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[Pacifien]

charmingcharlie wrote...
In short all Mass Effect 2 customers should be treated to the same content be it on the PC, PS3 or 360.

Problem is that the PS3 customers have already been treated differently. They had to wait a year for the release of ME2. They won't be able to play ME1. BioWare cannot go back in time and change this, they have to work with events as they have unfolded.

Also, not that I know anything about what deal BioWare made with Sony, but I speculate exclusive content was part of the deal. It may have been deemed a small price to play if the exclusive content didn't create a large disparity in the three versions of the game, which I really don't think the interactive comic does. Not only that, but the BioWare team had to get innovative with their port to PS3 because they knew ME1 wasn't an option, unlike it is for 360/PC players. The interactive comic allows for people who hadn't played the game to make some key choices to import into their ME2 game. An innovation that came too late for the original release of ME2, but could find its way into ME3 territory for all platforms. Result? No lame default ME3 story.

As for the PS3 owners getting the DLC packaged, I already went over this in the old thread that Jesse Houston locked, but newer versions of games always get reduced price tags and extra content as the months go by. What the PS3 owners are essentially getting is an ultimate version of ME2 with DLC that has been created up until that point. Lame that the 360/PC users don't get a similar version? Not really. For the price the game is going on those two platforms now, once you purchase all the DLC separately, the end price is likely still cheaper than what the PS3 players have to play. Because of that, I don't see why BioWare needs to make an equivalent ulimate version for the 360/PC at this time because it will be incomplete: not all the DLC that the developers intend to release with ME2 has been released yet.

Modifié par Pacifien, 07 novembre 2010 - 12:20 .

[cachx]

Jesse Houston wrote...
There will also be some DLC Bundles, such as the Aegis Pack as well as exclusive both Free and Paid DLC for all PlayStation 3 owners such as the Recon Operations Pack.   
Edit: While I can't go into details all of this content is or was available to Xbox/PC Owners but otherwise wouldn't be available to PS3 owners. 
More details about this will be released later.  

The wording here is a little iffy (english is not my native language, so it may be me). For the sounds of it, it seems that PS3 gets the comic and a new armor/weapon pack(wich may or may not be free) exclusively? It's not so bad if it's just that.
I'm not really going to complain, this stuff is becoming standard practice in the industry anyway. (and I happen to own a PS3 so...).

[Leyviur]

Although I already own Mass Effect 2, I also own a PS3 and was going to buy it because I am just that big of a fan. Then there was word of exclusive content and I was turned off from buying it.



Now that the issue is clarified however, I'll definitely be buying the PS3 version as a show of my support.

[lupe fiasco]

Yes!!! As a PS3 owner this is a day one buy for me.

I am definitely looking forward to this.



As far as exclusivity goes, I hate it. It should be evens stevens across the board.

[Annihilator27]

lupe fiasco wrote...

Yes!!! As a PS3 owner this is a day one buy for me.
I am definitely looking forward to this.

As far as exclusivity goes, I hate it. It should be evens stevens across the board.

Welcome aboard.

[digoutyoursoul]

personally delighted for some my friends who only have PS3, dont have the time for owning more than one console or PC gaming and can now enter the mass effect series they were impressed with when watching briefly some of my playthroughs. the internet reaction has been amusing on some gaming forums, the same idiots bashing this series are now treating it as a gift from god but beforehand they refused to look at it twice simply because of the console it was on , bizarre logic.

as for dlc, i hope the formats that provided the avenue for success of this franchise dont get ripped off just to entice more people on board. i think in some cases if people really wanted to step into mass effect they would of done by now and i'll be honest part of me would dislike it having invested into the series with all the dlc and main games to see certain people who could easily of played the series earlier get exclusive content especially with the obvious EA/Sony love in of late.

the interactive comic sounds brilliant and i cant wait to see it

[tallon1982]

I'm considering getting the game for PS3 just to see how it plays. I own the PC version and love it but I'm very curious to see the transition to the PS3. I get why bundling the current DLCs is being done. Most games on the PS3 are pretty much 60-70 dollars a piece. It's far from cheap compared to the other console systems and not to mention the PC. Giving PS3 owners the DLCs is giving them a bone so to speak and I don't mind it. Hell the interactive comic is a brilliant idea to help give the PS3 people a way to see ME1. This feature would have been awesome to see on the 360 and PC but we can have everything considering we have access to ME1 on those 'systems.' Perhaps at a later date we might get access to this awesome comic sans buying the PS3 for those that don't have it already



Is there any idea as to when we'll get some more info on the PS3 release as well as upcoming DLCs? A hint? Anything? lol

[Gibb_Shepard]

Jesse Houston wrote...


 This interactive comic's initial release will be exclusive to PS3 owners 

Awesome, this gives me a feeling it will only be timed exclusivity

There will also be some DLC Bundles, such as the Aegis Pack as well as exclusive both Free and Paid DLC for all PlayStation 3 owners such as the Recon Operations Pack.   

I couldn't care less if PS3 gets a couple pieces of exclusive armour. All of my worries of the PS3 ME2 release have been put to rest (for now......). Thanks Jesse.

[rogershoe]

Leyviur wrote...

Although I already own Mass Effect 2, I also own a PS3 and was going to buy it because I am just that big of a fan. Then there was word of exclusive content and I was turned off from buying it.

Now that the issue is clarified however, I'll definitely be buying the PS3 version as a show of my support.

That doesn't make much sense to me. Only reason I'd buy the PS3 version is if there were exclusive content. Like a remake of ME1 with ME2 assets and gameplay.

Also, many of the ME1 choices were relegated to nothing in ME2. This is probably due to the fact that Bioware didn't really set the flags correctly and the fact that many of the side missions from ME1 were lame. Not to mention the fact that Bioware planned the PS3 version while developing for the PC and 360. ME2 choices are probably going to be the only ones that really matter for ME3 and it is fine with me.

Modifié par rogershoe, 07 novembre 2010 - 01:05 .

[Torhagen]

Pacifien wrote...

charmingcharlie wrote...
In short all Mass Effect 2 customers should be treated to the same content be it on the PC, PS3 or 360.

Problem is that the PS3 customers have already been treated differently. They had to wait a year for the release of ME2. They won't be able to play ME1. BioWare cannot go back in time and change this, they have to work with events as they have unfolded.

Also, not that I know anything about what deal BioWare made with Sony, but I speculate exclusive content was part of the deal. It may have been deemed a small price to play if the exclusive content didn't create a large disparity in the three versions of the game, which I really don't think the interactive comic does. Not only that, but the BioWare team had to get innovative with their port to PS3 because they knew ME1 wasn't an option, unlike it is for 360/PC players. The interactive comic allows for people who hadn't played the game to make some key choices to import into their ME2 game. An innovation that came too late for the original release of ME2, but could find its way into ME3 territory for all platforms. Result? No lame default ME3 story.

As for the PS3 owners getting the DLC packaged, I already went over this in the old thread that Jesse Houston locked, but newer versions of games always get reduced price tags and extra content as the months go by. What the PS3 owners are essentially getting is an ultimate version of ME2 with DLC that has been created up until that point. Lame that the 360/PC users don't get a similar version? Not really. For the price the game is going on those two platforms now, once you purchase all the DLC separately, the end price is likely still cheaper than what the PS3 players have to play. Because of that, I don't see why BioWare needs to make an equivalent ulimate version for the 360/PC at this time because it will be incomplete: not all the DLC that the developers intend to release with ME2 has been released yet.

for people like you this is a sufficient answer :

there it is again "as well as exclusive both Free and Paid DLC for all PlayStation 3"

I haven't bought any game from Ubisoft since the launched their 24/online-DRM and i will treat Bioware the exact same if that Exclusive BS is not dropped that would mean no SWTOR for me Bioware
needs People for their MMO they can't afford to alienate customers
I as well as others i read about in different threads will boycott Bioware
in the Future if that would be exclusive Content for the "Newcomer" i
hope they don't.

P.S thanks to Jesse Houston and maybe bioware should check more closely who gets to be a moderator on here

Modifié par Torhagen, 07 novembre 2010 - 01:12 .

[davidshooter]

cachx wrote...

Jesse Houston wrote...
There will also be some DLC Bundles, such as the Aegis Pack as well as exclusive both Free and Paid DLC for all PlayStation 3 owners such as the Recon Operations Pack.   
Edit: While I can't go into details all of this content is or was available to Xbox/PC Owners but otherwise wouldn't be available to PS3 owners. 
More details about this will be released later.  

The wording here is a little iffy (english is not my native language, so it may be me). For the sounds of it, it seems that PS3 gets the comic and a new armor/weapon pack(wich may or may not be free) exclusively? It's not so bad if it's just that.
I'm not really going to complain, this stuff is becoming standard practice in the industry anyway. (and I happen to own a PS3 so...).

I don't really care either as I own both too,  but as a native English speaker I can reassure you that your observation is correct.  Both of those statements as written disqualify each other.  Perhaps the edit was meant to supercede the original or perhaps some qualifiers are needed but both statements as written cannot be true at the same time. 

Just sayin'

[Pepper4]

this just sucks.

exclusive content...



I don't understand why everyone are suddenly relaxed. They said in a very clear way that there is going to be ps3 only content.

[rogershoe]

Torhagen wrote...

Pacifien wrote...

charmingcharlie wrote...
In short all Mass Effect 2 customers should be treated to the same content be it on the PC, PS3 or 360.

Problem is that the PS3 customers have already been treated differently. They had to wait a year for the release of ME2. They won't be able to play ME1. BioWare cannot go back in time and change this, they have to work with events as they have unfolded.

Also, not that I know anything about what deal BioWare made with Sony, but I speculate exclusive content was part of the deal. It may have been deemed a small price to play if the exclusive content didn't create a large disparity in the three versions of the game, which I really don't think the interactive comic does. Not only that, but the BioWare team had to get innovative with their port to PS3 because they knew ME1 wasn't an option, unlike it is for 360/PC players. The interactive comic allows for people who hadn't played the game to make some key choices to import into their ME2 game. An innovation that came too late for the original release of ME2, but could find its way into ME3 territory for all platforms. Result? No lame default ME3 story.

As for the PS3 owners getting the DLC packaged, I already went over this in the old thread that Jesse Houston locked, but newer versions of games always get reduced price tags and extra content as the months go by. What the PS3 owners are essentially getting is an ultimate version of ME2 with DLC that has been created up until that point. Lame that the 360/PC users don't get a similar version? Not really. For the price the game is going on those two platforms now, once you purchase all the DLC separately, the end price is likely still cheaper than what the PS3 players have to play. Because of that, I don't see why BioWare needs to make an equivalent ulimate version for the 360/PC at this time because it will be incomplete: not all the DLC that the developers intend to release with ME2 has been released yet.

for people like you this is a sufficient answer :

there it is again "as well as exclusive both Free and Paid DLC for all PlayStation 3"

I haven't bought any game from Ubisoft since the launched their 24/online-DRM and i will treat Bioware the exact same if that
Exclusive BS is not dropped that would mean no SWTOR for me Bioware
needs People for their MMO they can't afford to alienate customers
I
as well as others i read about in different threads will boycott Bioware
in the Future if that would be exclusive Content for the "Newcomer" i
hope they don't.

P.S thanks to Jesse Houston and maybe bioware should check more closely who gets to be a moderator on here

I'm sorry, but the Moderator is right and spoke the truth. You, on the other hand, are acting like a complete fanboy right here. Boycott Bioware? So should PS3 owners boycott Bioware for giving PC and 360 owners exclusive content in Mass Effect 1?

Modifié par rogershoe, 07 novembre 2010 - 01:09 .

[AtreiNero]

Pacifien wrote...

...Also, not that I know anything about what deal BioWare made with Sony, but I speculate exclusive content was part of the deal. It may have been deemed a small price to play if the exclusive content didn't create a large disparity in the three versions of the game, which I really don't think the interactive comic does...The interactive comic allows for people who hadn't played the game to make some key choices to import into their ME2 game....

If exclusive content is demanded by Sony for PS3 games, then maybe there shouldn't be a PS3 port in my opinion. I'm fine with the interactive comic given the circumstances, but any exclusive content, no. Even if it just a weapon pack. Any content that is released for the PS3 should also be released for the loyal fans playing the 360 and PC versions. Having any exclusive content just makes more discontinuity between the games because you have to essentially buy two or three versions to play the whole thing.

Again the comic is fine, given the circumstances of what is happening here, but any exclusive mission/weapon/anything packs should not be part of a deal to release a PS3 port. Content should be released across the board and not give one group access to a great mission/weapon/whatever pack, while the others say "Why can't we have that?" "Oh it was because in order to release the game on that console, we needed to have exclusive content for that port." That's not fair and again if that is what Sony requires, then all BioWare will end up doing is alienating 360 and PC fans and maybe lose out on them buying ME3 because they know that the PS3 version gets exclusive content. We want it all, not just bits and pieces and just because someone is late to the party, doesn't mean that they should get treated any differently than those who have been loyal thus far.
Again I’m fine with the comic given the circumstances, but I’m not fine with the PS3 version getting exclusive anything else just because BioWare needed exclusive PS3 content. If that is what Sony requires to publish on their console, then maybe ME2 and ME3 shouldn’t be released to the PS3. Because all that will happen is that BioWare will alienate all of ME’s loyal PC and 360 fans. Now again how does exclusive content help anyone? Bottom line, it doesn’t! All it ends up doing it alienating fans because they can’t get everything and someone else can. All or nothing with content for ME2 and ME3. NO EXCLUSIVE CONTENT.

[rogershoe]

mrsph wrote...

Oh, god. Everytime something like this happens this forum goes into full-on "IMMA BOYCOTT U, BIOWARE!" mode. This is like the fourth time.

When ME3 is announced for PC, PS3, and 360, there will probably be another wave of this.

AtreiNero wrote...
If that is what Sony requires to publish on
their console, then maybe ME2 and ME3 shouldn’t be released to the PS3.
Because all that will happen is that BioWare will alienate all of ME’s
loyal PC and 360 fans. Now again how does exclusive content help anyone?
Bottom line, it doesn’t! All it ends up doing it alienating fans
because they can’t get everything and someone else can. All or nothing
with content for ME2 and ME3. NO EXCLUSIVE CONTENT.

Er, yeah. Not releasing a game to a potential 40 million because there is a risk of alienating a few people? I don't give a rat's ass if the PS3 version gets a weapon pack or armor pack. And I'm sure the majority of people who bought ME2 don't either.

Modifié par rogershoe, 07 novembre 2010 - 01:16 .

[mustardshake57]

When it comes down to it who really cares? I've played through ME1 and ME2 about 6 times each over the past couple of years. Extra content is extra incentive for PS3 guys to buy a game thats been out for almost a year. All i want is more kick ass DLC and where's more free cerburus DLC

[rogershoe]

mustardshake57 wrote...

When it comes down to it who really cares? I've played through ME1 and ME2 about 6 times each over the past couple of years. Extra content is extra incentive for PS3 guys to buy a game thats been out for almost a year. All i want is more kick ass DLC and where's more free cerburus DLC

Cerberus DLC has completely disappeared and I don't expect it to come back. Shame really.

[Gibb_Shepard]

rogershoe wrote...

mrsph wrote...

Oh, god. Everytime something like this happens this forum goes into full-on "IMMA BOYCOTT U, BIOWARE!" mode. This is like the fourth time.

When ME3 is announced for PC, PS3, and 360, there will probably be another wave of this.

...................Why? Pretty sure people will be in "I LUV U BIOWARE" mode when ME3 is announced.

[AtreiNero]

rogershoe wrote...

Er, yeah. Not releasing a game to a potential 40 million because there is a risk of alienating a few people? I don't give a rat's ass if the PS3 version gets a weapon pack or armor pack. And I'm sure the majority of people who bought ME2 don't either.

And again how it is fair that they get access to a weapon and armor that I can't on the 360 or PC, because it isn't. PS3 people shouldn't get access to content that won't be avaliable on the 360 or PC because it alters their experiense, maybe for better or worse, but not mine. If content is to be released, then it should be across all platforms. I use the ME Wiki a lot and I see all the great weapons, and some not so much but that's my personal opinion. And if I see a weapon that is looks good, and is backed up by things like YouTube vidoes, then I see that it's only avaliable on the PS3, that's NOT fair! Why should they get something just for them, and I can't? DLC content like missions, weapons, and armor should not be console exclusive and should be released to all platforms that have the game.

That being said, pre-order items are another matter entirely. Even then most of the ME2 pre-order items have been released already with the exception of the Blackstorm, Terminus Armor, and the Collectors' Weapon and Armor, but the last one I know a dev said that would remain exclusive to the Collectors' Edition.

[comicfan22]

Are people really gonna start going nuts AGAIN? Bioware clarified things and there is still "I wanna boycott" because there may/may not be something like an initially exclusive gun or armor pack for PS3 owners? Get a grip.



A gun isn't going to change the story and it sounds like Bioware isn't even finished w ME2 yet so who is to say that PC/360 owners wont get the gun through Cerberus Network later on anyways?

[Hyper_gateway]

Thanks for the very needed clarification.



For those PS3 newcomer, can't wait for you to join the party!

[HBC Dresden]

Even though this has already been said, don't mind the PS3 Comic, but I hope they don't get exclusive DLC packs, even if it is just weapons (on the flip side, I hope they have access to 360 pre-order stuff but also that they don't get exclusive pre-order items). The edit about the "Recon Operations Pack" and exclusivity is confusing. On one hand, it would be stupid business-wise (and Bioware doesn't want a disparity), because 360/PC players could pay for it too, tripling profits. On the other hand... Sony and business deals (case in point, MS and Sony twisting Bioware's back on what to include on Title Updates, allowing so many Awakening bugs to exist).