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[Ryzaki]

Right because that's totally why my modded game runs perfectly fine eh? And anything you screw up in the SGE can be fixed but you obviously refuse to see that.

Also BW said might not run properly. Not "is never going to run properly." 

For pete's sake they didn't even admit that Conrad was a glitch!

Anyways when ME2 PS3 sales end up being "meh" I'll just lol. Honestly who is going to pay full pice for a year old game missing a giant chunk of itself when you can get something new for the same exact price? Only hard core fans would bother and they'd most likely have played the game on another system already.

Edit: And you're one person and the fact is if you're on this site you're getting it regardless of what you say. I mumbled and groaned about no s/s romances and said I wouldn't buy ME2 and guess what happened. I bought it.

Modifié par Ryzaki, 14 novembre 2010 - 12:25 .

[Cancer Puppet]

There isn't anything Bioware can do about ME1 being a PC/360 exclusive. Microsoft owns it. Period. I wouldn't care if PS3 owners got to play ME1 too, but it's not going to happen. So what upsets the PC/360 crowd is that PS3 owners are getting exclusive content. It's not as though this new version of ME2 is a GotY edition that PC/360 owners can pick up too. We just want everything to be equal, with an understanding that ME1 not coming to PS3 is not our fault.

[Ryzaki]

Cancer Puppet wrote...

There isn't anything Bioware can do about ME1 being a PC/360 exclusive. Microsoft owns it. Period. I wouldn't care if PS3 owners got to play ME1 too, but it's not going to happen. So what upsets the PC/360 crowd is that PS3 owners are getting exclusive content. It's not as though this new version of ME2 is a GotY edition that PC/360 owners can pick up too. We just want everything to be equal, with an understanding that ME1 not coming to PS3 is not our fault.

But nothing is equal now. Even the Xbox/PC people got the comic it still wouldn't be equal.

Why the heck didn't BW just rename the dang game and combine it and ME2 on one disc (there'd be more than enough space!) I'll never understand

Modifié par Ryzaki, 14 novembre 2010 - 12:24 .

[Skilled Seeker]

Thats what I'm saying. Only a fool would buy the PS3 version of ME2 just to get the comic. But if it doesn't come out on PC/360 you bet I won't be purchasing ME3 or any more DLC.

[Ryzaki]

It's a timed exclusive. The phrasing makes that clear. I'm not understanding all this "it's not fair! to the xbox and PC!" nonsense.

Modifié par Ryzaki, 14 novembre 2010 - 12:27 .

[Majin Paul]

I don't think the PS3 version needs any exclusive content to sell, I doubt not having exclusive content would be what stops people buying it, what may though is not being able to play the first game in any form on the same console.

[Skilled Seeker]

Ryzaki wrote...

It's a timed exclusive. The phrasing makes that clear. I'm not understanding all this "it's not fair! to the xbox and PC!" nonsense.

Its in response to your 'PS3 should get exclusive content/comic should remain exclusive to PS3' nonsense. Don't try and pretend you have no idea why we are against this.

Modifié par Skilled Seeker, 14 novembre 2010 - 12:29 .

[Ryzaki]

Skilled Seeker wrote...

Its in response to your 'PS3 should get exclusive content/comic should remain exclusive to PS3' nonsense. Don't try and pretend you have no idea why we are against this.

I meant as a timed exclusive. Do you know what that is? 

It's when it's exclusive for a time.

It's silly to be sure. But it'll be a bit of a makeup for the lack of ME1 and the fact that they're getting the game a year late.

Frankly I wish they would just do what NG did and rename ME1 change the graphics, give it some extra stuff and sell it again. But ra forbid they do that. <_<

Modifié par Ryzaki, 14 novembre 2010 - 12:31 .

[Skilled Seeker]

Well you weren't very clear on that seeing as you never said timed before now. Sure the PS3 can have some timed exclusives if it will stop you guys moaning about fairness.

[Ryzaki]

Skilled Seeker wrote...

Well you weren't very clear on that seeing as you never said timed before now. Sure the PS3 can have some timed exclusives if it will stop you guys moaning about fairness.

Oh? So that's not what you're doing by complaining about the comic being a permanet exclusive? 

[Ryzaki]

Majin Paul wrote...

I don't think the PS3 version needs any exclusive content to sell, I doubt not having exclusive content would be what stops people buying it, what may though is not being able to play the first game in any form on the same console.

This is very true. Not having ME1 is probably going to hurt ME2s sales.

"The full Mass Effect experience" indeed.

Urgh. I hate M$

Modifié par Ryzaki, 14 novembre 2010 - 12:32 .

[Skilled Seeker]

Ryzaki wrote...

Skilled Seeker wrote...

Well you weren't very clear on that seeing as you never said timed before now. Sure the PS3 can have some timed exclusives if it will stop you guys moaning about fairness.

Oh? So that's not what you're doing by complaining about the comic being a permanet exclusive? 

I am arguing against people that propose permanent exclusivity yes.

[Skilled Seeker]

Ryzaki wrote...

Majin Paul wrote...

I don't think the PS3 version needs any exclusive content to sell, I doubt not having exclusive content would be what stops people buying it, what may though is not being able to play the first game in any form on the same console.

This is very true. Not having ME1 is probably going to hurt ME2s sales.

"The full Mass Effect experience" indeed.

Urgh. I hate M$

Yeah cause its not like Sony or Nintendo are guilty of making exclusive contracts.

[Majin Paul]

Ryzaki wrote...

Majin Paul wrote...

I don't think the PS3 version needs any exclusive content to sell, I doubt not having exclusive content would be what stops people buying it, what may though is not being able to play the first game in any form on the same console.

This is very true. Not having ME1 is probably going to hurt ME2s sales.

"The full Mass Effect experience" indeed.

Urgh. I hate M$

The comic could give a more complete experience though depending how they do it.
For instance if they implemented gameplay into the comic somehow for the key parts.
or even better, they let you explore the planets with side missions and read a comic of the events of that sidequest so you can still explore the places that mattered and make even more decisions, with only collectible stuff like Turian insignias being forgotten.

[charmingcharlie]

Ryzaki wrote...

Right because that's totally why my modded game runs perfectly fine eh? And anything you screw up in the SGE can be fixed but you obviously refuse to see that.

Well you obviously refuse to listen to what Bioware says about the save game editor so make of that what you will.

Ryzaki wrote...
Anyways when ME2 PS3 sales end up being "meh" I'll just lol. Honestly who is going to pay full pice for a year old game missing a giant chunk of itself when you can get something new for the same exact price? Only hard core fans would bother and they'd most likely have played the game on another system already.

I don't doubt for a minute sales of the PS3 version won't be impressive for the simple reason those that WANT the game either bought the 360 version or the PC version.  The people that buy ME 2 on the PS3 will be those that for one reason or another refuse to get an Xbox 360 or a low end PC to play the game.

Now it will be totally irrelevant to them the game is "1 year old" it will be a new game to them since they have never played Mass Effect 2 and they will go out and buy it regardless of whether it has content that the PC/360 users don't have access too. 

The only people that want the PS3 to have extra content over the PC/360 are people that want to have something to crow about. to PC/360 users.

Ryzaki wrote...
Edit: And you're one person and the fact is if you're on this site you're getting it regardless of what you say. I mumbled and groaned about no s/s romances and said I wouldn't buy ME2 and guess what happened. I bought it.

Oh believe me I have no problem with not buying Mass Effect 3, I haven't been entirely happy with a lot of the stuff Bioware has been pulling, especially with PC gamers.   I mainly hang around here to see if Bioware is making any effort to improve things.

[Skilled Seeker]

Its not like we PC gamers can't experience ME3 through more notorious means

Modifié par Skilled Seeker, 14 novembre 2010 - 12:43 .

[Da_Lion_Man]

Skilled Seeker wrote...

Thats what I'm saying. Only a fool would buy the PS3 version of ME2 just to get the comic. But if it doesn't come out on PC/360 you bet I won't be purchasing ME3 or any more DLC.

Yeah that's what they all say. I bet you will buy it at launch.

[Ryzaki]

Skilled Seeker wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...

Majin Paul wrote...

I don't think the PS3 version needs any exclusive content to sell, I doubt not having exclusive content would be what stops people buying it, what may though is not being able to play the first game in any form on the same console.

This is very true. Not having ME1 is probably going to hurt ME2s sales.

"The full Mass Effect experience" indeed.

Urgh. I hate M$

Yeah cause its not like Sony or Nintendo are guilty of making exclusive contracts.

Never said they werent.

You know what they say about people who assume...?

[Ryzaki]

charmingcharlie wrote..

Well you obviously refuse to listen to what Bioware says about the save game editor so make of that what you will.

Right .So when I'm playing my ME3 game I'll be sure to go "Huh. I thought this was broken? Oh well!" and keep on playing for you.

I don't doubt for a minute sales of the PS3 version won't be impressive for the simple reason those that WANT the game either bought the 360 version or the PC version.  The people that buy ME 2 on the PS3 will be those that for one reason or another refuse to get an Xbox 360 or a low end PC to play the game.

Now it will be totally irrelevant to them the game is "1 year old" it will be a new game to them since they have never played Mass Effect 2 and they will go out and buy it regardless of whether it has content that the PC/360 users don't have access too. 

The only people that want the PS3 to have extra content over the PC/360 are people that want to have something to crow about. to PC/360 users.

Right because only have the second half of a trilogy is going to rake in the sales because it's "new". True maybe the Comic won't make a difference. It will however if implemented on the Xbox and PC waste resources that could be going towards something more valuable. Like new DLC.

Oh believe me I have no problem with not buying Mass Effect 3, I haven't been entirely happy with a lot of the stuff Bioware has been pulling, especially with PC gamers.   I mainly hang around here to see if Bioware is making any effort to improve things.

Sure. Sure.

[Ryzaki]

Majin Paul wrote...

The comic could give a more complete experience though depending how they do it.
For instance if they implemented gameplay into the comic somehow for the key parts.
or even better, they let you explore the planets with side missions and read a comic of the events of that sidequest so you can still explore the places that mattered and make even more decisions, with only collectible stuff like Turian insignias being forgotten.

Let's be honest here. A comic is not going to give you the same epic feeling of the game. You're not going to feel the thrill of running up the Citadel. The rush of going through the Conduit. The lulz when you kill a Collasus far faster than you think. You're not going to get same richness of dialogue or feeling of anxiety or fear or nervousness. Well I personally think a comic would have nothing on that.

[Elite Midget]

Skilled Seeker wrote...

Thats what I'm saying. Only a fool would buy the PS3 version of ME2 just to get the comic. But if it doesn't come out on PC/360 you bet I won't be purchasing ME3 or any more DLC.

Only a fool wouldn't get ME3 because they can't get the comic.

[Majin Paul]

Ryzaki wrote...

Majin Paul wrote...

The comic could give a more complete experience though depending how they do it.
For instance if they implemented gameplay into the comic somehow for the key parts.
or even better, they let you explore the planets with side missions and read a comic of the events of that sidequest so you can still explore the places that mattered and make even more decisions, with only collectible stuff like Turian insignias being forgotten.

Let's be honest here. A comic is not going to give you the same epic feeling of the game. You're not going to feel the thrill of running up the Citadel. The rush of going through the Conduit. The lulz when you kill a Collasus far faster than you think. You're not going to get same richness of dialogue or feeling of anxiety or fear or nervousness. Well I personally think a comic would have nothing on that.

I never said it would, but since we've been told that we're getting ME1 via an interactive comic (I see 'we', I have 1 and 2 on 360), unless they announce otherwise, it's probably better to consider and hope how they can give the best possible experience they can and let you make as much decisions as possible as you could with the game. Because okay, playing a game can be more immersive, but a comic isn't exactly a bad way of showing the first games story, at least it isn't a simple list where you click the option you want to have made.

[AdamNW]

I love the high-horse comments in this thread.

[Ryzaki]

Majin Paul wrote...
I never said it would, but since we've been told that we're getting ME1 via an interactive comic (I see 'we', I have 1 and 2 on 360), unless they announce otherwise, it's probably better to consider and hope how they can give the best possible experience they can and let you make as much decisions as possible as you could with the game. Because okay, playing a game can be more immersive, but a comic isn't exactly a bad way of showing the first games story, at least it isn't a simple list where you click the option you want to have made.

I don't know. I'm not fond of the Liara comics art (actually...I'm not fond of any of the ME art I've seen). And...ME comics also don't seem to be all that great to me. So I'm probably being pessmistic but I'd rather assume the worst and be pleasantly surprised than vice versa. But to go over must of the choices (along with the characterization) would be a long comic. (Plus we lose some of the great voice acting:()

[charmingcharlie]

Ryzaki wrote...
Right because only have the second half of a trilogy is going to rake in the sales because it's "new". True maybe the Comic won't make a difference. It will however if implemented on the Xbox and PC waste resources that could be going towards something more valuable. Like new DLC.

Wow so now we shouldn't get the comic because it would be a waste of resources   Well according to you the PS3 version is going to die sales wise surely that is a waste of resources then ?  There is obviously a demand for this comic on the PC/360, hell depending on the quality of the comic Bioware could even get away with charging for it on the PC/360.  That doesn't sound like a waste of resources to me, that sounds like giving your customers what they want and getting paid for it.

As for you assuming that I wil buy Mass Effect 3, that is your perogative.  If you think I will buy a game from a company that doesn't value my custom then there is nothing I can do to change your thinking.  As I said I have been less than happy with the way Bioware has been doing things of late.  I actually regret pre-ordering Mass Effect 2 now and so far I have Mass Effect 3 pegged as a game I will buy in a steam sale.  But as I said I am not going to convince you of that so there is no point in me banging on about it.