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[Dust_King]

SSV Enterprise wrote...

The 360 version actually got an overall better score on Metacritic than the PS3 version.

Whether or not the graphics had to be trimmed down a bit is beside the point. The point is that it was possible to port FFXIII to the 360, so it should certainly be possible for MGS4 and UC2 to be ported, if the developers were to try. We know they won't, though.

MGS4 took up a whole bluray disc (50gb) with compression, a 10-12 hour game over 7-8 disks really doesn't sound like a good idea, it may be possible but it's probably not practical.

Uncharted is done by naughty dog, a studio owned by Sony. I don't see Sony letting a 360 version happen, so I'd say this wasn't actually possible. 

Also metacritic scores mean that XIII was better compared to 360 games than it was compared to ps3 games, it doesn't mean the game was better on 360. http://www.eurogamer...face-off?page=1

[charmingcharlie]

anti-hero-usmc wrote...

I already have a Cerberus Network code with all of the paid DLC for the PC Version... will we be able to just use our old CN codes on the ps3, and have access to what we already bought?

My own gut feeling is no you won't have access to the PS3 content if you have a PC Cerberus account.  If you look at your promotions page you will see that you only have access to the PC version of the DLC and not the 360 version of the DLC.  The only exceptions to that rule are :-

Recon Hood (Dr. Pepper)     
Umbra Visor (Dr. Pepper)     
Sentry Interface (Dr. Pepper)         
Inferno Armor    
Collectors' Weapon and Armor         
Incisor Sniper Rifle

Other than those items everything else is platform specific,.

[cerberus1701]

You can buy ME2 for 360 for $20.



Buy the DLC? Another 20-ish



(Cheaper than the PS3 version)



Listen, crybabies. You DO NOT PAY TO PLAY DLC WHEN YOU BUY IT.



You pay to play it NOW.



It ALL ends up repackaged for cheaper than what you paid.



There aren't enough waaaaahmbulances in the country for all the casualties here.

[Raven_26]

anti-hero-usmc wrote...

I already have a Cerberus Network code with all of the paid DLC for the PC Version... will we be able to just use our old CN codes on the ps3, and have access to what we already bought?

No it wont work, I have the PC and 360 ME2, you have to buy the DLC for the platfrom you are useing.  With the PC you get the DLC via BioWare, with the 360 you get it via Microsoft.  Not sure what PS3 uses, but you will have to buy them that way (or download them with the redeem code)

[rogershoe]

cerberus1701 wrote...

You can buy ME2 for 360 for $20.

Buy the DLC? Another 20-ish

(Cheaper than the PS3 version)

Listen, crybabies. You DO NOT PAY TO PLAY DLC WHEN YOU BUY IT.

You pay to play it NOW.

It ALL ends up repackaged for cheaper than what you paid.

There aren't enough waaaaahmbulances in the country for all the casualties here.

Exactly. In fact, I think it has more to do with the fact that it is coming to the PS3 than the fact that it gets the DLC included. I somehow doubt they'd **** if it was only a GOTY release for the PC and 360. Seriously, this happens all the time and you knew what you were getting when you paid $60 for the release at launch.

[Jamin101]

EatChildren wrote...

Once again I am reminded as to why I stopped visiting these boards. Full of far too many people who dont want to read, but just want to **** and complain.

well with cotrabutions like this dont let the door hit you. maybe address what people are complaining about. why is it some people feel the need to brown nose a developer it doesnt get you anything. hearing complaints is how you fix them. you should goto bungie.net forums where everybody is omg troll if you say anything you would fit right in

[Jamin101]

mrsph wrote...

Jamin101 wrote...

so can i get mgs4 or uncharted with 6 hours of free content that cost 30 bucks for xbox users. oh wait their not being ****d out by ea

You bet your ass if those two games were ported to the 360 that they would get "incentives" to get people to buy them.

Why in the hell are people acting like EA/Bioware are the first game companies to do this? Betheseda has been doing this for ages, and so have others.

key word being were. somehow ps3 users never lose thier exclusives. once halo leaves might as well just buy a ps3. im only complaining in principle because my brother owns a ps3 and i own an xbox so in effect we fully share but if we didnt once again 360 users get screwed

[THWIP71]

Thanks for the info, Jesse...that's all I needed to know to decide that Mass Effect 2 for the 360 was my last BioWare game purchase.    
There is absolutely no justification for the PS3 version getting all of that content for free, just because you have the space to put it on the disc.   I pre-orderd ME1, and bought the DLC on XBL.  I pre-ordered ME2, and purchased every single piece of DLC, as soon as it was released.   
Nobody put a gun to the heads of BioWare suits and forced them to do the original "exclusive" deal with MS, that prevented the PS3 from seeing ME1, and caused the year "delay" for ME2.  The 360 and PC gamers who've supported you for YEARS, both with the ME franchise, as well as with KOTOR and Jade Empire last gen,  don't deserve to be dumped on like this.   If you'd priced the game at perhaps $49.99, but still offered the DLC separately, as well as included some of the other extras you mentioned, I'd have no problem with that.  But I've got a giant hole in my wallet from the 2 ME games now, and yet this news makes so nautious, I honestly don't give a rat's arse how this saga ends.   I feel like I've been unjustly victimized for my years of BioWare support, while PS3 owners are being rewarded for something they did nothing to deserve.   Since when is waiting for a game you never even knew was coming,  a valid reason to receive free content?   If ANYONE deserves free content, it's those that have kept your doors open, your families fed, and your bills paid.   You know...your FANS.   You don't bite the hand that feeds you.
As for me, I now look at BioWare the same way I do Activision : you are a huge part of what is wrong with this industry, and I refuse to support you any longer.    

Kevin Carey

[Dust_King]

@THWIP71 What if a ultimate edition was coming out for 360 and pc, would you still feel as grievously offended?

[comicfan22]

THWIP71 wrote...
"I'm feeling self entitled. Boo hoo."

Get a grip, ME2 is almost a year old and the dlc is aging too. As someone else pointed out, you pay to play the dlc(when it first comes out) NOW. You can't expect new people who pick up a year old game to pay in full for old content? Be reasonable.

[cerberus1701]

Jamin101 wrote...

mrsph wrote...

Jamin101 wrote...

so can i get mgs4 or uncharted with 6 hours of free content that cost 30 bucks for xbox users. oh wait their not being ****d out by ea

You bet your ass if those two games were ported to the 360 that they would get "incentives" to get people to buy them.

Why in the hell are people acting like EA/Bioware are the first game companies to do this? Betheseda has been doing this for ages, and so have others.

key word being were. somehow ps3 users never lose thier exclusives. once halo leaves might as well just buy a ps3. im only complaining in principle because my brother owns a ps3 and i own an xbox so in effect we fully share but if we didnt once again 360 users get screwed

Why do PS3ers never lose their exclusives?

Because, while MS is content with liscensing agreements, Sony actually BUYS the developers of their best IPs.

[THWIP71]

comicfan22 wrote...

THWIP71 wrote...
"I'm feeling self entitled. Boo hoo."

Get a grip, ME2 is almost a year old and the dlc is aging too. As someone else pointed out, you pay to play the dlc(when it first comes out) NOW. You can't expect new people who pick up a year old game to pay in full for old content? Be reasonable.

That's so stupid, it's almost not worth responding....but I'll bite.

It's only "old" to PC and 360 gamers....last I checked, games aren't perishable goods.
To someone who only owns a PS3, it's brand spanking new.  Don't attempt a rebuttal...you failed that with your initial comment.

[cerberus1701]

SSV Enterprise wrote...

To that I would say: Bull****.  Final Fantasy XIII came to the 360, there should be nothing on the technical side of things holding MGS4 and UC2 back.

Except the fact that Sony OWNS the developers.

[THWIP71]

Dust_King wrote...

@THWIP71 What if a ultimate edition was coming out for 360 and pc, would you still feel as grievously offended?

How would that change anything???   I've played EVERYTHING.   What good would a double-dip do me, unless I was getting a lot of new content?   Again...I don't have a problem with BioWare including all of that on the disc ; it makes sense, given the Blu-Ray's capacity.  But all of that content...that I paid full price for....PLUS unique content I'll NEVER see....at really no charge?   Yes, I'm "offended".  

[KingDan97]

DetailedSubset wrote...

I never said anything about the community here being solely responsible foe the success of ME. I said the PC/Xbox crowd was responsible which includes everyone who bought the game and who is not on the forums as well as those who are. Bioware owes it's customers everything without us they would be nothing and ME wouldn't exist. Using exclusive content to draw in new customers at the expense of the old ones is wrong and that's the end of the matter as far as I can see. Bioware however is good and knows that its customers are responsible  for their success so I have no problem and fully support the PS3 version.

See, now there's that word again. Owes. Bioware OWES you nothing. Bioware's end of the bargain was complete when you got a game on a disc. If they decided tomorrow that all future DLC for Mass Effect 2 would be a PS3 exclusive then there's nothing you would have any right to in that decision. The small percentage of consumers who would know, let alone care about the exclusivity don't even make up 10% of the MILLIONS of sales that the Mass Effect series has had.

Am I saying I want Bioware to make it exclusive? No. Am I saying I think it will be exclusive? No. But if you think for a second that Bioware would owe you anything if they decided to make it exclusive you are well beyond dead wrong.

As a side note, "DLC Exclusivity" never includes PC, they would get their content anyway. The only people who would be deprived of it would be 360 players. Also, I think they deserve a bit of exclusive content to be honest, I mean if you think about it they aren't getting the Call of Duty DLC for two whole years, and they'll never get to see 90% of the ME1 choices.

In short: Bioware owes you nothing besides what was on the disc and NEVER WILL.

THWIP71 wrote...

*Whiny Self Entitled Snip*

You really have no idea who makes what do you? Mass Effect 1 is owned by Microsoft Game Studios, Bioware doesn't have the right to redistribute it. Whether Bioware owns the IP or not they don't have the right to redistribute a title that was made under the jurisdiction of another group unless it was in the contract.

You must have a basic issue with Game of the Year editions, when did you quit on Bethesda? Back with Morrowind or did you wait till Oblivion to give them another chance with your good graces. Why didn't you boycott against the Dragon Age Ultimate Edition, those people "did nothing" as well.

I'll tell you the same thing I told subset, Bioware owe you nothing. Never have and never will. You could have personally mailed them an envelope with five hundred thousand dollars start up money to them back when they were starting they would owe you nothing. Get over it.

Basic laws of supply and demand, you can feel as entitled as you like but so long as they are getting paid enough that your one purchase doesn't effect them, they don't need to give you anything. Even if you convince every last person you know, that's not even a dent in their pocket.

Modifié par KingDan97, 08 novembre 2010 - 04:15 .

[charmingcharlie]

cerberus1701 wrote...

SSV Enterprise wrote...

To that I would say: Bull****.  Final Fantasy XIII came to the 360, there should be nothing on the technical side of things holding MGS4 and UC2 back.

Except the fact that Sony OWNS the developers.

Last time I checked Sony most certainly did not own Konami or Square Enix, which is probably the reason why Metal Gear Solid Rising is a multiplatform title and why nearly all of Square Enix titles are now multiplatform too.  Now it is true they do own Naughty Dog but the other two are third party developers just like Bioware.

Modifié par charmingcharlie, 08 novembre 2010 - 04:06 .

[Dust_King]

@THWIP71: I still don't see what your issue is. By your logic ME2 is new to anyone who hasn't played it, because "games aren't perishable goods."



What seems to annoy you is that some people buying the game for the first time don't have to pay as much as you due to them getting the DLC for free, am I right so far?



So why didn't you ditch Bioware when they dropped the retail price on 360 by $50? (price at gamestop)



It is exactly the same thing, people are getting something for less than you paid because they waited.



...unless it's the fact that it's no longer exclusive to 360 which is annoying you?

[comicfan22]

THWIP71 wrote...



That's so stupid, it's almost not worth responding....but I'll bite.

It's only "old" to PC and 360 gamers....last I checked, games aren't perishable goods.
To someone who only owns a PS3, it's brand spanking new.  Don't attempt a rebuttal...you failed that with your initial comment.

Except that it's not "brand spanking new". The dlc included is incentive for PS3 owners to pick up a year old game. Its the same as the other one with the dlc included and a comic book to help get players caught up on the events in ME1. It would be no different if they did release a GOTY edition. You merely feel that you've been ripped off and you haven't been at all. You have played through all of ME2 (so far), look at Jesse's message really closely. He says initially exclusive. That doesn't mean it is, or won't be included for PC or Xbox 360 through CN.

[comicfan22]

You are truly wise Kingdan

[Mars Nova]

Jamin101 wrote...
once halo leaves might as well just buy a ps3.

Not gonna happen, Microsoft owns the rights to Halo.  True, the 360 loses far more exclusives than the PS3, but the 360's reputation is built on Xbox Live rather than exclusives. 

As for the PS3, it doesn't really interest me.  I'm sure there's probably a couple of exclusives that I'd really want to play, but not so much that I'd be willing to spend three or four hundred dollars on one, especially when it's three or four hundred dollars I don't have.

This whole console war crap is stupid anyway.  I'd venture there's probably very little fundamental difference between the 360 and PS3 anyway.  I admit to being a bit of an immature 360 fanboy at times, something I'm trying to cure myself of, and fanboys of all consoles should do the same.

I think OXM said it best in their response to a letter they recieved: "if you're proud of your system and you're having fun with it, you should have plenty to celebrate without spitting at the guys on the other side of the fence.  And we suspect that fence might not really exist, anyway."

[jedishephard]

v1K0 wrote...

There's nothing wrong with getting all the existing 360/PC content for free, but exclusivity BS is too far.

so you are fine with paying for stuff others get a break from? sounds like youre dumb in my opinion...sorry i dont have a fat wallet like you...

[rogershoe]

jedishephard wrote...

v1K0 wrote...

There's nothing wrong with getting all the existing 360/PC content for free, but exclusivity BS is too far.

so you are fine with paying for stuff others get a break from? sounds like youre dumb in my opinion...sorry i dont have a fat wallet like you...

Then you should have waited a year before purchasing Mass Effect 2.<_<

[SSV Enterprise]

THWIP71 wrote...

Thanks for the info, Jesse...that's all I needed to know to decide that Mass Effect 2 for the 360 was my last BioWare game purchase.    
There is absolutely no justification for the PS3 version getting all of that content for free, just because you have the space to put it on the disc.   I pre-orderd ME1, and bought the DLC on XBL.  I pre-ordered ME2, and purchased every single piece of DLC, as soon as it was released.   
Nobody put a gun to the heads of BioWare suits and forced them to do the original "exclusive" deal with MS, that prevented the PS3 from seeing ME1, and caused the year "delay" for ME2.  The 360 and PC gamers who've supported you for YEARS, both with the ME franchise, as well as with KOTOR and Jade Empire last gen,  don't deserve to be dumped on like this.   If you'd priced the game at perhaps $49.99, but still offered the DLC separately, as well as included some of the other extras you mentioned, I'd have no problem with that.  But I've got a giant hole in my wallet from the 2 ME games now, and yet this news makes so nautious, I honestly don't give a rat's arse how this saga ends.   I feel like I've been unjustly victimized for my years of BioWare support, while PS3 owners are being rewarded for something they did nothing to deserve.   Since when is waiting for a game you never even knew was coming,  a valid reason to receive free content?   If ANYONE deserves free content, it's those that have kept your doors open, your families fed, and your bills paid.   You know...your FANS.   You don't bite the hand that feeds you.
As for me, I now look at BioWare the same way I do Activision : you are a huge part of what is wrong with this industry, and I refuse to support you any longer.    

Kevin Carey

I smite thee with the words of Jesus, since you obviously overlooked them.

There was a wealthy landowner who needed to hire men one day to do some work in his field.  He went out in the morning to the marketplace, foundsome men willing to work, and offered them some money to work all day in the field.  The men found it reasonable, so they went to work.

Aroundthe middle of the day, the landowner saw the need for more men, and went and hired some more.  He offered the same amount to them.  In the middle of the afternoon, he did the same, hiring a few more men for the same amount.  Even towards the beginning of the evening, he went out andhired some men, for the same amount.

At nightfall, the men who were hired first saw that the others were being paid the same, even though they had not worked as long.  They found this unfair, so they went to the landowner and complained that they had not been paid fairly.  The landowner replied to them, "Didn't you find this amount reasonable when I first hired you?  Why, then, do you find it unreasonable now?  What I pay others is my business with them and not you, as long as I honor my agreement with you."

Same kind of logic applies here.  You found the price for ME2 reasonable
when you first bought it.  It was a normal, average price for a game. 
It didn't make you angry or make you feel like it was overpriced then. 
Why does it matter to you what price BioWare puts on it at a later date,
to others?  Do you wish the PS3 players to pay more? It's not like
that money is going into your pocket.

cerberus1701 wrote...

SSV Enterprise wrote...

To
that I would say: Bull****.  Final Fantasy XIII came to the 360, there
should be nothing on the technical side of things holding MGS4 and UC2
back.

Except the fact that Sony OWNS the developers.

That's on the legal side of things, not technical.

Modifié par SSV Enterprise, 08 novembre 2010 - 04:23 .

[SSV Enterprise]

Ignore this space...

Modifié par SSV Enterprise, 08 novembre 2010 - 04:23 .

[charmingcharlie]

SSV Enterprise you have already posted that Jesus rubbish once in here stop spamming the topic, if you wanted to direct someone to that rubbish you could have at least linked to it.

If you want I could repost my entire updated version of your Jesus fable where the wealthy land owner ended up destitute because of questionable working practices and the fact no one would work for the land owner any more because he was a con artist.

Personally I find it rather shocking how quickly Bioware are devaluing their products and it doesn't exactly inspire confidence in the Mass Effect brand if less than a year later they have to practically give everything away just to get people to buy their game.

Modifié par charmingcharlie, 08 novembre 2010 - 04:28 .