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Is it possible to unlock Blood Mage without being a Mage


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MrDizazta

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I know that if you spare Jowan's life that he can open a portal to the fade using blood magic in order to confront the Desire Demon. I want to know if my warrior can go into the fade to confront the Demon or do i have to be a mage.  I keep reading that I don't need to be a mage if i go this route. Is this true?

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Zjarcal

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Nope, you can only unlock it if you're playing a mage yourself. Warriors and rogues can't enter the fade themselves, you'll need either Morrigan, Wynne, Irving, or Jowan to do it



You can unlock the spec in Awakening by buying a tome (it will be unlocked for Origins too), regardless of which class you're playing.

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Zjarcal wrote...

You can unlock the spec in Awakening by buying a tome (it will be unlocked for Origins too), regardless of which class you're playing.


:happy: sweeet. . .thanks for the tip. I was having a tough time RPing myself into making that Blood Mage deal.

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Morwen Eledhwen wrote...

Zjarcal wrote...

You can unlock the spec in Awakening by buying a tome (it will be unlocked for Origins too), regardless of which class you're playing.


:happy: sweeet. . .thanks for the tip. I was having a tough time RPing myself into making that Blood Mage deal.


Yeah, I've never made the deal either. What I did was that after having the spec unlocked, I RPed that Avernus taught my mage Blood Magic after she spared him.

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Bruddajakka

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Making the deal was easy enough for me. Hell my mages regularly sell Connor's out for a spell tome.

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Morwen Eledhwen

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Zjarcal wrote...

Morwen Eledhwen wrote...

Zjarcal wrote...

You can unlock the spec in Awakening by buying a tome (it will be unlocked for Origins too), regardless of which class you're playing.


:happy: sweeet. . .thanks for the tip. I was having a tough time RPing myself into making that Blood Mage deal.


Yeah, I've never made the deal either. What I did was that after having the spec unlocked, I RPed that Avernus taught my mage Blood Magic after she spared him.


Haha. . .I'm not sure I'd ever make my own Mage a Blood Mage but I sure would give that spec to Morrigan. Arcane Warrior is wasted on her and I only made her a Spirit Healer last time because I lost Wynne from defiling the Ashes and I needed someone to learn Revival.

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Jacks Smirking Revenge

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Yeah I RP that I learn it on my own. I mean if Jowan can teach it to himself with books from the Circle why couldn't our warden who is #1badass in Fereldon learn from his/her travels.



Although my mage's RP on blood magic has always been use it as a last resort or oh crap spell to turn the tide of a battle. He isn't out looking to sacrifice people or summon demons just likes to have a backup plan in case things get a little out of hand. I consider him actually a neutral good type of character.

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Jacks Smirking Revenge wrote...

Yeah I RP that I learn it on my own. I mean if Jowan can teach it to himself with books from the Circle why couldn't our warden who is #1badass in Fereldon learn from his/her travels.

Although my mage's RP on blood magic has always been use it as a last resort or oh crap spell to turn the tide of a battle. He isn't out looking to sacrifice people or summon demons just likes to have a backup plan in case things get a little out of hand. I consider him actually a neutral good type of character.


The Blood spell that you learn from Avernus's research is a self-inflicted-wound spell only, which was why my Mage felt okay using it. She wouldn't have learned anything that would have needed an external source.

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Jacks Smirking Revenge

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Yeah I never use Blood Sacrifice or Control since that is not how I RP my Blood Mage. As for the Warden's Keep abilities yeah I use them a lot since like you said you are inflicting yourself.



So basically I got Blood Wound in my bag of tricks in case things get a bit out of control.

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I never used Blood Sacrifice but I did use Blood Control. You're already killing your enemies, might as well make them temporary allies before they die. :police:

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Liliandra Nadiar

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I unlocked it by buying the book in Awakening. :P



RP-wise, I had my mage learn it after the Circle and 'seeing' how blood magic behaved as opposed to regular magic. She learned Spirit Healer much the same way.

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Never used Blood Control, never used blood magic around anyone except Morrigan and Zev (and Loghain in the final battle, since he wasn't coming back from that). Did use Blood Sacrifice, but only on, um, well, Dog.

That Surana's my least favorite Warden, fwiw.

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Corker wrote...
Did use Blood Sacrifice, but only on, um, well, Dog.


That's worse!!

My blood mage wasn't picky about who was in the party when she used it. Since she was only using her blood or making the enemies blood boil, she couldn't care less if anyone would be offended.

It would've been nice if being a blood mage had been properly acknowledged by your companions (like Wynne in the Tower).

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Jacks Smirking Revenge

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Zjarcal wrote...

Corker wrote...
Did use Blood Sacrifice, but only on, um, well, Dog.


That's worse!!

My blood mage wasn't picky about who was in the party when she used it. Since she was only using her blood or making the enemies blood boil, she couldn't care less if anyone would be offended.

It would've been nice if being a blood mage had been properly acknowledged by your companions (like Wynne in the Tower).



I agree why Blood Sacrifice Dog? When you can Blood Sacrifice Wynne or Oghren(to drunk to notice anyways) :devil:.

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Morrigan does during the DR conversation. Plus there's the scene with Wynne.