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[Addai]

SithLordExarKun wrote...

Addai67 wrote...

Not gonna explain for the 100th time that 20-inch biceps would actually help a warrior-type PC do what they're supposed to do in a game, but a Double J bust hinders. Ok, I guess I just explained it, for the 101th time.

You DO know that 20 inch biceps is relatively useless in a fight due to how large it actually is thus restricting your movement and agility? Why is it that the vast majority of MMA fighters, or muay thai boxers try to stay lean and not too muscular like the worlds top bodybuilders?

Hell search up greg kovacs, the guy was so large and muscular he couldn't even wipe his ass, what makes you think his biceps will aid him in a fight?

Ok, show us the screenshot of Hawke which resembles that guy.

[SithLordExarKun]

Addai67 wrote...

SithLordExarKun wrote...

Addai67 wrote...

Not gonna explain for the 100th time that 20-inch biceps would actually help a warrior-type PC do what they're supposed to do in a game, but a Double J bust hinders. Ok, I guess I just explained it, for the 101th time.

You DO know that 20 inch biceps is relatively useless in a fight due to how large it actually is thus restricting your movement and agility? Why is it that the vast majority of MMA fighters, or muay thai boxers try to stay lean and not too muscular like the worlds top bodybuilders?

Hell search up greg kovacs, the guy was so large and muscular he couldn't even wipe his ass, what makes you think his biceps will aid him in a fight?

Ok, show us the screenshot of Hawke which resembles that guy.

Where did i say Hawke resembled Greg Kovacs? I was just arguing how having bodybuilder like arms don't aid you in a fight because it restricts your movement too much. Hell my personal trainer has 18 inch biceps and even he said that because of his size he wouldn't be able to fight as effectively as someone much smaller than him(think someone with a bruce lee body).

Hawke DOES have very large arms, not freakishly huge, not cartoonishly large but judging the width of his shoulders and muscularity, he looks like a bodybuilder, hell the average joe in DAO already had a bodybuilder like physique. Maybe not 20 inch biceps but at the very minimum 17-18 inch arms which is impossible to achieve at that era. Then again this is a fantasy. You want to argue that the bust size of lady hawke is unrealistic go ahead, but don't ignore and dismiss male hawkes muscularity for that age.

BTW, comparison pics were posted in a previous thread before it got locked.

Modifié par SithLordExarKun, 08 novembre 2010 - 09:23 .

[Zep Rowsdower]

SithLordExarKun wrote...

Hawke DOES have very large arms, not freakishly huge, not cartoonishly large but judging the width of his shoulders and muscularity, he looks like a bodybuilder

yeah i mean look at this guy, he's enormous



man how can he move with all that muscle in the way

edit: we put our faith in Blast Hawkecheese

Modifié par Zep Rowsdower, 08 novembre 2010 - 12:35 .

[SithLordExarKun]

Zep Rowsdower wrote...

SithLordExarKun wrote...

Hawke DOES have very large arms, not freakishly huge, not cartoonishly large but judging the width of his shoulders and muscularity, he looks like a bodybuilder

yeah i mean look at this guy, he's enormous



man how can he move with all that muscle in the way

edit: we put our faith in Blast Hawkecheese

Yes, take a screenshot of hawke having his arms covered up :innocent: instead of posting the pictures where he DOES flaunt his massive arms.

http://www.gamersplu...da203_35861.jpg
http://www.gamersplu...da205_35863.jpg


Epic fail.

[upsettingshorts]

He looks like he has the build of a modern middle linebacker. Not some Mr. Universe contestant.

[Zep Rowsdower]

SithLordExarKun wrote...
 Yes, take a screenshot of hawke having his arms covered up :innocent: instead of posting the pictures where he DOES flaunt his massive arms.

http://www.gamersplu...da203_35861.jpg
http://www.gamersplu...da205_35863.jpg


Epic fail.

1: having something over his arms wouldn't make them smaller
2: aren't those from a much earlier build? like one of the first few screenshots that ever got released?
3: ahahaha you actually said "epic fail"
4: you are so dumb

edit: Gristle McHawkebody

Modifié par Zep Rowsdower, 08 novembre 2010 - 01:18 .

[thegoldfinch]

I'll just say that my boyfriend's father has Hawke's exact same muscular figure while being a 50 year old man and he doesn't lift weights.

He raises chickens and cows, works on the home's landscaping in the front and back yards, chases away little varmints side by side with the family dog, grows food for the family, harvests that food, and then cooks it for the family. If you live in a farm town like Lothering and do the kinds of things my boyfriend's dad does every day, it stands to reason that you would either be lean or buff, because all you ever do is work and eat. And some days, he refuses to eat so that his children can instead. He is probably the baddest dude I've ever met.

Hawke's figure makes more than enough sense to me.

Modifié par pixieface, 08 novembre 2010 - 01:17 .

[Saibh]

SithLordExarKun wrote...

Did you see the "s" behind the word "individual"?. Its plural, i am not going to name every single person who was moaning and b!tching about this because its unnecessary.

And yet, when you spoke to me earlier, you said only one person was the cause of this.

SithLordExarKun wrote...

 You're assuming i'm referring to you, i'm not. Infact the individual i
happened to be referring to is a male and has incredibly irrational
reasoning.

I'm not defending the large bust decision, to be
honest i don't care what they do with the male or female models, but
what DOES make me question myself is how some irrational certain posters
 are.

I have no idea why you think I forgot this.

And I'm glad people have brought up--since you didn't answer me before--that Hawke doesn't have twenty-inch biceps. He is still unfairly idealized, but, then, other people pointed out to you why the argument is not the same, for many different reasons.

And, the ultimate point is that this thread is about female models, not the male ones. If you think the male models are a big enough issue, make your own thread. I won't post in in it, but you're free to.

Modifié par Saibh, 08 novembre 2010 - 01:25 .

[SithLordExarKun]

Zep Rowsdower wrote...


1: having something over his arms wouldn't make them smaller

Yes it would, ask a bodybuilder to wear a jacket and they look much smaller

Zep Rowsdower wrote...

2: aren't those from a much earlier build? like one of the first few screenshots that ever got released?

Yes, but look at the recent trailer or even the CGI trailer, still the same level of muscularity.

Zep Rowsdower wrote...
3: ahahaha you actually said "epic fail"

Which perfectly represents you

Zep Rowsdower wrote...
4: you are so dumb

No you.

Upsettingshorts wrote...

He looks like he has the build of
a modern middle linebacker. Not some Mr. Universe contestant.

The Mr Universe contestants during the 70's and 80's weren't as massive
as todays bodybuilders or the bodybuilders in the  Mr olympia. Frank
Zane, 3 time Mr olympia  shows less muscularity than hawke.

[Ziggeh]

Saibh wrote...

And I'm glad people have brought up--since you didn't answer me before--that Hawke doesn't have twenty-inch biceps. He is still unfairly idealized, but, then, other people pointed out to you why the argument is not the same, for many different reasons.

And, the ultimate point is that this thread is about female models, not the male ones. If you think the male models are a big enough issue, make your own thread. I won't post in in it, but you're free to.

It's quite an impressive piece of straw manning though.

[Zep Rowsdower]

Saibh wrote...

And, the ultimate point is that this thread is about female models, not the male ones. If you think the male models are a big enough issue, make your own thread. I won't post in in it, but you're free to.

but you don't understand

we're not allowed not to talk about men for even five minutes

what about the men

what about their problems

Upsettingshorts wrote...

He looks like he has the build of a modern middle linebacker. Not some Mr. Universe contestant.

Hawke according to SithLordWhatsHisButt:



edit: Punt Hawkechunk

Modifié par Zep Rowsdower, 08 novembre 2010 - 01:36 .

[upsettingshorts]

Yep, the best part of the argument is it's totally irrelevant. The double standard is valid.

[SithLordExarKun]

Zep Rowsdower wrote...


Hawke according to SithLordWhatsHisButt:



edit: Punt Hawkechunk

Wow i guess you're succesful at being a moron grossly exaggerating my claims. So i guess hawke isn't muscular at all, not even the slightest bit of muscle, how wrong could i have been?? My god Zep Rowsdower has shown me how wrong i am!!

[Zep Rowsdower]

SithLordExarKun wrote...

Wow i guess you're succesful at being a moron grossly exaggerating my claims. So i guess hawke isn't muscular at all, not even the slightest bit of muscle, how wrong could i have been?? My god Zep Rowsdower has shown me how wrong i am!!

yeah i am an awesome debater

like you can't even handle this

edit: Slab Hawkethrust

Modifié par Zep Rowsdower, 08 novembre 2010 - 01:45 .

[upsettingshorts]

Zep Rowsdower wrote...

pfft whatever man you're just in awe of my awesome debating techniques

you can't handle this

If you keep this up I'm gonna make you drink something other than beer !

(reference for uncool people)

Modifié par Upsettingshorts, 08 novembre 2010 - 01:47 .

[SithLordExarKun]

Saibh wrote...



And yet, when you spoke to me earlier, you said only one person was the cause of this.

Hm, probably i forgot about it, but to be civil, thanks for pointing it out. But the thing is, if it isn't you, why do you care so much?

Saibh wrote...
And I'm glad people have brought up--since you didn't answer me before--that Hawke doesn't have twenty-inch biceps. He is still unfairly idealized, but, then, other people pointed out to you why the argument is not the same, for many different reasons.

Nobody brought up that Hawke DOESN'T have 20 inch biceps, infact many argued that its realistically possible to have such large arms and how it is a massive advantage in the fight. Besides, as i've said in an earlier post(which you refuse to read) that ok, maybe 20 inch biceps for hawke is a little too large but the fact remains that his arms are still within the bodybuilders range of 17-18 inchs which is still rather massive.

Then again, I'm not the one who started this whole argument, i was responding to another poster about how i think some posters and the said certain individual are incredibly irrational with their arguments and justifications by bringing up the said justification of the male bodies, i didn't expect this to turn into an ugly argument that involved so many people.

Saibh wrote...
And, the ultimate point is that this thread is about female models, not the male ones. If you think the male models are a big enough issue, make your own thread. I won't post in in it, but you're free to.

See the above, now im getting outright insulted.

[Ziggy]

I think male Hawke looks pretty much as you'd expect a guy who frequently waves around a massively oversized sword to look.



Isn't this thread supposed to be about female body models though?

[Zep Rowsdower]

Upsettingshorts wrote...

If you keep this up I'm gonna make you drink something other than beer !

(reference for uncool people)

oh no

ROWSDOWER MOBILE! AWAAAAYYY

also nooo don't quote my unedited posts

Em23 wrote...

Isn't this thread supposed to be about female body models though?

BUT WHAT ABOUT THE MEN

edit: Stump Hawkeknob

Modifié par Zep Rowsdower, 08 novembre 2010 - 01:50 .

[upsettingshorts]

Zep Rowsdower wrote...

also nooo don't quote my unedited posts

Tell that to my acid-wash jeans.

[SithLordExarKun]

pixieface wrote...

I'll just say that my boyfriend's father has Hawke's exact same muscular figure while being a 50 year old man and he doesn't lift weights.

He raises chickens and cows, works on the home's landscaping in the front and back yards, chases away little varmints side by side with the family dog, grows food for the family, harvests that food, and then cooks it for the family. If you live in a farm town like Lothering and do the kinds of things my boyfriend's dad does every day, it stands to reason that you would either be lean or buff, because all you ever do is work and eat. And some days, he refuses to eat so that his children can instead. He is probably the baddest dude I've ever met.

Hawke's figure makes more than enough sense to me.

Firstly, assuming you even know what a really muscular individual is, it is impossible to achieve that level of muscularity without resistance training, especially with builds like Male Hawkes who will sport the round and full muscle bellies without his armor on.

There is no way for even the most genetically gifted individuals on earth to achieve such muscularity without some form of resistance training. Hawkes physique is comparable to the bodybuilders in the Mr universe in the 70's, there is no way your boyfriends father has that level of muscularity with such low bodyfat levels without any training at all and adding to that, the sentance i highlighted from your post makes absolutely no sense at all. You don't get as large and shredded as a bodybuilder by "living in a farm working and eating".

[SithLordExarKun]

Zep Rowsdower wrote...

SithLordExarKun wrote...

Wow i guess you're succesful at being a moron grossly exaggerating my claims. So i guess hawke isn't muscular at all, not even the slightest bit of muscle, how wrong could i have been?? My god Zep Rowsdower has shown me how wrong i am!!

yeah i am an awesome debater

like you can't even handle this

edit: Slab Hawkethrust

Yep, an awesome debater indeed.

Modifié par SithLordExarKun, 08 novembre 2010 - 01:54 .

[SithLordExarKun]

Em23 wrote...

I think male Hawke looks pretty much as you'd expect a guy who frequently waves around a massively oversized sword to look.

Isn't this thread supposed to be about female body models though?

Oh it is, but all i did was respond to a poster about how irrational some posters are in their justifications by bringing up said examples which then led to a group of posters trying to challenge it thus this whole thing gets derailed.

[Zep Rowsdower]

SithLordExarKun wrote...

Yep, an awesome debater indeed.

why'd you take out the part about my one-digit iq

it was pretty accurate

if that one digit was infinity

edit: Bolt VanderHawke

Modifié par Zep Rowsdower, 08 novembre 2010 - 01:58 .

[Ziggeh]

SithLordExarKun wrote...
Oh it is, but all i did was respond to a poster about how irrational some posters are in their justifications by bringing up said examples which then led to a group of posters trying to challenge it thus this whole thing gets derailed.

A response in which you missed the point of the argument made. The fact that it's perception rather than fact that vast "guns" would increase ones fighting prowess is fairly irrelevant to thepoint they were making in outlining the difference in standard.

Which was entirely rational. In case that wasn't clear.

Modifié par ziggehunderslash, 08 novembre 2010 - 02:08 .

[ejoslin]

SithLordExarKun wrote...

pixieface wrote...

I'll just say that my boyfriend's father has Hawke's exact same muscular figure while being a 50 year old man and he doesn't lift weights.

He raises chickens and cows, works on the home's landscaping in the front and back yards, chases away little varmints side by side with the family dog, grows food for the family, harvests that food, and then cooks it for the family. If you live in a farm town like Lothering and do the kinds of things my boyfriend's dad does every day, it stands to reason that you would either be lean or buff, because all you ever do is work and eat. And some days, he refuses to eat so that his children can instead. He is probably the baddest dude I've ever met.

Hawke's figure makes more than enough sense to me.

Firstly, assuming you even know what a really muscular individual is, it is impossible to achieve that level of muscularity without resistance training, especially with builds like Male Hawkes who will sport the round and full muscle bellies without his armor on.

There is no way for even the most genetically gifted individuals on earth to achieve such muscularity without some form of resistance training. Hawkes physique is comparable to the bodybuilders in the Mr universe in the 70's, there is no way your boyfriends father has that level of muscularity with such low bodyfat levels without any training at all and adding to that, the sentance i highlighted from your post makes absolutely no sense at all. You don't get as large and shredded as a bodybuilder by "living in a farm working and eating".

I think physical labor WAS mentioned there, which can have the same results as resistance training.

Also, people tend to not realize how much genetics CAN play into musculature.  One of my children is naturally muscular, and has had, for example, washboard abs since she was 4 -- as soon as she lost her baby chub in her stomach.  She has insane muscle definition in her arms, legs, back -- it looks good, but it is definitely not the result of working out.  This is opposed to another one of my children who is naturally skinny (right now, he's 5'3 and 80 pounds).  Though he has very low body fat, he does not have the same kind of muscle definition (I bring that up to point out that it's not my youngest's low body fat that makes her appear to be more muscular than she is -- she just is very muscular naturally).

Modifié par ejoslin, 08 novembre 2010 - 02:14 .