (*winks at errant_knight*), but the hardening option is certainly good for him (for the most part).

[Sarah1281]

KnightofPhoenix wrote...

Sarah1281 wrote...

KnightofPhoenix wrote...
Just like him being so opposed to sparing Loghain was not really, the way I saw it, a question of morality, but it's rather about sparing the man he believes killed Duncan (and this is apparent when he says things like "Forget Maric, this is for Duncan").

See, that's exactly why i wish that they would have stuck with Alistair's initial 'I'm as surprised as you are' line instead. While his prompt execution of Loghain afterwards is still just that, it makes it seem more like he's enacting justice (even if i disagree) than vengeance which is what the in-game line does.

I don't wish that, because I precisely don't think it's his character and I think the in-game line fits more with what he is.
I don't have a problem with the scene. What I do have a problem with is Alistair's irrational and immature albeit understandable attitude in that scene.

I know it's in-character for Alistair to do what he does but I think the other line is also in-character and had he chosen to keep the fact that he was interested in vengeance a bit quieter (and he was even getting the chance to get that vengeance) I would feel better about allowing him to do it.

[Sarah1281]

metalcraze33 wrote...

On a side note I would like an option to have Zevran assassinate anora after you marry her because she's annoying

My take on that is that Anora would find out and have the HNM killed first. I tend to see her as more competent than some people do, though, and think Erlina is probably a bard.

[metalcraze33]

My HN is way to calculating for her to one up him like that

[ejoslin]

metalcraze33 wrote...

On a side note I would like an option to have Zevran assassinate anora after you marry her because she's annoying

Who says you don't?  Once you get to the end of the game, you can write your own ending the way you see fit.  He does offer it, in a certain circumstance, though in a kidding manner.  Video here! (warning Zevran fans, it's a breakup).  It IS Alistair, but he says pretty much the same thing to a HNM who's marrying Anora.

Modifié par ejoslin, 06 novembre 2010 - 01:26 .

[KnightofPhoenix]

Sarah1281 wrote...
I know it's in-character for Alistair to do what he does but I think the other line is also in-character and had he chosen to keep the fact that he was interested in vengeance a bit quieter (and he was even getting the chance to get that vengeance) I would feel better about allowing him to do it.

Well you are talking about the guy who said he doesn't want to be king, but declares his desire to rule an entire nation anyways just to kill Loghain. Definately not a smart or rational thing to say (it made me chuckle in real life), but he said it anyways. So I personally believe that he wouldn't make an effort to make it sound less about vengeance tbh, I'd think he is too much into it to sound rational. 

Modifié par KnightofPhoenix, 06 novembre 2010 - 01:25 .

[metalcraze33]

Omg Zevran breakups are so sad

[ejoslin]

metalcraze33 wrote...

Omg Zevran breakups are so sad

Here is the worst of the Zevran breakups.  

Edit: This is the worst breakup in the game, really.  You don't have to like Zevran to realize just how horrible this one is.  Yeh, I reloaded after frapping all of the breakups  I still need to get one more.  But ugh.  That one may be a little worse than this one thinking about it...

Modifié par ejoslin, 06 novembre 2010 - 01:30 .

[Lord_Anthonior]

metalcraze33 wrote...

On a side note I would like an option to have Zevran assassinate anora after you marry her because she's annoying

Where would the world be now if we kill or send someone to be killed just for being annoying? hahaha. Though I do understand but better to have more powerful reasons to send someone to be killed than just for being annoying even when that one could be on the list for reasons, "Nothing is business is just personal" .

[metalcraze33]

Lord_Anthonior wrote...

metalcraze33 wrote...

On a side note I would like an option to have Zevran assassinate anora after you marry her because she's annoying

Where would the world be now if we kill or send someone to be killed just for being annoying? hahaha. Though I do understand but better to have more powerful reasons to send someone to be killed than just for being annoying even when that one could be on the list for reasons, "Nothing is business is just personal" .

that is the fun of rpg games you can loose the inner pyschopath as you never would in real life lol

[Zjarcal]

ejoslin wrote...

metalcraze33 wrote...

Omg Zevran breakups are so sad

Here is the worst of the Zevran breakups.  

Edit: This is the worst breakup in the game, really.  You don't have to like Zevran to realize just how horrible this one is.  Yeh, I reloaded after frapping all of the breakups  I still need to get one more.  But ugh.  That one may be a little worse than this one thinking about it...

He does seem to hide his sadness quite well in that one though. I found it surprising how sad he seems when you break up with him after a one night stand.

[metalcraze33]

isn't there one where Zev says you make him want to vomit?

[Merilsell]

Oooooh *bounce excitingly * An Alistair HATE thread. It's been TOO long, really *sniff* So wait...let me grab my popcorn and go through the whole thing for a good lulz. Ah this brings back memories.

Anyone here, who wants some popcorn as well? It's yummy,

[Sarah1281]

metalcraze33 wrote...

isn't there one where Zev says you make him want to vomit?

I believe that happens if you get his approval to -100.

[ejoslin]

Zjarcal wrote...

ejoslin wrote...

metalcraze33 wrote...

Omg Zevran breakups are so sad

Here is the worst of the Zevran breakups.  

Edit: This is the worst breakup in the game, really.  You don't have to like Zevran to realize just how horrible this one is.  Yeh, I reloaded after frapping all of the breakups  I still need to get one more.  But ugh.  That one may be a little worse than this one thinking about it...

He does seem to hide his sadness quite well in that one though. I found it surprising how sad he seems when you break up with him after a one night stand.

He's devastated and trying to hide it -- but he's also the one breaking it off (no more casual with the warden).  It's one of the few instances where you get a "still in love" flag with him which means if there's a romance starting line left, you can restart the romance.

[metalcraze33]

shale punks alistair

[ejoslin]

Sarah1281 wrote...

metalcraze33 wrote...

isn't there one where Zev says you make him want to vomit?

I believe that happens if you get his approval to -100.

That one is HERE!  And it's only at -26 hostile when in a relationship with him.

[Lord_Anthonior]

Merilsell wrote...

Oooooh *bounce excitingly * An Alistair HATE thread. It's been TOO long, really *sniff* So wait...let me grab my popcorn and go through the whole thing for a good lulz. Ah this brings back memories.
Anyone here, who wants some popcorn as well? It's yummy,

Yeeey!! I want pop corn too please please

Memories??! so there have been other hate threads before this one??? lol, if so why I'm I not surprised?? this character does have a knack for having these threads then.

Modifié par Lord_Anthonior, 06 novembre 2010 - 01:54 .

[KnightofPhoenix]

Lord_Anthonior wrote...
Memories??! so there have been other hate threads before this one??? lol, if so why I'm I not surprised?? this character does have a knack for having this threads then.

Not as much as Loghain, let me tell you.
But they tend to overlap almost always.

In fact, I expect some Loghain debate to pop up here at any moment.

Modifié par KnightofPhoenix, 06 novembre 2010 - 01:53 .

[metalcraze33]

Plus i hate alistair's hair it looks brown in my game and it's a bad haircut I modded him to look prettier so at least I can stand him at a distance and wth is everyone is this game so wrinkly?

Modifié par metalcraze33, 06 novembre 2010 - 01:55 .

[Zjarcal]

ejoslin wrote...

Zjarcal wrote...

ejoslin wrote...

metalcraze33 wrote...

Omg Zevran breakups are so sad

Here is the worst of the Zevran breakups.  

Edit: This is the worst breakup in the game, really.  You don't have to like Zevran to realize just how horrible this one is.  Yeh, I reloaded after frapping all of the breakups  I still need to get one more.  But ugh.  That one may be a little worse than this one thinking about it...

He does seem to hide his sadness quite well in that one though. I found it surprising how sad he seems when you break up with him after a one night stand.

He's devastated and trying to hide it -- but he's also the one breaking it off (no more casual with the warden).  It's one of the few instances where you get a "still in love" flag with him which means if there's a romance starting line left, you can restart the romance.

Oh, don't get me wrong, it was sad to watch. But he does hide it fairly well.

I didn't know Zev also had a "still in love" flag. Do all the LIs have them?

[metalcraze33]

hmm loghain is the uglist character in the game wish i could find a mod for his face didn't like the ones I found

[KnightofPhoenix]

metalcraze33 wrote...

Plus i hate alistair's hair it looks brown in my game and it's a bad haircut I modded him to look prettier so at least I can stand him at a distance and wth is everyone is this game so wrinkly?

I would agree with you, but one of the game's most awesome characters has the same hair.

Modifié par KnightofPhoenix, 06 novembre 2010 - 01:58 .

[ejoslin]

 Consider THIS a warning.  If it goes to a Loghain hate thread, I next post the sex scenes...

[Zjarcal]

KnightofPhoenix wrote...

metalcraze33 wrote...

Plus i hate alistair's hair it looks brown in my game and it's a bad haircut I modded him to look prettier so at least I can stand him at a distance and wth is everyone is this game so wrinkly?

I would agree with you, but one of the game's most awesome characters has the same hair.

*snipped Bhelen*

So does Cammen...