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[Lord Gremlin]

10 Steps Back wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...

Also the only thing the PS3 can get that's exclusive that would make me angry is a helmet toggle. If they have that and I can't get it blood will be split.

And to think that was the first thing I asked for when they officially announced the PS3 version

If they don't have helmet toggle then what were they doing anyway?

[10 Steps Back]

Lord Gremlin wrote...

10 Steps Back wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...

Also the only thing the PS3 can get that's exclusive that would make me angry is a helmet toggle. If they have that and I can't get it blood will be split.

And to think that was the first thing I asked for when they officially announced the PS3 version

If they don't have helmet toggle then what were they doing anyway?

I'd give up the comic for a DLC Helmet toggle, and Jacob having 70's adult entertainment music playing in the background and Dreadlocks.

[Lord Gremlin]

10 Steps Back wrote...

Lord Gremlin wrote...

10 Steps Back wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...

Also the only thing the PS3 can get that's exclusive that would make me angry is a helmet toggle. If they have that and I can't get it blood will be split.

And to think that was the first thing I asked for when they officially announced the PS3 version

If they don't have helmet toggle then what were they doing anyway?

I'd give up the comic for a DLC Helmet toggle, and Jacob having 70's adult entertainment music playing in the background and Dreadlocks.

TBH I'd settle for a gun that shoots rabbits as exclusive content. But rabbits must squeal in mid-air and deal AOE damage with DOT effect.

[Ryzaki]

10 Steps Back wrote...

Lord Gremlin wrote...

10 Steps Back wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...

Also the only thing the PS3 can get that's exclusive that would make me angry is a helmet toggle. If they have that and I can't get it blood will be split.

And to think that was the first thing I asked for when they officially announced the PS3 version

If they don't have helmet toggle then what were they doing anyway?

I'd give up the comic for a DLC Helmet toggle, and Jacob having 70's adult entertainment music playing in the background and Dreadlocks.

I'd give up the comic and DLC for a helmet toggle too.

[charmingcharlie]

Lord Gremlin wrote...

You can't make up for the absence of ME1 (although everybody interested already played it on PC). That is not the point. The point is making this - PS3 - version of ME2 worth buying over or in addition to one of other two versions.
By holding content off PC/360 (even temporally if you do it smart), as you say, you make people buy/prefer PS3 version which right now yields more profit.

No the point of releasing Mass Effect 2 on the PS3 is to encourage people that have NEVER played Mass Effect 2 to buy the game.  They want to ADD to their player base not canabalise it.  By adding exclusive content it does not give people that have never played the game any extra incentive to play the game.  The incentive is to play the game on the PS3 because they have never played the game.

The only time "exclusive" content is of any use is when a game is released at the same time on both platforms and they use exclusive content to get people to buy a certain console version over another console version or to encourage those that already have the game on the 360 to rebuy the game on the PS3 (ie canabalising their sales).

Exclusive content now on a "year old" game will not get more people that have never played Mass Effect playing Mass Effect.  All exclusive content does is serve to annoy your existing fanbase

Modifié par charmingcharlie, 14 novembre 2010 - 08:11 .

[Talogrungi]

Ryzaki wrote...

Talogrungi wrote...

durasteel wrote...

Dave of Canada wrote...

So... reading the past few pages, PS3 users should get nothing special about them and PC / 360 should still be the superior platform?

Until and unless the first game is ported over to the Play Station, the PC and 360 will remain in a superior position with regard to the Mass Effect franchise.  No comic is going to change that.

Speaking as someone who loved ME2, but was very underwhelmed by the replayability of ME1 .. I'd totally love the idea of being able to make an importable ME1 save game without the necessity of curbstomping my way through the whole first game again.

*points to save game editor*

Yeah that's already there.

Does it exist on consoles?

[Lard]

charmingcharlie wrote...

Lord Gremlin wrote...

You can't make up for the absence of ME1 (although everybody interested already played it on PC). That is not the point. The point is making this - PS3 - version of ME2 worth buying over or in addition to one of other two versions.
By holding content off PC/360 (even temporally if you do it smart), as you say, you make people buy/prefer PS3 version which right now yields more profit.

No the point of releasing Mass Effect 2 on the PS3 is to encourage people that have NEVER played Mass Effect 2 to buy the game.  They want to ADD to their player base not canabalise it.  By adding exclusive content it does not give people that have never played the game any extra incentive to play the game.  The incentive is to play the game on the PS3 because they have never played the game.

And excluding people from the first game isn't going to give any incentive to those people.

[10 Steps Back]

Ryzaki wrote...

10 Steps Back wrote...

Lord Gremlin wrote...

10 Steps Back wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...

Also the only thing the PS3 can get that's exclusive that would make me angry is a helmet toggle. If they have that and I can't get it blood will be split.

And to think that was the first thing I asked for when they officially announced the PS3 version

If they don't have helmet toggle then what were they doing anyway?

I'd give up the comic for a DLC Helmet toggle, and Jacob having 70's adult entertainment music playing in the background and Dreadlocks.

I'd give up the comic and DLC for a helmet toggle too.

Great:happy:

now we ait for Bioware to crush our dreams and do nothing about this injustice:crying:

[charmingcharlie]

Lard wrote...

And excluding people from the first game isn't going to give any incentive to those people.

As it has already been said 200 times, that cannot be helped it is done and dusted.  Now I would have thought anyone actually interested in playing Mass Effect 1 would have given up the ghost and either bought a 360 or upgraded their PC to play the game.

You are hankering after a THREE YEAR old game, if you haven't given in and played Mass Effect 1 by now then you aren't ever going too.  Now there will be a great many PS3 owners that will be interested in Mass Effect 2 and they are being given an opportunity to play the game on their preferred platform, that is the incentive.

Exclusive content is not going to encourage the vast majority to buy the PS3 version.  They are not going to go "oh goody we get content that PC/360 owners don't get so I will buy the game now".  They will buy the game because it is ON THE PS3 and they want to play it  on the PS3.  The only minority that would buy a game based on the fact that PC/360 users lose out on content are beyond childish.

[Lord Gremlin]

charmingcharlie wrote...

Lord Gremlin wrote...

You can't make up for the absence of ME1 (although everybody interested already played it on PC). That is not the point. The point is making this - PS3 - version of ME2 worth buying over or in addition to one of other two versions.
By holding content off PC/360 (even temporally if you do it smart), as you say, you make people buy/prefer PS3 version which right now yields more profit.

No the point of releasing Mass Effect 2 on the PS3 is to encourage people that have NEVER played Mass Effect 2 to buy the game.  They want to ADD to their player base not canabalise it.  By adding exclusive content it does not give people that have never played the game any extra incentive to play the game.  The incentive is to play the game on the PS3 because they have never played the game.

The only time "exclusive" content is of any use is when a game is released at the same time on both platforms and they use exclusive content to get people to buy a certain console version over another console version or to encourage those that already have the game on the 360 to rebuy the game on the PS3 (ie canabalising their sales).

Exclusive content now on a "year old" game will not get more people that have never played Mass Effect playing Mass Effect.  All exclusive content does is serve to annoy your existing fanbase

Well, you have a point here. I'm no marketologist  after all. Actually the sheer fact that one of 2 or 3 good (commonly considered good) games that are not available on PS3 but available on 360 is coming on PS3 may generate some sales. But this remains to be seen. After all we don't know how many people who prefer to use PS3 already have the game on PC or 360.

[Ryzaki]

Talogrungi wrote...

Does it exist on consoles?

Here

Slightly more complicated than on PC but you should be able to ask questions and the like if needed.

Proof it can be done if you end up frustrated here.

Modifié par Ryzaki, 14 novembre 2010 - 08:26 .

[10 Steps Back]

Hmm... they should scrap whatever design for weapon or armor exclusive to the PS3 and design in with a Resistance theme. I want Shep to have one those glowing thingies at the back of the chimera.

[Lord Gremlin]

10 Steps Back wrote...

Hmm... they should scrap whatever design for weapon or armor exclusive to the PS3 and design in with a Resistance theme. I want Shep to have one those glowing thingies at the back of the chimera.

Better yet, create a Chimera companion.

[Dust_King]

 Wow this agreement is just getting silly.

First of all I'd like to say I own a ps3, not a 360, and a crappy computer. I will be playing the mass effect series for the first time when ME2 is released on ps3 in two months.

I find the comic is an intelligent solution to the problem of the publishing rights of ME1 being owned (or part owned) by microsoft. I would prefer being able to play ME1 but that seems like it would be more difficult to pull off for bioware.

As a comic fan I look forward to reading a comic as a lead in to a game, the chance to choose the comics path looks like it will make it even more enjoyable.

So I'm looking forward to this release.

What I don't understand is why people are telling me I'm being insulted, that the fact someone I've never met is reading the same comic as me is a grave insult to my honour just because they already know what happens in it. 
Or that because the comic is compensation for some imagined slight only we have the right to read it. Sorry I don't see at all how that's fair, we miss out on a game so now they must suffer with us? That doesn't make things better for anyone.

Comics (and other books) should be available to as many people as possible. The only thing I find insulting in this thread is that some people are demanding others (who they have never met) not be allowed the chance to read a story on the basis they know how it ends. I'm sorry but I find that both absurd and petty. 

This whole argument seems based of the idea that since I'm suffering then I must want others to suffer with me. I do not care in the slightest what someone with a 360 who I've never met reads.

And yet people in this thread seem to think this is on the level of a direct personal insult, could someone explain why?

[Ryzaki]

Question: Do you think the forced recruitment order will be on the PS3 version or not? Because supposedly the only reason it was like that was because of the Xbox. We were supposed to be able to recruit certain characters in any order.

[rinoe]

Ryzaki wrote...

Question: Do you think the forced recruitment order will be on the PS3 version or not? Because supposedly the only reason it was like that was because of the Xbox. We were supposed to be able to recruit certain characters in any order.

Forced recruitment order? Bcs of Xbox? Can you explain what do you mean?

[Ryzaki]

rinoe wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...

Question: Do you think the forced recruitment order will be on the PS3 version or not? Because supposedly the only reason it was like that was because of the Xbox. We were supposed to be able to recruit certain characters in any order.

Forced recruitment order? Bcs of Xbox? Can you explain what do you mean?

The game was on to discs. Originally (the data is still on the disc) there was supposed to be a free for all. (TIM gives you dossiers at the beginning of the game and you go for it) there's dialogue of X character on Y recruitment mission (In particular Samara/Thane on Garrus' recruitment mission) when in the actual game there's no way for them to be there due to the locked map. I believe Legion had dialogue on Horizon as well. Edit: Correction no he didn't. Tali did.  (Well almost all characters have dialoge for missions they couldn't have been on) [with the exception of course of their own loyalty missions and Garrus/Mordin/Jack/Miranda/Jacob/Kasumi/Zaeed/Grunt due to the fact that they can be gotten first if you want to. Though Tali/Samara/Legion/Thane have plenty of dialogue when its not possible for them to be recruited at the time.

This is believed to be because some people didn't want to switch discs mid game and the Xbox didn't have a force install. Thus the need for them to force it into a certain order.

Modifié par Ryzaki, 14 novembre 2010 - 10:39 .

[rinoe]

Oh, I didn't know. Thanks:)

Still, I have xbox and I didn't even realize that I can't install a game:)) - that gives a picture how often I use it:)). I prefer to play PC if I have a choice, and with xobx I mostly have:)))

With PS3 is a different story. It is my mediacenter in the house:) And the games on PS3 are mostly on PS3. So I happy I could buy onother copy of ME2:)) Yes I'm a freak:))



To the topic - I don't think thay will change the storyline for PS3. I'm afraid they will change nothing, but I have hope that they at least use all advances of dualshock. I wonder if it will be possible to use keyboard and mouse for controls. That will be something:)))

[durasteel]

Ryzaki wrote...

This is believed to be because some people didn't want to switch discs mid game and the Xbox didn't have a force install. Thus the need for them to force it into a certain order.

If that's true, it's bloody aweful.  That is really the most frustrating and annoying thing to me as a PC gamer - it seems like often a game's controls are dumbed down to accomodate the realities of a controller, or (as seems to be the case here) the game is hacked apart to accomodate the limitations of a console's hard drive limitations and DRM bull crap.

I'm all in favor of releasing games and other content (you know, like comics and stuff) on all platforms, but it is a damn shame when one platform's limitations are allowed to drag the universal experience down a notch.

[Ryzaki]

mrsph wrote...

Actually, Legion has no dialog on Horizon at all.

He doesn't? Odd. I could've sworn he said somethig when I took him with me...though it might've just been "Shepard-Commander" after the Husk convo.

[Ryzaki]

mrsph wrote...

Actually, Legion has no dialog on Horizon at all.

A bit strange considering he has dialogue everywhere else.

[rinoe]

I don't mind to share, but I must agree with you. It is frustrated when one platform is a limit to all others.

The game could be better but one console is too weak... wow. I don't want that.

ME1 was much better on PC. ME2 was the same on PC and on Xbox and it was not a favor for PC players. And that stupid 'end mission raport' - I felt like played on console when I palyed on PC.

PC do not get proper controls, even if it is possible, bcs xbox can't... And it is not all...



SO this is something not good at all.

[Ryzaki]

rinoe wrote...

I don't mind to share, but I must agree with you. It is frustrated when one platform is a limit to all others.
The game could be better but one console is too weak... wow. I don't want that.
ME1 was much better on PC. ME2 was the same on PC and on Xbox and it was not a favor for PC players. And that stupid 'end mission raport' - I felt like played on console when I palyed on PC.
PC do not get proper controls, even if it is possible, bcs xbox can't... And it is not all...

SO this is something not good at all.

I hated that thing with a passion. They might as well had some victory music and gave you a score.