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[upsettingshorts]

Varric is a breast dwarf. He is exaggerating everyone's cup size. Perfect argument!

[Saibh]

Upsettingshorts wrote...

Varric is a breast dwarf. He is exaggerating everyone's cup size. Perfect argument!

Actually, when we first noticed Bethany's, er, proportions, some of us thought that was the case; it might be a sort of meta joke, since the screenshot wasn't in context with anything and we'd only ever heard about the exaggerated part.

[upsettingshorts]

Who says he stops exaggerating entirely at any point? 

Unreliable narrators can explain a lot.

Okay okay, if another narrator takes over then the argument is shot but hey, I enjoyed making it.

Modifié par Upsettingshorts, 06 novembre 2010 - 12:56 .

[In Exile]

Saibh wrote...
Facial features are up to character customization. You want an ugly character? Make an ugly character. I wouldn't really have a problem if there were a variety of bodies in Thedas. There are not. Ugly people are not going to be uncommon, nor are plain people.

Except that you're explicitly described as attractive in-game. At least in ME2 or DA:O.

[jbell2825]

Saibh wrote...

jbell2825 wrote...

Why stop at body size? In order to be fair shouldnt we want the characters to be average looking at best? Maybe a few ugly ones as well? None of them should be beautiful. Little acne, some bad hair cuts, or bad teeth too?

Funny you should mention teeth...anyway.

Facial features are up to character customization. You want an ugly character? Make an ugly character. I wouldn't really have a problem if there were a variety of bodies in Thedas. There are not. Ugly people are not going to be uncommon, nor are plain people.

I was thinking more along the lines of possible romance interests, other NPCs.  After all this discussion did start with a NPC character.

[upsettingshorts]

In Exile wrote...
Except that you're explicitly described as attractive in-game. At least in ME2 or DA:O.

The NPCs saying that could simply have bad unique taste.  Ugly Shepard has to appeal to someone right?  Right?!  Poor Ugly Shepard...

[Gavinthelocust]

Upsettingshorts wrote...

In Exile wrote...
Except that you're explicitly described as attractive in-game. At least in ME2 or DA:O.

The NPCs saying that could simply have bad unique taste.  Ugly Shepard has to appeal to someone right?  Right?!  Poor Ugly Shepard...

How can you not love that face?

[g-vapen]

Heh. Morrigan always called the male Warden "handsome boy" even if he had a face only a broodmother could love.

[ENolan]

Saibh wrote...

Upsettingshorts wrote...

Varric is a breast dwarf. He is exaggerating everyone's cup size. Perfect argument!

Actually, when we first noticed Bethany's, er, proportions, some of us thought that was the case; it might be a sort of meta joke, since the screenshot wasn't in context with anything and we'd only ever heard about the exaggerated part.

So at this point, is it fair to assume she won't always look like that?<_<

[jbell2825]

The Director wrote...

Saibh wrote...

Upsettingshorts wrote...

Varric is a breast dwarf. He is exaggerating everyone's cup size. Perfect argument!

Actually, when we first noticed Bethany's, er, proportions, some of us thought that was the case; it might be a sort of meta joke, since the screenshot wasn't in context with anything and we'd only ever heard about the exaggerated part.

So at this point, is it fair to assume she won't always look like that?<_<

Dont worry, if you have a PC the mods will take care of that

[ENolan]

jbell2825 wrote...

The Director wrote...

Saibh wrote...

Upsettingshorts wrote...

Varric is a breast dwarf. He is exaggerating everyone's cup size. Perfect argument!

Actually, when we first noticed Bethany's, er, proportions, some of us thought that was the case; it might be a sort of meta joke, since the screenshot wasn't in context with anything and we'd only ever heard about the exaggerated part.

So at this point, is it fair to assume she won't always look like that?<_<

Dont worry, if you have a PC the mods will take care of that

Oh! I HAVE A PC!!!

Oh wait... I have DA2 set for PS3.

Nah... I couldn't care how my game-sister looks to be honest.

[Ryzaki]

The Director wrote...

jbell2825 wrote...

The Director wrote...

Saibh wrote...

Upsettingshorts wrote...

Varric is a breast dwarf. He is exaggerating everyone's cup size. Perfect argument!

Actually, when we first noticed Bethany's, er, proportions, some of us thought that was the case; it might be a sort of meta joke, since the screenshot wasn't in context with anything and we'd only ever heard about the exaggerated part.

So at this point, is it fair to assume she won't always look like that?<_<

Dont worry, if you have a PC the mods will take care of that

Oh! I HAVE A PC!!!

Oh wait... I have DA2 set for PS3.

Nah... I couldn't care how my game-sister looks to be honest.

Yeah...part of the problem is that that might be the default mesh for females. Very...um...top heavy.

[Saibh]

In Exile wrote...

Except that you're explicitly described as attractive in-game. At least in ME2 or DA:O.

I forgot about that. Yeah. That was pretty damn weird. (But hilarious, so I couldn't help but like it.)

Also, I think the only people who call Shep pretty in ME2 are love interests (who are required to find you attractive) and a batarian. That last one is almost insulting.

jbell2825 wrote...

I was thinking more along the lines of possible romance interests, other NPCs.  After all this discussion did start with a NPC character.

It's not really about Isabela's model or Bethany's model particularly. It's the issue that every female might (probably will) have that model, and especially that your Hawke does, too.

Also, what defines "beauty" is strongly debated when it comes to Isabela.

Modifié par Saibh, 06 novembre 2010 - 01:21 .

[upsettingshorts]

It's also part of the user agreement that when you sign up for Bioware Social Network you have to participate in a forum debate about boobs at least once per fortnight or lose your posting privileges.

[ChickenDownUnder]

I get the impression that all the females having big breasts and males with hulk-like proportions didn't really have anything to do with the devs wanting every character to be... uh... ****, forgot the English word for it, for now I'll go with "1980's stereotypical fantasy builds". But anyways, it comes across more as just not being arsed enough/too low of a budget to create extra models for all the various body types.

Upsettingshorts wrote...

It's also part of the user agreement that when you sign up for Bioware Social Network you have to participate in a forum debate about boobs at least once per fortnight or lose your posting privileges.

Suddenly so much is now explained.

[Bruddajakka]

Didn't people really really complain about the female character proportions in DAO as well?

[Mecha Tengu]

Bruddajakka wrote...

Didn't people really really complain about the female character proportions in DAO as well?

bawwwww, lets just change everything into a generic blob so it doesn't offend anyone.

Modifié par Mecha Tengu, 06 novembre 2010 - 02:05 .

[mav805]

Actually, I think that Isabella and others look much more realistic than they did in say DA:O. In Origins, there were a couple of watermelons strapped to a 12 year old boys body. In DA2, while they're obviously still top heavy, the women appear much more physically balanced and have what really just amounts to a nice body. A flat stomach, a little muscle (look at them deltoids), more femine hips and nice legs.



Its funny, I continue to see others say that is not how an average woman looks. No doubt. These aren't average woman though, they're top tier warriors that spend all day running...or swinging weapons around, and I don't think the models are too outlandish for a physical and no doubt athletically inclined woman.



I concede about the boobs though, they are a bit much

[Addai]

Bruddajakka wrote...

Didn't people really really complain about the female character proportions in DAO as well?

If there were people complaining that the boobs needed to be ratcheted up to J Extra Perky, they were keeping fairly quiet.  Otherwise it was complaints about them being too big.  Also that the shoulders were wide and the hands enormous.  My personal beef was mostly with scrawny elf arms and butts.

Somehow, a modder managed to fix the latter problems while keeping proportions that you might actually encounter in a real human being.

Modifié par Addai67, 06 novembre 2010 - 02:16 .

[ErichHartmann]

DAO chest proportions with a nudity mod look normal to me (no comment on males down below though. ).

[thegoldfinch]

Addai67 wrote...

Bruddajakka wrote...

Didn't people really really complain about the female character proportions in DAO as well?

If there were people complaining that the boobs needed to be ratcheted up to J Extra Perky, they were keeping fairly quiet.  Otherwise it was complaints about them being too big.  Also that the shoulders were wide and the hands enormous.  My personal beef was mostly with scrawny elf arms and butts.

Somehow, a modder managed to fix the latter problems while keeping proportions that you might actually encounter in a real human being.

I rationalized the scrawniness to being perpetually two tip-toes away from starvation, whether from hiking all day through the wildnerness, scraping for dinner in the Alienage, or as a Warden who is apparently hungry all the time, every time.

The creepy spider hands were not cool though.

This is going to sound like the stupidest thing, but huge breasts in games bother me because I definitely don't have the kind of knockers that, say, Beth was rocking. Am I jealous? Nah, I don't envy her back problems. The problem I have is that it makes me feel left out. Tacking on d-cups to people who seemingly work out most of their lives not only feels slightly far fetched from a logical standpoint, but it also kind of makes me feel left out as far as what is accepted as "pretty".

It's dumb, but there you go. I have hopes that these apparent options in body shape we have can allow for tinier people to have tinier characters. Maybe I'm totally shallow, but that was the main reason I initially chose to play as an elf my first go around with DA:O.

Awwright. My BioWare forum boob contemplation for the evening? Check. I feel all warm and tingly with success on the inside.

[ENolan]

Ryzaki wrote...

The Director wrote...

jbell2825 wrote...

The Director wrote...

Saibh wrote...

Upsettingshorts wrote...

Varric is a breast dwarf. He is exaggerating everyone's cup size. Perfect argument!

Actually, when we first noticed Bethany's, er, proportions, some of us thought that was the case; it might be a sort of meta joke, since the screenshot wasn't in context with anything and we'd only ever heard about the exaggerated part.

So at this point, is it fair to assume she won't always look like that?<_<

Dont worry, if you have a PC the mods will take care of that

Oh! I HAVE A PC!!!

Oh wait... I have DA2 set for PS3.

Nah... I couldn't care how my game-sister looks to be honest.

Yeah...part of the problem is that that might be the default mesh for females. Very...um...top heavy.

I'm thinking I pulled out of the thread at the perfect time before I accidentally stated my opinion on that particular statement...

[Mecha Tengu]

pixieface wrote...

Addai67 wrote...

Bruddajakka wrote...

Didn't people really really complain about the female character proportions in DAO as well?

If there were people complaining that the boobs needed to be ratcheted up to J Extra Perky, they were keeping fairly quiet.  Otherwise it was complaints about them being too big.  Also that the shoulders were wide and the hands enormous.  My personal beef was mostly with scrawny elf arms and butts.

Somehow, a modder managed to fix the latter problems while keeping proportions that you might actually encounter in a real human being.

This is going to sound like the stupidest thing, but huge breasts in games bother me because I definitely don't have the kind of knockers that, say, Beth was rocking. Am I jealous? Nah, I don't envy her back problems. The problem I have is that it makes me feel left out. Tacking on d-cups to people who seemingly work out most of their lives not only feels slightly far fetched from a logical standpoint, but it also kind of makes me feel left out as far as what is accepted as "pretty".

.

I think you have been the most honest female gamer so far. While the rest have been moaning all over sexism and exploitation, you finally come out and say the truth (and I suspected this reason anyway but was too afraid to say it under fear of being eaten alive by angry female gamers) 

[tmp7704]

ErichHartmann wrote...

DAO chest proportions with a nudity mod look normal to me (no comment on males down below though. ).

The nude mods for DAO come with options that run full gamut from a-cup to "are you kidding"

[Ryzaki]

Mecha Tengu wrote...


I think you have been the most honest female gamer so far. While the rest have been moaning all over sexism and exploitation, you finally come out and say the truth (and I suspected this reason anyway but was too afraid to say it under fear of being eaten alive by angry female gamers) 

Right because you magically know every single female gamer's breast size.